Even with all those incredibly retarded field commanders. Practically makes me want to consult, but that's pretty much what you get with the military mind. Still doing meat attacks when drones kill anything from infantry to tanks.
If anyone is under any delusion that the United States millitary is the strongest force in the world and is backing the petro dollar.
Just imagine China turning on its manufacturing power to create billions of drops piloted by endless hordes of frustrated incel boys who all they do is play video games. Our drones use video game controllers.
Now imagine an American president threatening China with our navy... now imagine 10 million drones of various sizes and configurations flying over the horizon towards our fleet and our idiot jew controlled President doesn't back down.. 10 million kamakazi drones with machine guns bombs torpedoes napalm or what ever else fucked up shit China could come up with in a total war situation.
Our millitary might would be sunk to the bottom of the sea in under 30 minutes
You'd have to carry a shotgun instead of a rifle, and you still couldn't do a continuous 360 observation to catch the drone coming in. They almost always have a spotter drone above, guiding the FPV drone to the target. Shotgun won't do much for a drone a couple hundred feet up dropping grenades on you.
Yes, you would. You just need one man in a squad with a scattergun. It's been proven effective at taking out drones and is realistically the best option at the moment.
If the squad is that bunched up, then they're an optimal grenade drop target. I'm not seeing any videos with shotguns taking out drones. There are thousands of videos of drones taking out enemy infantry and armor with no resistance.
Concealment is hard. Drones watch you going to your position or trench. If you're already there, thermal imaging drones spot you and give your position to the FPV operators.
Extensive netting could work for the suicide drones, but wouldn't stop grenade drops. You still have all kinds of artillery dropping on you too, plus direct fire on the line of contact. It's not the place to be if you want to live.
Follow up shows a anti-drone installation on top of the lead tank, that did zero against the pretty devastating drone attack by the Ukrainians. The Russian commander in that area appears to be some kind of moron.
Shotguns with birdshot have been stated to be very effective against the drones
Where'd you hear this? Why aren't the Russians and Ukrainians fully outfitted with shotguns for this purpose now? When this all started and the drone bombing footage started pouring out, I got curious about this and looked up some videos on youtube. People bought all kinds of shitty, cheap drones and fired various weapons at them. I was astonished at how well these things could take birdshot or even buckshot without becoming disabled.
The only shit that I've seen footage which works against drones- shooting them down with a rifle has been caught on film a few times, or literally smacking them with a stick when they're coming at you. I've seen footage of Russians firing shotguns at them, but none of that footage shows them downing a drone.
Heard it from a few sources since drone warfare started heating up over there. I'm sure I'd read in at least one or two articles that the Russians were breaking out their Saiga-12s for last line of drone defense, and heard several anecdotes from mercs on the the Ukranian side that they're started to employ shotguns- including from those two losers that were on Garand Thumb's channel a couple weeks back.
Both sides are employing jamming tech as well for a first line of defense against them, whether via jamming drones or mounted to other vehicles. That's a luxury we probably won't have if we get swarmed.
Next countersteps will be camera detectors with lasers to blind, scramblers for the return video feed, parallel signal generators to send wrong flight control inputs to the drones after the encryption is detected, and AA net munitions which will have to be large to counter the random flight patterns.
In drones, those will be counter-measured by proximal shut-off and taking over flight authority using A.I. for the final leg. Close contact urban fighting will be confusing and A.I. will FF when a simple flag is enough to confuse them.
Anti-drone will work as coverage for massed troops but the proximity groups will require mobile anti-drone systems to be flown in by, wait for it, drones. Every division will require it's own drone helper army to protect troops until the ground troops themselves eventually become irrelevant.
Unless satellites are brought down, EMPs are common, or other total measures are utilized the arms-race towards smaller self guided drones vs countermeasure will continue.
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Let's not dilute the word or people might think goat fuckers with suicide vests are just a combat asset and not a sign of their fucked up religion.
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Tell us more about video game fighters aces and muh Russia take 6 million casualties from meat wave attacks
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Okay.
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Just imagine China turning on its manufacturing power to create billions of drops piloted by endless hordes of frustrated incel boys who all they do is play video games. Our drones use video game controllers.
Now imagine an American president threatening China with our navy... now imagine 10 million drones of various sizes and configurations flying over the horizon towards our fleet and our idiot jew controlled President doesn't back down.. 10 million kamakazi drones with machine guns bombs torpedoes napalm or what ever else fucked up shit China could come up with in a total war situation.
Our millitary might would be sunk to the bottom of the sea in under 30 minutes
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White men disappear, so does usa armed forces.
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Shotguns with birdshot have been stated to be very effective against the drones.
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Good concealment goes a long way too.
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Concealment is hard. Drones watch you going to your position or trench. If you're already there, thermal imaging drones spot you and give your position to the FPV operators.
Extensive netting could work for the suicide drones, but wouldn't stop grenade drops. You still have all kinds of artillery dropping on you too, plus direct fire on the line of contact. It's not the place to be if you want to live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CaAoCfAWsQ
Last nights update video starts with a drone view video of FPV drones wiping out a Russian attack.
https://youtu.be/I3LdpCNxfxc?t=1466
Follow up shows a anti-drone installation on top of the lead tank, that did zero against the pretty devastating drone attack by the Ukrainians. The Russian commander in that area appears to be some kind of moron.
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Drones plus artillery
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Where'd you hear this? Why aren't the Russians and Ukrainians fully outfitted with shotguns for this purpose now? When this all started and the drone bombing footage started pouring out, I got curious about this and looked up some videos on youtube. People bought all kinds of shitty, cheap drones and fired various weapons at them. I was astonished at how well these things could take birdshot or even buckshot without becoming disabled.
The only shit that I've seen footage which works against drones- shooting them down with a rifle has been caught on film a few times, or literally smacking them with a stick when they're coming at you. I've seen footage of Russians firing shotguns at them, but none of that footage shows them downing a drone.
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Both sides are employing jamming tech as well for a first line of defense against them, whether via jamming drones or mounted to other vehicles. That's a luxury we probably won't have if we get swarmed.
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In drones, those will be counter-measured by proximal shut-off and taking over flight authority using A.I. for the final leg. Close contact urban fighting will be confusing and A.I. will FF when a simple flag is enough to confuse them.
Anti-drone will work as coverage for massed troops but the proximity groups will require mobile anti-drone systems to be flown in by, wait for it, drones. Every division will require it's own drone helper army to protect troops until the ground troops themselves eventually become irrelevant.
Unless satellites are brought down, EMPs are common, or other total measures are utilized the arms-race towards smaller self guided drones vs countermeasure will continue.
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