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A letter to Cesar describing Jesus

submitted by canbot to whatever 1 monthApr 8, 2024 20:15:58 ago (+43/-8)     (files.catbox.moe)

https://files.catbox.moe/esuh4o.mp4



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[ - ] Panic 11 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 21:29:30 ago (+13/-2)

So Jesus was golden blonde? Nice.

[ - ] shitface9000 1 point 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:13:25 ago (+2/-1)

His countenance has been described in detail.

[ - ] boekanier 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 03:35:22 ago (+1/-0)

yeah, that was the time all jews were pure aryans, blond, blue eyes, straight nose, etc...

[ - ] Razzoriel 3 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 07:46:45 ago (+3/-0)

Except the letter clearly states Jesus stood different from the crowd.

[ - ] The_Reunto 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 05:31:34 ago (+0/-0)

*blond

[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 10:03:18 ago (+0/-0)

Pseudepigraphia were popular in the ancient world.

[ - ] canbot [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 12:32:43 ago (+0/-0)

Not necessarily, if everyone has black hair then brown hair will get described as golden. Everything is relative.

[ - ] Dindu 4 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:46:39 ago (+6/-2)

I wish this was real but I don't believe it is. It is very very good fan fic

[ - ] xachariah 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 04:18:20 ago (+1/-0)

This is a fanfic, but it's a fanfic from 200-400 AD.

That puts it well before the collapse of the Roman Empire and takeover of the regions in the bible by sand people. IIRC it's the oldest description of Jesus, and far older than the Talmud or Quran.

[ - ] GeorgeBailey 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 05:03:12 ago (+2/-1)

Why 200-400?

Why not 150-450?

Why not 80-355?

Why not 30 AD like the letter says.

From my readings it says they cannot trace the letter past the Renaissance. It doesn't mean it isn't from 30 ad it just means that nobody knows. And you don't know either. You can't make a claim it was made between 200 to 400 ad. What a range all you have done is describe the renaissance.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:14:54 ago (+1/-1)

You mean fraud.

[ - ] IsraelRespecter 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 07:21:33 ago (+0/-0)

Like Holocaust denial

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 4 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 21:26:57 ago (+4/-0)

Pay up, GOYIM!

[ - ] RedBarchetta 3 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:28:14 ago (+3/-0)

Pilate never wanted to kill Jesus. It was the Jewish Clerics.

“the chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin” had gathered. This is a gathering of the Sanhedrin, the Jewish Ruling Council composed of 70 or 72 chief priests, scribes or lawyers, and the Elders representing the people, under the presidency of the High Priest, Caiaphas. This Council included Pharisees and Sadducees, whom we have already encountered as opponents of Jesus Christ.

The jews hated jesus for his teachings but wanted him dead, They dragged him before Pilate to be tried for blasphemy—for claiming, they said, to be King of the Jews

[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 07:49:05 ago (+1/-0)

Pilate had regret from it, and that was according to Scriptures too. Which is why he told the soldiers to put the sign "Rex Iudaeorum", which pissed off all jews for eternity and its their primal source of rage against all monarchies, even the ones they fully control.

[ - ] canbot [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 12:29:34 ago (+0/-0)

The jews in power hated jesus because he threatened their racket.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 13:44:10 ago (+1/-0)

The full version of the letter includes the description quoted here as well as many other aspects including why the Jews wanted Jesus dad and a description of his death and the resurrection by Pontius Pilate in the letter.
https://christgnostic.com/historic-letter-written-by-pontius-pilate-to-tiberius-caesar/

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:13:54 ago (+2/-0)

what about all the shit that went down thousands of years before jesus with the Sumerians?

[ - ] canbot [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 12:29:55 ago (+0/-0)

What about it?

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 23:11:38 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 08:35:04 ago (+1/-0)*

Regarding authenticity. It would not be unusual to have such a letter.

And while not discussing Jesus specifically there are many records from the time of Tiberius Caesar that are written when Tiberius was ruling and within 30 or 40 years after his death. And while you might at first glance think something that was written 30 or 40 years later isn't very good for those of you who are 50 years or older remember that would be like writing about the 1980s right now and I could easily write a lot about the 1980s right now

In fact what I would write about the 1980s right now would probably be more contextually accurate and truthful than if I had written about it in the 1980s because so many things have been revealed since the 1980s about say for instance President Reagan and other things that my knowledge of what was really going on then is more enhanced now than it was in 1980.


https://jamesbishopblog.com/2019/11/11/comparing-sources-for-jesus-christ-with-tiberius-caesar-personal-reflection/


Here is an interesting couple of paragraphs from that website

Begin quoted paragraphs

Speaking of dates of composition alone, apart from Velleius Paterculus (a contemporary of Tiberius, who penned his Roman History in 30 CE), all the sources for Tiberius are 73 or more years removed from the events they narrate. These three major sources are from Tacitus (Annals 1-6, dated 110 CE), Suetonius (Tiberius, 120 CE), and Cassius Dio (Roman History 57–58, 200 CE). As we noted in my earlier reflection, the gospels, by current consensus dating, all fall within 60 years of Christ’s death by crucifixion. Mark is traditionally dated earliest coming in around 40 years post-Christ (70 CE), with the latest being the Gospel of John, around 60 years after Christ (90 CE). Although we need to accept that earliness is not a guarantee of authenticity the general rule of thumb within historical scholarship is the earlier the source the better. I believe that source materials dating to within a century of the purported events are in close enough proximity to the memories of the events passed on by eyewitnesses, and thus can be taken as valuable until proven guilty.


End quoted paragraphs


As I said it's now almost 45 years after the 1980s and I could probably write more accurately about what was going on in the 1980s now that I could during the 1980s itself when I was as blind to what was going on in the world around that time. As everybody else. When you're living in it you tend to believe the propaganda of the moment unless you've had some life experience and realize how what you are seeing and reading in the general Media is likely highly distorted.

[ - ] canbot [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 12:24:23 ago (+0/-0)

think something that was written 30 or 40 years later isn't very good

I don't think anything back then was written about anything on a shorter time frame. First off why would you write a book about anything that just happened? Everyone knows about it. Everyone talks about it. No one gets the impression that they have anything to say about it that they are not also hearing from a multitude of other people. If you are spreading the word about something you simply tell people, so they can ask questions and you can figure out what are the details that need to be conveyed to they understand. No one would ever start writing anything until at least 20 years.

Even then the process of writing something take a long time. Everything is scribbled with sharpened feathers on primitive parchment. Hard to use, and hard to come by, and expensive things that few can afford and no one will waste on trivial gossip.

By the time it gets painstakingly transcribed and disseminated that could take decades on it's own.

Anyone arguing that a book written 50 years (more accurately released) later is not contemporary to the subject written is stupid or a propagandist.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 1 monthApr 8, 2024 23:14:42 ago (+4/-3)

Historical! We don't have anything not written on stone from before about 1400.. everything you think is history is fucking fantasy writers... shit look into the druids. You think there is some extensive library about druids and what they did? Nope like three fucking documents and 2 are pretty fucking sketchy.. almost nothing is know for real before the 1400s..

Now think of today's world. With computers and full time historians the history books say sandy hook was real. 9/11 was 19 Saudia Arabians with no help from the kike fucks and we went to the moon 6 times with 1970s technology but we destroyed it all and it cost to much now. And the holahoax ya that was totally real 6 million jews killed by bears eagles masterbation machines roller costers and gas chambers that open out and are made of wood.

Ya I believe that letter is completely accurate and historical

[ - ] The_Reunto 2 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 05:29:56 ago (+2/-0)

We don't have anything not written on stone from before about 1400.

SMH.... Go do some research before you speak.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 15:29:43 ago (+0/-0)

Almost nothing first hand original... or very very little. Chinese might have stuff.

[ - ] FacelessOne 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:07:07 ago (+1/-0)

Are you saying everything is Fake and Gay?

[ - ] dontbeaphaggot 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 01:34:51 ago (+1/-0)

Bullshitter

[ - ] boekanier 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 03:37:02 ago (+0/-0)

history is the most fake 'science' there is

[ - ] dass 1 point 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:34:48 ago (+2/-1)

You hear That ??. Now don't be late filling out you tax forms.

[ - ] x0x7 -2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 23:03:11 ago (+0/-2)

Or maybe stop using money issued by people you don't like and then pretending you have a right to complain that they have power over you.

[ - ] dass 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 01:36:58 ago (+0/-0)

Lol, wut?.
Clearly according to IRS rules render until Caesar applies to taxation.

[ - ] allAheadFull 1 point 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:06:30 ago (+2/-1)

I first heard of this supposed letter about a month ago. I wonder where it was all these years. I have to ask, if Pilate thought so highly of Jesus, why have him tortured for days before crucifying him?

[ - ] shitface9000 4 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:13:49 ago (+5/-1)

(((jews)))

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 3 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:02:18 ago (+3/-0)

Clearly it's fanfic.

[ - ] GeorgeBailey 2 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 04:47:53 ago (+2/-0)

John 19:1
Then pilot took Jesus and had him flogged.

He wasn't tortured for days he was tortured by a specific torture called flogging. It's a very brutal torture but the idea was to satisfy the jews who wanted crucifixion.

But then before that, Pilate tried to spare Jesus entirely by offering a prisoner release comparing Jesus with a horrible murderer named Barabbas. The jews chose to release the murderer.

Pilate was in trouble. Rome was already displeased with how he was running the territory. And pilate was a power hungry prideful man. In fact he killed himself when he was reduced to a normal powerless person. So he was trying desperately to keep peace to keep his power.

[ - ] canbot [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 12:31:40 ago (+0/-0)

This account is just from his first encounter with Jesus. There is no telling what he thought of him latter.

[ - ] rhy 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 14:51:20 ago (+0/-0)

In other words: Don't use government currency.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 11:46:41 ago (+0/-0)*

Another description of Jesus written at the time describes his hair as the color of chestnuts full ripe.. no that's not brown as you can see.

https://search.brave.com/images?q=chestnut%2C%20full%20ripe


Here is the description

Also redness skin, fine features, grey eyes.

So not black or Jewish or arabesque in any way.

Nordic. Perhaps Irish.

"A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy"

From this
Book owned by a lord and copied directly from a description written at the time.

http://www.thenazareneway.com/likeness_of_our_saviour.htm

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 11:41:45 ago (+0/-0)

There are lots of good records of the period


https://okcu.on.worldcat.org/oclc/6203813

For example this book https://search.worldcat.org/title/historical-records-concerning-jesus-the-christ-messiah-records-copied-from-the-official-manuscripts-and-scrolls-made-by-the-senatorial-courts-of-tiberius-caesar-and-by-the-sanhedrin-in-the-days-of-jesus-entitled-christ-found-in-the-libraries-at-rome-and-constantinople/oclc/6203813

contains


How these records were discovered -- A hort sketch of the Talmuds -- Constantine's letter in regard to having fifty copies of the Scriptures written and bound -- jonathan's interview wit hteh Bethlehem shepherds -- Letter of melker, pries of the synagogue at Bethlehem -- Gamaliel's interview with Joseph and Mary and others concerning Jesus -- Report of Caiaphas to the Sanhedrim concerning the execution of Jesus -- Report of Caiaphas to the Sanhedrim concerning the resurrecton of Jesus -- Valleus's notes -- "Acta Pilati," or Pilate's report to Caesar of the arrest, trial, and crucifixion of Jesus -- Herod Antipater's defense before the Roman Senate in regard to his conduct at Bethlehem -- Herod Antipas's defense before the Roman Senate in regard to the execution of John the Baptist -- The Hillel letters regarding God's providence to the Jews / by Hillel the Third.

[ - ] NoSalvation 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 11:22:51 ago (+0/-0)

Jesus never existed, sorry. A mythical figure.

[ - ] templurker 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 11:05:39 ago (+0/-0)

This letter has been debunk there is no greek manuscript. Fake news sorry.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 08:16:51 ago (+0/-0)

I can't believe it all my life including my youthful Christian teachings that I never heard of this letter and that there was a first-hand description by a recorded official of Rome as to what Jesus looked like and how he spoke.

The Romans kept excellent records which have survived to this day. We know how many stones it took to build roads we know all kinds of details and they survived.

So it is highly unlikely that this is an accurate and real description

[ - ] canbot [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 12:25:52 ago (+0/-0)

Your argument is that you haven't heard it before therefore it isn't real?

[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 21:07:35 ago (+2/-2)

Interesting

[ - ] IsraelRespecter -1 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 06:36:39 ago (+0/-1)

jesus was a brown jew, nice nazi propaganda

[ - ] chrimony -1 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:13:34 ago (+1/-2)

Fake and gay. You do the work of the jews.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker -1 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:10:43 ago (+1/-2)

This is fanfic. If you take the bible at its word, the israelites were ordered to mutilate baby penises, put non-jews into debt slavery, and use subversion to conquer nations. That is who jesus was the messiah of, and he said multiple times that salvation came only through their tribe and that he was there to fulfill the words of the prophets who told the israelites to mutilate baby penises and take over the world through debt slavery.

Either jesus is the messiah of the god that chose the ancestors of today's jews in the first place, in which case why would you trust him? Or jesus was a real person who opposed the jews and their wicked god, in which case the bible you were given is a fabrication with numerous lies to trick you into worshiping the jew god alongside jesus so they could steal your spiritual power for themselves. Or jesus was a fiction created by jews to subvert rome and steal our people's spiritual power, redirecting it to their god. There is no option where the god of the christian bible who chose jews to mutilate baby penises and take over the world through debt slavery is the good guy, unless you hate your race and worship jews.

Throw your bible in the trash and stop falling for jewish lies.

[ - ] allAheadFull 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:49:32 ago (+1/-1)

I think there is some evidence that Emperor Titus and his father forced Josephus, and probably some others, to create Christianity to make the jews believe that their messiah had already come in order to settle them down.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 01:52:54 ago (+0/-0)

It's a good theory, but with a proper understanding of how jews work you will realize that it was josephus who tricked Titus into helping him spread a new subversive religion, not the other way around.

[ - ] allAheadFull 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 12:15:44 ago (+0/-0)

I understand jews.

[ - ] Master_Foo -1 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 20:58:38 ago (+8/-9)

Christ-Cucks think this actually happened.

[ - ] shitface9000 4 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:14:25 ago (+5/-1)

you're a broken record ffs. get some new material. yawn.

[ - ] Master_Foo -1 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:17:23 ago (+3/-4)

Meh.
Maybe Christ-Cucks should stop doing the things we notice them doing?
All you are doing is complaining about pattern behavior of Christ-Cucks.
When they stop, I stop.

[ - ] shitface9000 2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 23:39:49 ago (+2/-0)

Your repetition is boring and indicates you have no original thoughts.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 16:24:35 ago (+0/-0)

What does that say about the Christ-Cucks?

[ - ] GreatSatan 1 point 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:16:08 ago (+4/-3)

The jew is angry that he can no longer call Christ a filthy brown jew anymore. 😂

[ - ] Rowdybme 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:05:13 ago (+0/-0)

Fucking chink paid 2$ an hour by ur chink government. But buttfuck buddha

[ - ] IsraelRespecter 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 07:02:58 ago (+0/-0)

total christcuck death!

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 21:57:25 ago (+4/-6)

The first documented mention of jesus outside of the bible is like 80 yrs after his death. Posting a known fraud just proves how low info you christcucks are about your own religion.

[ - ] GreatSatan 2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:17:44 ago (+7/-5)

Christ is King. Silence jew

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 23:42:17 ago (+2/-3)

username is accurate, keep worshipping the jew demon whose goal it is to destroy rome and the white race

[ - ] GreatSatan 3 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:44:34 ago (+4/-1)

It’s the name of the USA. I don’t worship any jew demon.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -2 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 02:19:22 ago (+0/-2)

yes we're well aware the golems of the jews want to destroy our nations. you worship a jew demon who says to 'destroy the nations' and you're cheering it on as programmed.

[ - ] x0x7 -1 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 23:05:03 ago (+0/-1)

I'm pretty sure no one is buying that this is real.

[ - ] allAheadFull 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:11:23 ago (+1/-0)

Millions of views in multiple posts on jewtube. Comments all positive.

[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 10:02:27 ago (+0/-0)

I guess Taylor Swift could write a gospel, then.

[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:17:55 ago (+1/-0)

Current score: +24/-5

People beleeb what they want to beleeb.

[ - ] shitface9000 -2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:15:29 ago (+0/-2)

k

[ - ] Spaceman84 -2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 21:12:42 ago (+6/-8)

You are yet another data point confirming that Christians are illiterate retards. Christfags are not sending their best.

[ - ] shitface9000 0 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:14:54 ago (+1/-1)

who sent you?

[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 1 monthApr 8, 2024 23:02:04 ago (+1/-0)

Adolf Hitler

[ - ] shitface9000 2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 23:40:30 ago (+3/-1)

who was a Christian

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:05:48 ago (+1/-0)

Have you read anything about the "christianity" of the Nazi leaders? Try Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin by Hitler's mentor Dietrich Eckhart and based on their conversations about religion. Hitler rejected 95%+ of the bible and cared more about the apocryphal gospels than the judaic ones in the bible. His "christianity" was more Pagan than judeo-biblical.

[ - ] canbot [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 12:33:59 ago (+0/-0)

I'm not even religious you stupid fuck.

[ - ] GreatSatan -2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:16:42 ago (+1/-3)

Christ is King. Kike

[ - ] Spaceman84 -2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 23:06:52 ago (+1/-3)

Ok retard. Adolf Hitler is the savior of the white race but you dysgenic race traitors are too fucking stupid to see it due to kike programming and your shit retard genes. His spirit has risen from the grave and the world is seeing that He was right. You Abrahamist kikesuckers belong in labor camps.

[ - ] GreatSatan 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 00:45:50 ago (+0/-0)

Hitler was a Gnostic Christian

[ - ] Rob3122 -2 points 1 monthApr 8, 2024 20:59:40 ago (+2/-4)

The obsession of this guy is mind boggling

[ - ] The_Reunto 1 point 1 monthApr 8, 2024 22:00:53 ago (+3/-2)

Go back to your Talmud

[ - ] Rob3122 0 points 1 monthApr 9, 2024 15:11:10 ago (+0/-0)

I don't read any religious bullshit because it's a waste of time and you know it.