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[ - ] Fascinus 7 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 17:38:36 ago (+7/-0)

Call my mama to come help

Because another sheboon eeking and ooking is exactly what this situation required

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 3 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 22:38:48 ago (+3/-0)

They've never progressed past the animalistic grouping stage. They'll call the group in whenever danger appears.

Honestly it does work though. 2-3 pigs can't handle a giant group of monkeys screaming, ooking, and twerking while throwing hands, rocks, and fire.

[ - ] Fascinus 4 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 17:36:01 ago (+4/-0)

Mirrors:

https://pomf2.lain.la/f/qcgg1jc.mp4
https://qu.ax/jZZK.mp4


A young black woman with an attitude for miles was pulled over after an officer was blinded by her high beams. After running the plate, the officer noticed the registration matched with another vehicle. Instead of accepting a citation, the driver insisted on spending the night in jail.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 3 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 18:57:47 ago (+3/-0)

So, it's another nigger with USI (unwarranted self-importance) is pulled over, acts passive aggressively as niggers do (thinking that it will work, although it never does), goes into a spaz, and gets arrested for her niggerosity.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 2 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 21:54:35 ago (+2/-0)

To get pulled over would entail them getting in front of you, releasing a rear facing winch and dragging you over to the side of the road.

Everything else is you willing to stop for them.

You can only get pulled over if you stop.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 3 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 22:42:14 ago (+3/-0)

You can only get pulled over if you stop.


Pit maneuver. They also have a few experimental front-facing weapons able to tackle/tangleup a car.

You can out-run the cop, but you can't out-run the radio.

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:47:06 ago (+1/-0)

EV's and OnStar. Electronic pit maneuvers by remote. It's coming.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 1 point 1 weekApr 27, 2024 05:08:45 ago (+1/-0)

Ayup. Keep an old car/pickup on hand folks.

[ - ] Clubberlang 2 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 21:12:30 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] CHIRO 2 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 20:44:18 ago (+2/-0)

Nobody likes being detained, but you have to know how to handle yourself. Part of the problem with these apes is they think that their feelings are justification for every action. Nigga, I don't want cops close to me either, but this bitch is gonna get close to you if you keep acting like a retard.

[ - ] Prairie 3 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 21:21:07 ago (+3/-0)

They can't grasp that White people really can detain someone, check things out, then release them. Niggers assume cops are niggers (ZOGs are different than niggers).

[ - ] allAheadFull [op] 2 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 00:23:40 ago (+2/-0)

I think she was trying to distance herself, deciding if she was going to fight or flight.

[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 18:20:32 ago (+3/-1)

Dumbass didn't listen to a thing

Must take classes as punishment

Why are they punishing instructors?

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 17:55:43 ago (+2/-0)

The video didn't work for me, but I'm told that the best thing to do is crack the window 1/4", refuse all orders and repeatedly remind the "pig" that you're a "sovereign citizen" so the laws don't apply to you. Bonus if you show him your pistol.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 3 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 21:20:08 ago (+3/-0)

Cracking the window only enough to give them your license and registration isn't against the law, and is advisable. Likewise not following unlawful orders is advisable if it can be done safely.

Their badge doesn't make them any less of stranger, and you would have to be a fool to blindly trust them.

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 1 weekApr 25, 2024 22:58:24 ago (+1/-0)

Nigger, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And, you damn sure don't want to be tryna advance a fucking retarded and bullshit legal theory on the side of the road, with a low IQ, basically retarded, thug with a gun, who thinks he knows the "law" but only actually knows "policy", which allows him to shoot you dead for disobeying what your may think is an "unlawful order". Add to it, that he's trained from day fucking 1 that the words "sovereign citizen" is codespeak for "as soon as I get a chance, Ima murder you, ya fuckin' pig" and getting that behavior on dashcam video will guarantee he gets off scott free when he says "muh self dufense" after murdering you.

Get this shit straight. If you have a license plate and a driver's license, you have all they need to assume that you're engaged in transportation, and probable cause that you're engaged in transportation, along with personal and reasonable belief that you committed a violation of the transportation code, that cop is allowed to turn on his emergency lights and effect an arrest against you. He is then allowed to issue you a ticket, which permits him to release you from arrest, upon your agreement to appear in court, without having to take you "immediately before a magistrate" for a finding of probable cause and the determination of bail/bond.

You can fight it in court if you want and it's worth the lesson. That lesson being that the courts are corrupt as utter fuck and this country is going straight to hell.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 1 point 1 weekApr 26, 2024 02:50:15 ago (+1/-0)

If they're going to shoot you for a window not rolled all the way down, or refusing to identify until they articulate the reason for the stop, then they were going to shoot you regardless of what you did.
The above is less of an argument to do what they say without question, as that will get you killed in such a scenario, and more of an argument to always wear body armor while driving.

For the record, I'm not a "sovereign citizen", I am just legally literate.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 06:40:19 ago (+0/-0)

I am just legally literate.

You're clearly not.

No. They will shoot you for actively resisting an arrest. They don't tend to do that if you don't resist arrest. And, body armor don't make you bulletproof.

When they turn on their emergency lights, you are under arrest, and there is no obligation to tell you why you're under arrest prior to making sure that you're properly detained. Hell, they don't have to tell you what you're being charged with until you're standing in front of a judge on your initial appearance.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 16:09:26 ago (+0/-0)

When they turn on their emergency lights, you are under arrest, and there is no obligation to tell you why you're under arrest prior to making sure that you're properly detained. Hell, they don't have to tell you what you're being charged with until you're standing in front of a judge on your initial appearance.

Yes and no, the above is due to political corruption, and not of the result of the Constitution, or any law that is constitutional.
For an arrest to be lawful, the officer must have reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime has been committed. In order for the arrestee to know that the arrest is lawful, and to obstruct the investigation and or resist the arrest, they have to be told why they have been arrested or detained. Otherwise any obstruction and or resisting arrest charges will be dropped, and the arresting officer is likely to be fired, especially if the incident makes it to the public consciousness via recordings of the incident being spread online.

It's functionally the same issue as using lethal force to defend yourself against an assailant with a rubber gun. You had no way of knowing they weren't actually a threat, as such any attempt to charge the defender with murder/manslaughter etc. will ultimately fail, if it's even attempted at all.

This is why almost all officers will just tell you the reason for detainment after exchanging a few pleasantries. Most of the time, you won't even need to ask.

Most officers aren't going to shoot you for only rolling your window part of the way. Most officers aren't going to shoot you for requesting the reason for the stop before turning over your ID. Most officers won't even shoot your for resisting arrest, they will beat the shit out of you however.
The only officers you have to worry about killing you over minor things are the freak shows, and they were going to find a reason to shoot you regardless. So you're only option for them is body armor and a weapon for when they inevitably try to kill you.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 17:02:14 ago (+0/-0)

For an arrest to be lawful, the officer must have reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime has been committed

Yes. Your license plate and driver's license is evidence of being engaged in transportation and a cop watching you violate a statute in the transportation code provides the office with RAS to the initiate the traffic stop and after conformation that you are engaged in transportation, the officer has probale cause, not simply RAS, that you've broken the law, making the arrest, and your required compliance, lawful.

In order for the arrestee to know that the arrest is lawful, and to obstruct the investigation and or resist the arrest, they have to be told why they have been arrested or detained.

No. The person being arrested is not the person that gets to decide if the RAS is reasonable. You disagreeing with his interpretation of the law is not relevant. If he's wrong, you can file charges on him and sue his municipality. Have you ever gotten a traffic ticket? Were you told that you were under arrest? Most cops don't. They will even lie to you and say that you're "just being detained".

Resisting arrest is only dismissed if the arrest is determined to be unlawful by the court. It has nothing to do with whether or not you're told by the officer why you're being arrested.

Not sure why in the fuck you're comparing a robber with a rubber gun. It's not at all related, unless that robber is wearing a badge, pulled you over in a squad car, and put himself out as a peace office with the authority to detain and arrest you for violations of code.

Cops will usually explain why you're under arrest to urge you to cooperate and to pile on additional charges if you don't, and it's right there on video for the jury to see. With regards to a traffic stop, they are permitted by law to release you from arrest following you signing a promise to appear, so the charges will be on the ticket that you signed, which will also serve as the criminal complaint, unless you object and want an actual complaint filed.

I didn't say the officers would shoot you for not rolling down the window. Don't strawman me! If you refuse to cooperate after being pulled over by not rolling your windows down, they will break your windows. Simple as.

I didn't say the cop will shoot you for requesting to know why you're being arrested. Don't strawman me. I said that he isn't required to tell you, and he isn't. He likely will, because he'd prefer to give you a ticket and send you on your way, but he isn't required to tell you anything until your before a magistrate on your initial hearing. Same goes with you being "read your rights".

I never said most officers will shoot you for resisting arrest. Stop it with these stupid strawman barfing. Some will, and doing it is putting your own life in danger of being shot because a violent situation that's fluid need only lead to a cop FEELING like he is in danger of serious bodily injury or death, and then would be authorized to shoot you. I said that arguing on the side of the road with a low iq thug with a gun, about things he knows nothing about, but thinks he does, is stupid, and will, potentially lead to that low IQ thug murdering you, and getting away with it.

And, body armor is not going to keep you safe from a cop that's decided that he's in danger of serious bodily injury or death on a traffic stop. He will mag dump on you, and you will end up dead or seriously fucking injured. If you had a gun to fight back at all, it will be used against you to justify your homicide.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 18:47:34 ago (+0/-0)

Well, you're definitely a cop, or were one.
No. The person being arrested is not the person that gets to decide if the RAS is reasonable.
Correct, but you still have to be given it. If you ask "why have I been detained" and the officer refuses to answer, from that moment on the detainment has to be treated as unlawful by the courts when operating from your perspective. Which means all resisting arrest charges and obstruction charges have to be dropped. You can't unlawfully resist an unlawful arrest or detainment.

That's why I brought up the rubber gun scenario. Just as you had no way of knowing that your life was not in danger, you also have no way of knowing that the detainment or arrest is lawful. As such you have to assume otherwise.

I didn't say the officers would shoot you for not rolling down the window. Don't strawman me! If you refuse to cooperate after being pulled over by not rolling your windows down, they will break your windows.
I never said don't roll your widows down, I said only roll them down far enough to given them your ID and to be able to talk to them.
Don't accuse someone of strawmanning while doing so yourself. The reason I brought that up is to show reasonability. No normal reasonable cop will try to kill you for having a window rolled partly down, or not identifying until being given a reason for detainment, or even resisting an unlawful arrest through non-lethal means. If at any of these points a cop tries to kill you, capitulating is pointless as they are not doing it "for their safety" they are doing it because they are freak that wants you dead.

Such officers are thankfully rare. Most of the fuckups won't go past battery.

I never said most officers will shoot you for resisting arrest. Stop it with these stupid strawman barfing.
They will shoot you for actively resisting an arrest.
Literally your last comment. Fuck off. Before you say, "I was only talking about some officers" No you never clarified that. Fuck off.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:30:46 ago (+0/-0)*

I'm not a cop. I've sued cops. A dozen of them. A couple of prosecutors and even a judge. I know the code of criminal procedure, the penal code,
and the transportation code, here in Texas, like the back of my hand. Or, at least, did. I'm rusty deez daze. Pleadings accepted to the 5th Circuit in New Orleans. I've learned the lessons of the just-us system.


And again, I never suggested that a cop will kill you for doing this or that or refusing to do this or that. Learn to read. I said that it's fuckin' stupid to argue with low IQ thugs with guns on the side of the road.

Cops think they know the law. They don't. They know policy. They know what they are taught to do in various hypothetical situations.

Cops are taught and trained that any attempt to argue "the law" with them is "sovereign citizen" behavior. They are trained that this behavior is threatening and that the person doing it is potentially unhinged and capable of trying to kill them. Cops are also taught that people who display this type of behavior can be treated with aggressive authoritarianism and their employers (their municipality) will back them up. And, in a sovererign citizen situation, these cops are very capable of killing you and getting away with it. Arguing with cops about the law at a traffic stop is dangerous and stupid.

Roughly 1200 people a year are killed by cops, and 99+% of them were killed resisting arrest. Less than 1% are ever charged with a crime for doing it.

Now, if cops doing bad things are as rare as you suggest, then why the "only roll the window down far enough to give them your ID" position? If most cops are mostly "decent people" why not just treat them like the decent people that they are? Why drive around in body armor, as you suggested? On the off chance that, one day, the extremely rare "bad cop" is gonna pull you over and plug you for no reason? And, if this was the case, won't the suspicious and untrusting behavior aggravate that tendency?

ALL cops are multiple felons. Every. Single. One. Of. Them. None of them give one fuck about what the law says, whether it's right or wrong, just or unjust. They don't even care to know what the law says. They know what they are trained to do and they know police policy, which often stands in direct opposition to the law, based on what they were taught in community College criminal justice classes. They punch a time card and collect benefits and a pension. Priority #1 for them, deez daze, is going home at the end of shift. You living is not even a top 10 consideration for the average cop.

If you ask "why have I been detained" and the officer refuses to answer, from that moment on the detainment has to be treated as unlawful by the courts

Cite one single case where the courts have even remotely suggested any such thing.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 22:38:15 ago (+0/-0)

I'm growing tired of arguing with you. As honestly between your stupidity, and twisting my words while blaming me for doing the same thing you're doing, you would give a cop a run for their money.
So, I'll keep this brief, and then not bother responding to you after, with the exception of sources if you want them.

And again, I never suggested that a cop will kill you for doing this or that or refusing to do this or that. Learn to read. I said that it's fuckin' stupid to argue with low IQ thugs with guns on the side of the road.
You never differentiated between the two. Fuck off.

Cops are taught and trained that any attempt to argue "the law" with them is "sovereign citizen" behavior. They are trained that this behavior is threatening and that the person doing it is potentially unhinged and capable of trying to kill them.
Which would require them to be equally unhinged to blindly believe it. We stray back into the territory of always wearing body armor to be the only viable solution if you actually believe this.

Roughly 1200 people a year are killed by cops, and 99+% of them were killed resisting arrest.
Most of them resisting using lethal force.

Now, if cops doing bad things are as rare as you suggest
I never suggested this. I said the cops that will kill you over minor things are rare.

"only roll the window down far enough to give them your ID" position?
The same reason you don't open your fucking house door to them. Do not give them an inch of invitation, as they will take a mile.

Cite one single case where the courts have even remotely suggested any such thing.
I can give you several jewtube channels with plenty of cases where charges were dropped, and the cops were fired for the exact behavior I just described.
As for the "court cases" itself, it varies from state to state and is defined under statutes pertaining to resisting unlawful arrests.
In all of them that I have seen, the officer has to lack probably cause. The only way to know the officer lacks probably cause is to ask and be refused an answer.

[ - ] BloodyComet 2 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 20:39:43 ago (+2/-0)

I used to love watching sovereign citizen compilations years back... I'll bet departments have come up with policy for dealing with them specifically. I saw one short video recently where the cop realized what he was up against, and immediately said "Okay stay here" and walked off. I think they're told not to talk to the weirdos.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 3 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 22:40:13 ago (+3/-0)

"Okay stay here" and walked off. I think they're told not to talk to the weirdos.

I mean, I guess it worked... right?

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 1 weekApr 26, 2024 20:45:20 ago (+0/-0)

The guys that do the "audits" on video get treated differently than your average "sovereign citizen" that has no idea what he's doing. Cops know the lawfare paperwork involved when they screw up procedure. The very last thing a cop wants is for the city (municipality) attorney to know their name in any context other than arresting officer or witness.

Cops are trained in policy and procedure that is written for them by these attorneys and when they screw up, they expose the municipality to legal recourse, which is usually just lots of added paperwork for the attorneys. The cop looks bad. They would prefer to avoid that.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 1 weekApr 25, 2024 19:53:50 ago (+1/-0)

OH MY GOD! stop whipping meh massa, I be a good niggahh I swear! OH MY GOD

[ - ] Niggly_Puff 0 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 20:55:42 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] texasblood -2 points 1 weekApr 25, 2024 18:56:38 ago (+0/-2)

Cop is a cunt that deserves punted.
She profiled and assaulted.
Shit Cop!