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This is nice

submitted by Kozel to Linux 1 weekApr 26, 2024 19:11:16 ago (+23/-1)     (Linux)

I've run into some problems with linux, and I either figured out how to fix them myself and grew my knowledge or I talked on forums and was offered working solutions. I've encountered some bugs, and after reporting said bugs, the developers actually fixed them really fast, and other users offered workarounds. It is quite nice.

Lets contrast that to my time on Windows. I filed bugs, or I upvoted bugs, and they sit unfixed for years. I run into trouble and I ask for advice and I'm told to sfc /scannow by copy and paste indian faggots. In a corporate environment, I filed bugs and got dicked around level1/2 support forever by nigger pajeet faggots. And eventually I find my own workarounds or alternative methods to get the thing done. These motherfuckers are getting thousands of dollars a month and can't be bothered to resolve my issues but some random nerd will do it for free on a linux forum. In a number of instances, I'm proud to have been that nerd for other people.

Anyway I'm quite pleased with my Artix install. I've been running it for 12 months now. This was me 12 months ago. https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=64507c6eac032


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[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 4 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 21:46:41 ago (+4/-0)

Linux desktops are very usable. There's no good reason to put up with Windows.

[ - ] Kozel [op] 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 21:54:15 ago (+1/-1)

There is one reason I know. People who work in graphic design need professional graphic design apps. Gimp/Krita aren't sufficient. I get by using Lunacy. But a graphic design professional would need more.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 23:23:41 ago (+0/-0)

oh wow in that case shut it down

[ - ] Dingo 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 09:44:01 ago (+0/-0)

People who work in graphic design ...

Good thing Linux doesn't cater to faggots. Maybe that's why it's so good?

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 4 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:41:17 ago (+4/-0)

You are trying to suck 100 cocks at the same time. You are trying to play on hard mode when you've never even sucked a single cock ever.

Lol, fucking MasterJoo. you asshole.

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 11:28:50 ago (+1/-0)*

My main os has been arch for... 10 years, give or take. Have been "that" linux nerd, until i didn't give a shit talking about linux anymore.
If you want to get stuff done, it's all terminals all the way down.
Long time ago i was stupid enough to try other people to use linux. I mean, how stupid can some person be? Most people just want goyslop with jewish mind goyslop and here comes some fucking nerd talking about using a computer in some better ways. Jesus, Christ. Fuck other people. (Unless they are children. They do not know better.)

[ - ] Dingo 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 17:45:21 ago (+0/-0)

If you want to get stuff done, it's all terminals all the way down.

I'm totally finding this myself. Are you familiar with cat-v (the website, not the cable)? I've very much realized the importants of the "suckless" movement for example and becoming aware of the specific reason I'm using the computer for.

Most people just want goyslop with jewish mind goyslop

Ubuntu on gnome or kde.

I sense you've evolved from that. What is your opinion of this distribution: http://sabo.xyz/

Or, if not familiar, what is your opinion of the LFS type systems with static linking (not talking gentoo, that one isn't anything like LFS anymore but was great in the mid 2000s). I now no longer use status bars, or even minimize windows ... or for that matter turn off all window decorations (close, maximize, move are all have keyboard shortcuts).

[ - ] Dingo 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 09:42:56 ago (+0/-0)

I was running Artix for a while. If I didn't have the urge to "rice" my desktop from a bare system I'd have still been running it, or perhaps Obarun or Joborun (Obarun is more bare Arch but with the 66 init (based on s6). Anyway, very similar systems. The arch ecosystem is nice and the docs are fantastic (except for the systemd shit bits, which is why one would use Artix or Obarun).

I was trying out the tiling WMs a bit and even gave the DWM/ST/DMENU (suckless) thing a try. Really tight system! Now, I've found Herbstluftwm and the memory imprint and cpu usage is actually LOWER than dwm. My system bootx to X with 130mb of ram usage and I run a keyboard centric system. Just love it.

I got the wife and bunch of friends on MX linux now. It's an easy debian system with sysv-init. Soon, MX will have an agnostic init system ISO (check into the Antix one, very slick for a debian system) and it runs runnit, 66-init, sysV and one or two others.

What WM are you using? Have you tried tiling WMs?

[ - ] Kozel [op] 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 15:33:39 ago (+0/-0)

I'm on KWIN/KDE. I tried Polonium for a while, which is an autotile manager for Plasma6, but I found it was more annoying in my workflow than pressing "windows+left or windows+right" to dock windows. And that would extend to all tiling wms.

I usually keep a video playing on one side and perform workflow in another tab. Or I'll have two windows, one on the left one on the right, if I'm in the zone. The workflow is typically referencing one thing and alt tabbing and doing it in another window.

[ - ] Dingo 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 17:54:46 ago (+0/-0)

I have all videos play in a frame that I created for the MPV program. In that tag, I can display them as a grid, or an array, or stacked on top of each other and scroll through them.

I've been curious about the Polonium as honestly, if they had that before I found tiling wms I'd probably be on KDE now. I'm trying to clean my mind and actions up to be super deliberate and found that using the mouse at all fucks my attention up. I don't know if I could go back to KDE or Gnome again, but do have a special place for XFCE (used it off and on for two decades!). But, I figured out how to combine XFCE with a tiling wm and that was fun. Now, I turned all that stuff off and don't even do window decorations or status bars. I don't have a physical mouse on this particular computer.

How is plasma6 overall? I moved all my qt stuff to QT6 now and it seems to work alright but one program seems to crash hard so I have to compile with qt5 to use it so it's theming is a little messed.

Do you do any programming or anything?

[ - ] Kozel [op] 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 18:32:24 ago (+0/-0)

Plasma 6 is ok. Wayland introduces some weirdness. For example, thunderbird won't go into system tray and I can't record screen regions with gpu-screen-recorder in wayland. One could just keep using x11 though. Also QT6-BASE introduced an error with polkit not executing. Downgrade to beta 3 fixes it, or running /usr/lib/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 manually before execution of something that wants auth.

[ - ] Dingo 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 18:51:23 ago (+0/-0)

That's good to know about qt6-base as I've had some strange problems. TBH, I wouldn't use qt at all if I didn't like this web browser so much which requires both qt and python.

I've been very suspicious of the wayland. I recently came across this:

https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2024/03/10/380/

This is a blog of a disribution manager that doesn't like systemd. But, the problem he shows with systemd and wayland is a shadow of the grander encroachment upon "open source" and specifically linux. Like this most recent xz fiasco also discussed on that sysdfree site.

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 23:38:41 ago (+0/-0)

I'm on Nobara because it's gamer-friendly, came with a bunch of stuff already installed to make getting games running easy.

[ - ] Kozel [op] 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 00:17:21 ago (+0/-0)

I'm on artix I typed sudo pacman -S bunch-of-stuff and it works exactly the same

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:25:20 ago (+0/-0)

Funny reading that again.

[ - ] iSnark 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:17:05 ago (+0/-0)

I found Debian 12, and I've been really happy with it. It's a definite keeper, I am getting wrestles, though, to experiment with something else, just can't seem to make a commitment on what should be next....

[ - ] Kozel [op] 1 point 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:25:31 ago (+1/-0)

Moving to Devuan should be ezpz: https://www.devuan.org/

or artix if you want to btw

[ - ] rhy 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 00:47:01 ago (+1/-0)

Just coming in to say devuan is the shit. Best os ever.

[ - ] iSnark 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:29:45 ago (+0/-0)

I actually downloaded about 3 versions of Non-System-D Artix about roughly two years ago.I did have fun with that for a while. I may give Devuan a try, You're pretty happy with Devuan?

[ - ] Kozel [op] 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:31:51 ago (+0/-0)

I enjoy using Artix + KDE + openrc. Devuan didn't work out for me.

[ - ] iSnark 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:34:28 ago (+0/-0)

What was the deal breaker with Devuan?

[ - ] Kozel [op] 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 21:08:33 ago (+0/-0)

It didn't work with my onboard network card. Worked with a usb card. Then I had a resolution problem with amd driver.

I could probably figure it out now. But the AUR is a huge advantage since I don't want to cmake shit.

[ - ] Dingo 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 09:52:43 ago (+1/-0)

Debian

No go on our systems here. No SystemD, elogind allowed. MX does a nice layer over debian that I reccomend to friends. Way less faggotry and still has the decent debian underpinnings. I really appreciate the latest Antix stuff (also debian based, but with runit and other inits) but the main dev is an open marxist and antix stands for "anti-fascits linux". It's a shame.

[ - ] iSnark 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 10:02:32 ago (+1/-0)

I have been curious about MX, I think I'll download that ISO, and also Antix whilst I'm at it! Thanks for the heads-up!.

[ - ] Dingo 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 10:28:57 ago (+1/-0)

You're welcome.

The Antix diversity init iso may be the one to test. They had a lot of buzz about it and seems to be the first that I can tell of it's kind. The latest is on this post:

https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-23-1_init-diversity-edition-sysvinit-runit-s6-rc-s6-66/page/16/#post-135277

What type of interface are you using? KDE, Gnome, XFCE? How do you like the command line?

[ - ] iSnark 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 11:16:11 ago (+0/-0)*

I actually really like the Cinnamon interface, because that's what I started with when I got into Linux, via Mint. From the choices you've given, I'd be inclined to go with KDE or XFCE. Gnome is my least favorite. Lot's of users swear by it, but I'm not a fan. The command line should be an issue for me, not a Command-line ninja by any stretch of the imagination, but I can get around.

I'm curious, have you any experience with Fluxbox?

https://mxlinux.org/
Bottom of the page...


Just found this:

https://iv.datura.network/watch?v=SE8uRUOoLSI

[ - ] Dingo 0 points 1 weekApr 27, 2024 17:36:06 ago (+0/-0)

fluxbox

Yes, I used to really like fluxbox and used it for a few years. I'd say the MX linux version is good for the fluxbox and have safe landing place there, but for fluxbox is a tad "bloaty" (not sure if it's from debian or all the stuff the MX team put into that build).

I definitely recommend playing around with fluxbox, jwm, openbox to see what a minimal experience can be. I'm using a tiling window manager (herbstluftwm) and with that I can force windows to stay in place on the screen and never move. 130mb of ram boot, but machine is full on up to date. I'm trying to never use the mouse and wow, you can pretty much pull it off and augment with a small app called warpd (a keyboard driven app that acts as a mouse using vim-like keys). If you really want an interesting experience, try some of the suckless stuff (dwm, st terminal, etc). Really interesting way to approach computing.

Anyway, great that you're not using that windows crap. We should have a more "based" linux discussion. I'm glad more people are having real conversations on here because the linux discussion at reddit and even on github is getting full on "intersectional" now.

[ - ] iSnark 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 22:16:03 ago (+1/-0)

So I installed MX Linux, and I have to say, it's one of the simplest installs of Linux. It was a breeze. Took me some time to figure out how MX does things, compared to Debian, Mint, Artix etc...

I think I could really like this as a daily driver. Thank You for the recommendation.

[ - ] Dingo 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 22:24:48 ago (+1/-0)*

Good stuff. If you get a chance, there is a software installer app that can jig newer and notable software builds into your system. Let me know if you have an questions about the MX. I was lucky years ago to end up there because they have an ahs (advanced hw support) kernel that had specific drivers that would enable sound on the HDMI port of my specific system. I had a 2gb (including memory) machine with a 32gb hard drive running all video and media on XFCE with a 1080p screen. I treated that system like a desktop and just updated it (now that one has Alpine on it) less than a year ago. The fluxbox should be a little smaller than the XFCE and KDE versions I'm guessing.

Also, here is the youtube channel of the lead dev of MX Linux for any good informational videos.

https://inv.n8pjl.ca/channel/UCFWlej2CSKlXW5uE9opXukQ

Good luck! Touch base sometime on how you like fluxbox. (I'm assuming that's the version you installed)

[ - ] iSnark 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 22:38:13 ago (+1/-0)

I actually did the KDE version earlier, I'm giving serious thought to sacrificing another old HardDrive or two to test both the XFCE & fluxbox versions. I've got to tell you, THIS, is one of the more polished versions of Linux I've installed, it's a good looking Distro.

[ - ] Dingo 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 23:16:43 ago (+1/-0)

Polished

Yeah, they tightened up debian and chiseled out (and in, with replacements) some of the cancer coming in. They are all a bunch of gen-x/boomer white guys doing it.

Great that you're liking it.