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"You've been wanting" "You've been having"

submitted by Kozel to whatever 2 weeksMay 1, 2024 16:49:59 ago (+3/-1)     (whatever)

So, you've been wanting

NO. I HAVE NOT BEEN WANTING.

I WANT. OR I HAVE WANTED.

Why the fuck are people talking like this?


So, you've been having xyz?

NO.

"So you have xyz?"

You've been trying?

"You've tried!"

This type of speaking just comes off as mega soy to me. Even if women do it. Maybe this is some american beat around the bush bullshit that clashes with my upbringing, kind of like the dance of asking strangers you don't know how they're doing and expecting the answer of good while simultaneously giving no shit about how they're doing. But I do know that I don't like it. It is indirect and wishy washy.

Is there a name for this type of soyspeak? Does this annoy anyone else or am I just being weird?


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[ - ] Sector2 2 points 2 weeksMay 1, 2024 17:23:54 ago (+2/-0)

I WANT. OR I HAVE WANTED.

When it's both, 'you wanted in the past and are still wanting', I believe you've been wanting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_tense

Tenses are not my area of expertise though. I have a sense of what sounds right, but forget about explaining how they work. That link (sorry) does mention they work differently in different countries, so maybe that's what's going on.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 2 points 2 weeksMay 1, 2024 17:10:46 ago (+2/-0)

Looks like a combo of niggerism and the feminine way of speaking. Lots of weasel words peppered with wrongly-placed words and/or really bad grammar. The given sentences here are mild examples of it.

[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 2 weeksMay 1, 2024 17:04:14 ago (+1/-0)

First I've heard of this.

[ - ] The_Reunto 0 points 2 weeksMay 1, 2024 23:49:16 ago (+0/-0)

"Your argument is wanting."

There are grammatic tenses that aren't easily captured in English. "I wanted" indicates past tense but not necessarily present or continuing. "I want" indicates present but not necessarily past. "I have been wanting [to xyz]..." Indicates past but appears like an attempt to imply present/continuing. But "I have been wanting" by itself actually describes the state of wantingness. Similar to willingness. "I have been willing" makes sense. So does "I have been wanting." in that sense.

Great conversation piece, I don't feel fully settled by how I feel about the phrase "I have been wanting to xyz"

[ - ] Kozel [op] 0 points 2 weeksMay 2, 2024 01:01:15 ago (+0/-0)

I want to xyz. I have not been wanting. I want it now, that's why I'm here.

[ - ] McNasty 0 points 2 weeksMay 1, 2024 17:52:44 ago (+1/-1)

"you've been" suggests that xyz is something that's been happening.

How else would you address something that's happened in the past?

Sure, if you're talking about waiting for a red light to change you might say you "want" it to change to green. If we're talking about something like jews, how is it not acceptable to say that "I've been wanting them to get what they deserve?"

[ - ] TomMacdonald 0 points 2 weeksMay 1, 2024 17:02:14 ago (+0/-0)

Take off you hoser