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More fuck n' suck redux

submitted by Joe_McCarthy to OccidentalEnclave 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 20:39:56 ago (+2/-7)     (OccidentalEnclave)

My post taken from this thread:

https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=662807a8e9c77&commentid=662846adb0ab4

The point of mass public sex is less about population levels than halting migration (among other things). But I'll get back to overpopulation in a moment.

Note: what I am about to say is Russian propaganda (and Chinese and Iranian). Be warned EVERYONE.

The post-WW2 global order is basically a US shakedown operation. Countries are effectively charged to use the dollar which promotes underdevelopment in their own countries. This both makes the US wealthier and attractive as an immigration magnet. It also makes the West in general wealthier and more attractive as an immigration magnet.

So Target America. The US is the linchpin of the international system. De-fang it and things can change fundamentally.

Okay...

So I stay out of jail, I stay not dead... a TALL order if you ask ME - but they assure me this will be the case...

I put the fuck n' suck together... we get into the Rockies. Soon a bunch of anarchists effectively do to the US what FARC did to Colombia: we de facto control much of US territory with this mass public fucking in the wilderness. Jake Sullivan said we'd need 30,000 guerrillas... I dunno but there will be people there. People will abandon the bullshit lifestyle for the fuck n' suck lifestyle. In any event, regardless of how pervasive the effects here, it will do enough damage to America's economic standing to cause the dollar to lose its reserve currency status and lead to large amounts of inflation in the US. This will mean a less attractive US to migrate to or stay in as Third World countries can more easily develop and we become poorer.

So there's a migration stopper.

Then...

You've suddenly got this new society in America making waves. This fuck n' suck, this throwback to the 60s on steroids. The question then for the emerging world is whether they want to adopt the fuck n' suck model or this bourgeois, bullshit society model that has just failed in the US. Either way the West gets less migration. Either they adopt the fuck n' suck themselves and thus take to a more scaled back style of existence in societies more prone to development and thus less likely to have outmigration or they just have less reason to move to the West because we're no longer such an attractive target.

For more conservative societies they will try to resist the fuck n' suck. Iran being a notable example. They think basically ANYTHING is better than the United States, including Lucifer, mass public copulation, etc., but they still believe Islam is the answer. In any case these types won't be coming here anymore - or at least not nearly as much - as there will no longer be any compelling economic reason to.

Now on overpopulation:

You can't 'fix' problems by nuking everything. They had to even explain that to me. But mass public fucking does not necessarily lead to more people. At this point the real issue is Africa. They are growing a lot in population at least in part due to them being first wave economically. That is largely agricultural. In other words they need hands to work the farm. If they transition to the fuck n' suck of mass casual sex in the streets it'll tend to encourage the introduction of birth control which their conservative mores have so far mostly disfavored. If you go from very conservative to Sadean that's going to involve other things in the package deal. And at any rate for reasons I've already articulated above Africans will be less likely to move in with us.

A big issue - one I won't dwell on here - is overconsumption. Fossil fuels, everything. You really can't fix overpopulation immediately. Africa's population boost in the next 25 years is basically baked in the cake... but you can begin to mitigate its ill effects with 'my' program. 'My' program addresses about 80% of the worst problems. But stopping exploding population cold immediately isn't something it does, nor can it be done unless you welcome Dr. Strangelove type options. To do that you might as well give up.

For that matter you have little hope at all. Except to hope I really am talking to the devil and the other guy in the red suit in the Kremlin...



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[ - ] White_Pride_Cis 4 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 22:47:14 ago (+4/-0)

Why are you still here?

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 2 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 23:29:15 ago (+2/-0)

Maybe you could go to Russia and try & have a three-way with ol' Putin but you'd have to get a stepping stool for him. ah ah ah

[ - ] HeyJames 2 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 21:36:56 ago (+3/-1)

Nobody wants to follow you. You offer nothing but demand sex

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -2 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 21:45:52 ago (+0/-2)

Let's examine that claim. How many tax returns do you think people will file in the fuck n' suck society for example?

[ - ] Kozel 2 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 23:08:55 ago (+2/-0)

precisely one tax return. It will be from you, the single member of said society.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -1 points 1 weekApr 24, 2024 19:33:23 ago (+0/-1)

No.

No one pays taxes in the fuck n' suck.

[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 1 weekApr 24, 2024 19:41:41 ago (+1/-0)

at one point you did say some should work. That was going to be a shitshow in itself but then someone from the group will pay taxes and its a slippery slope from there.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -1 points 1 weekApr 24, 2024 19:56:51 ago (+0/-1)

There is no reason to pay taxes. That presupposes government. This is anarchism. You don't pay taxes.

Work, as in wage labor, won't exist. Nine to five jobs, bosses, commutes, juggling various aspects of raising kids, going to school, dealing with teachers, dealing with hubby, family, other authoritarian institutions. None of that bullshit will exist in a meaningful way. Those are byproducts of bullshit society.

The average woman will spend her day getting fucked in the ass. And in the pussy. And in the mouth. Often at the same time. By a more or less endless train of men. The men will hunt, fish, or whatever. If you want to call that 'work'.

https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=65f3a8b96705c

“No group on earth has more leisure time than hunters and gatherers, who spend it primarily on games, conversation and relaxing.”

This about sums it up:

https://www.amazon.com/worst-Fishing-better-working-T-Shirt/dp/B084LMHW28

Any weakness you can conjure up about the fuck n' suck will inevitably be met with counter-examples from bullshit society that in their own way are just as bad if not worse.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -1 points 1 weekApr 24, 2024 20:53:04 ago (+0/-1)

"The possibility that the impoverishment of daily life might even render work relatively satisfying, due to the vacuum of substance elsewhere, is rendered unlikely by technology’s progressive degradation of work. There is no area of authenticity, no place to hide, and no one can miss this commonplace. The bumpersticker, “The worst day fishing is better than the best day working,” remains true, as does the also popular “Different day, same bullshit.”" - John Zerzan, Elements of Refusal

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 1 weekApr 24, 2024 21:42:09 ago (+0/-0)

right. because it doesn't exist.

[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 21:12:15 ago (+1/-1)

You can't 'fix' problems by nuking everything

you cant but haarp sure can.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -3 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 21:35:02 ago (+0/-3)

Would you like to explain how HAARP is going to be a factor here? My information - and the mainstream scientific view for that matter - is that the US government's ability to alter the weather is minimal. And my sources are pretty high up...

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -2 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 21:08:00 ago (+0/-2)*

If anyone is interested in constructive discussion on this I'm game. If you're going to just say I'm lying, am crazy, or am otherwise not legit you also need to explain convincingly how I came up with this stuff out of the blue over the last half a year on my own.

Answer: I didn't. But this is all to say that it'd be good to see some reasonable criticism here. Or arguments for why this isn't going to work... or why it shouldn't be attempted. Y'all are basically a bunch of do nothings. At best you're playing it safe - which is a dubious option itself. So it'd be interesting to see someone explain why this shouldn't be tried. Or ask questions. Or offer anything in the way of useful criticism. I don't think undercover feds will attempt to debate meaningfully. They know that's dangerous.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -2 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 20:47:17 ago (+0/-2)

The fuck n' suck is very holistic. I guess it would be when Iran, China, Vladimir Putin, Lucifer, Jesus, and US intelligence are involved. There have even been cameos by Britney Spears, Kendall Jenner, Bella Thorne, Alexander Dugin, and a dead Marilyn Monroe and Sen. Joseph McCarthy (though unlike Marilyn Tailgunner Joe IS in heaven).

And by holistic I mean it makes a lot of sense - encompassing deep ideas in the fields of economics, geopolitics, demography, ecology, etc., - provided you accept certain classified elements in the field of technology and the supernatural. For that matter it makes sense even without the supernatural elements... or maybe it makes more...

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -2 points 2 weeksApr 23, 2024 20:40:58 ago (+0/-2)