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is erasing our identity to be more Christ like a sin?

submitted by niggaswaywhat to AskUpgoat 1 weekApr 22, 2024 09:47:23 ago (+1/-1)     (AskUpgoat)

There is a concept in modern churches that to be like Christ, one has to erase their identity. You can never question, criticize, or do anything contrary to the perceived way the church has decided you should live your life. In my own life, this has caused me to resent the church for how they approach this ideal. This has also caused a LOT of issues with prior Christian friends who hate me asking pesky, annoying questions.

A lot of times, people talk on "behalf of Christ", on subjects without really knowing what He would do. I've seen Christians condemn other Christians for not being Christ like enough. Ive seen the church condemn free thinkers for asking too many questions, admonishing the US for having too many rights, asking that Christians act more like slaves, complaining that people don't want to waste their entire lives at the behest of an overly demanding church, complain donations are down whilst they openly trash the country, trash peoples' efforts by undermining their own skills. if someone can barely make ends meet, how is guilt tripping them into donating gonna help them? Enter the prosperity gospel. Now you can be even more broke, but at least you can feel like you might not be broke later. Don't budget, God will provide. Ironic, since God provides and then you throw it away to greedy anti christ pastors.

Seriously, you'd think the church wants slaves, not converts. Any time someone has an achievement in their lives, they have to have humility and thank God. I can thank God for helping and showing me the way, but i dont think pride is what the church thinks it means. i even asked a pastor if pride is a sin wouldn't it also be a sin to be proud of your own kids? He had no answer of course, just that i took his teachings out of context. How fucking convenient, I must have heard it wrong. It couldnt possibly be that his teachings were retarded nonsense. Of course if pride is a sin you also cant be proud of your own people, your race, your accomplishments, your achievements, your nationality. You have to live your entire life being beholden to everyone else, helping them, going out of your way to fuck yourself over.

Seriously, if you were to have a "servant's heart" (their words not mine), your ENTIRE life would be spent catering to the church. At the height of my serving, I literally had no life outside the Church. It was absurd. And on top of this, the Church uses its flying monkeys and enablers to spy on you at every turn. They didn't give a shit about me serving, but when i told them to get bent, they got all worked up about it. Instead of seeing the people who helped them, they arrogantly assumed they were entitled to free labor and payments.


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[ - ] drstrangergov 1 point 1 weekApr 22, 2024 11:59:18 ago (+1/-0)

I don't go to church anymore. I just have bible studies with friends

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 1 weekApr 22, 2024 10:01:28 ago (+1/-0)

There is a concept in modern churches that to be like Christ, one has to erase their identity. You can never question, criticize, or do anything contrary to the perceived way the church has decided you should live your life.

Nowhere does Christian doctrine say this, though.

[ - ] niggaswaywhat [op] -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 12:01:22 ago (+0/-1)

When I used to go to church in NYC, they espoused that any laws no matter how unjust are decreed by Christ. Hence if a law says abortions are ok, than so must God. Of course, this came off as commie assholes espousing commie propaganda

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 1 weekApr 22, 2024 09:58:43 ago (+1/-0)

There is a concept in modern churches that to be like Christ, one has to erase their identity. You can never question, criticize, or do anything contrary to the perceived way the church has decided you should live your life.

I don't know what shitty assed churches your going to but you might try finding a church that reads the Bible.

[ - ] niggaswaywhat [op] -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 11:54:24 ago (+0/-1)

This was a church in the heart of NYC. My personal theory is that because those churches are heavily preyed on, they say only state approved dogma

[ - ] iSnark 0 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 10:33:33 ago (+1/-1)

That is the problem with the Non-Catholic "Christian" churches! Christ is not at the helm there, he is productized! The "pastor(s)", who are generally Narcissist Megalomaniacs ie. Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers et. al., are in it for the profit! It's a business!

The Catholic Church, while not perfect, IS the Church that Christ instituted through his Apostles. Our Mass, especially the Traditional Latin Mass, has has form & substance.When you go to the right Catholic Church, With a good Priest, devoid of the leftist Koolaide agenda, there is a connection with Christ.

There is validity, in amending our lives to be more like Christ, and putting others needs ahead of our own, after all, we should not be living for this Earth that is overcome with the children of satan, and destined to fade into obscurity. This Earth is a Spiritual testing ground! Our exam is one question, and, it's not a written test! To pass this exam, we need to prove a.) lover for others & b.) extreme Obedience to God. The state of our soul matters.

If you can, find a Traditional Latin Mass, I recommend an SSPX chapel if you have one nearby. sure, you wont understand it at first. BUT, if your Head, your Heart, & Soul are in to it, It won't take terribly long to get proficient with it.

[ - ] texasblood -2 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 11:46:06 ago (+0/-2)

Religion isn't the way it's done.

[ - ] iSnark 1 point 1 weekApr 22, 2024 12:43:50 ago (+1/-0)

Incorrect! It's the ONLY way!

What you fail to understand, is that this Earth is a testing ground for Souls. It isn't that body that matters, after all, the body is disposable, it's the soul that moves on into eternity. The body transmits desires & lust to the Soul, that's why, in the Catholic Church we fast, to impose the will of the Soul over the will of the body! Satan tries extremely hard to desecrate what God has made, he is the wolf that prowls the Earth causing men to doubt the Truth of God! Your choice is simple... Stand with God, through His Church on Earth, OR, be picked off be Satan, who like a time-share salesman, makes big enticing offers up front, and then owns your soul for all of Eternity and leaves YOU in a deal that you CAN'T get out of ever!

[ - ] texasblood -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 13:52:01 ago (+0/-1)

Where is that in the Bible?
Only religion listens to man's teachings.
What does God's word say?

[ - ] iSnark 1 point 1 weekApr 22, 2024 15:42:08 ago (+1/-0)

The inerrant Word of God is clearly written in the Bible, as are the Teachings of Jesus. The bible doesn't have to explicitly say "this Earth is a testing ground for Souls", BUT, it is evident in the Teachings of Christ: "Love on another", "Thou Shall Not...", "And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell."

ALL of these and hundreds more from the Bible, tell us that Earth is a testing ground for Souls...

On a school test you choose "True or False" or maybe the correct answer from the list "A", "B", "C", "D"
It's no different between deciding to having an affair with another mans wife, of steal from the poor, or conversely give aid & shelter to the poor, and lay down one's life in battle for a fellow soldier(s).

[ - ] texasblood -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 16:02:47 ago (+0/-1)

Catholism is the purest definition of a cult 100%.
Millions have broken free and give testimonies of a new freedom to worship without all the demonic religous protocols from twisted old testement teachings of Moses.
The Cross defeated Judaism,Catholism and all other idols being worshiped.
Catholics in practice are just as bad as jews.
They do the same shit hiding behind a religion.

[ - ] iSnark 1 point 1 weekApr 22, 2024 16:16:22 ago (+1/-0)

"Catholism is the purest definition of a cult 100%."

THIS is what you'd say if you have your head up your ass!

YOU
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"Millions have broken free and give testimonies..."

Yep, Fallen right into the globalists hands! They've replaced the Word of God, The Teachings of Jesus, and Good solid Catholic teachings, with feel-good Rah Rah Bullshit!

Ever listen to "Christian" muzak! The worst form of torture programming ever! Non-Catholic "Christians" have the Faith stripped from them! They are now baseless, zombies, searching the land, NOT for brains, but for what feels "good " to them!

[ - ] texasblood -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 16:33:38 ago (+0/-1)

The ones I know have never sat foot in another church since leaving the cult.
Home churchs,politics,schools etc.
ALL BOOTS ON THE GROUND MINISTRIES
Word says God sends the delusion,HE turns you over to your religions and ways that seem right to man.

[ - ] iSnark 1 point 1 weekApr 22, 2024 16:59:03 ago (+1/-0)

Fair enough, I will say this, I'm not here to actively recruit you into Catholicism, It is my Prayer, that God will open your eyes to the Catholic Church, especially the Traditional Latin Mass. Wherever you are on your Spiritual journey, I pray the best for you & yours. I would ask you to consider that satan is at odds with God, satan is doing everything he can do to attack the Catholic Church, The Church established by God through Jesus Christ,

Of course satan would put falsehoods into the heads & hearts of weak-minded believers to bring down the One True Faith. Look up SSPX Mass, you won't understand it, but note thw reverence & love the people have for it. Also, Look up Dr. Taylor Marshall, a former Protestant, turned Catholic, get his insight on the Catholic Church, also Scott Hahn, another former Protestant turned Catholic. If nothing else these are great speakers, do it fro the entertainment value.

The Peace od God be with You.... Time to go mow a lawn! :-(

[ - ] texasblood -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 18:43:31 ago (+0/-1)

After 30+yrs I'm well versed SSPX and all that religous repetition.
When you learn there is no rapture and the Kingdom of God is with in.
It's easy to see where the true Jerusalem is.
There is no God in any religion he is very clear on.

[ - ] texasblood -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 16:08:45 ago (+0/-1)

[ - ] iSnark 1 point 1 weekApr 22, 2024 16:27:39 ago (+1/-0)

That's not a mark against the Catholic Church! That's the deadwood, falling from the tree!

As I said earlier, these "Christians", that leave the One True Church, are nothing more than babies in dirty diapers.

The Catholic church, is rich in the deposit of the Faith, the weak-minded WILL leave to seek feel-good programming at Mega-Churches... look down the road a few generations!

This is the progression:

Parents: Catholic >
Adult children of parents "Christian" >
Grandchildren Godless Atheists

Guess who benefits...

Satan!

[ - ] chrimony -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 12:35:05 ago (+0/-1)

I do not live my life by asking, "What would Rabbi Jebus do?"

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 12:00:04 ago (+0/-1)

to be like Christ, one has to erase their identity

a) Sameness (inception towards death) generates differences (life).

b) Likeness contradicts sameness (identical).

c) Few suggest equality (same) through diversity (difference) to tempt consenting many to react alike...doing so destroys differences.

In short...nature sets apart; few within tempt many together, as to remain apart.

d) Christ implies "anointed one" aka each one consecrated by oil aka each off-spring coming through the birth-channel.

[ - ] GodDoesNotExist -1 points 1 weekApr 22, 2024 11:51:31 ago (+0/-1)

Only absolute retards believe in sin BS.