I've had my fill of wild game meat over the course of the last half century and eventually got tired of it, actually after getting dental implants in my upper jaw the taste for food really changed, even somewhat diminished to where it was demoralizing because I really loved to eat...I have to chew and chew on something to finally realize the taste and it's fucking irritating.
Wild game, as a rule, is tough, dry and unsavory, it's all in the prep and spicing and of course cooking temp. There's no way that a moose steak is going to taste good if cooked like a beef steak. But when it comes to venison the smell of it cooking will swear one off eating it for a lifetime, the nose never forgets a bad smell.
A while back buddy up the road from me shot an 8pointer in my yard, he butchered it up and gave me a few lbs of steak, in short, after a minute on the barbecue I couldn't stand the smell, given that my area has a lot of swamp and cedar it only made sense that the meat was going to be swamping. It was putrid and I tossed it out for coyote bait.
A few months ago buddy cooked up a venison roast from a young spike horn that he bagged in a corn field in Indiana and wanted me to stay for dinner, I told him that I had no taste for deer meat anymore but that I would try it anyway...I couldn't get enough of it. Fucking tender and no wild taste because it was fed like a cow and not a swamp creature.
YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT...AND SO ARE THE ANIMALS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EAT TOO.
I was fortunate/unfortunate to be gifted with a hillbilly/redneck/white trash father......white trash might be going a little too far, maybe..
So how he was raised was that ANYTHING that walked, crawled, swam, ran or flew was edible and "good". I'm talking deer, moose, elk, snapping turtle, rattle snake, tree rats, geese, duck, fish or anything really. If aliens landed in the back 80 god help them they'd be on the counter gutted and cut up to broil. And the "season" didn't matter. Ducks in spring, many a wayward deer on the shoulder of the road that most people would miss caught a fender and were an "accident". Snapping turtle crossing the road to get to the swamp? Solid brake lights and skidding tires, out comes the jack handle for him to bite and thrown in the bed.
Fuck it was awful lol.
I discovered steak at 23 years old because a room mate grilled some up. Never going back.
Agree, Venison is typically gamey. I live in NH, plenty of oak trees and acorns for them to fatten up on to last the winter. I'll take backstrap steaks and marinate in Italian Dressing for 24 hrs, they grill nice. Ground venison, i'll mix with 1/2 80% lean beef. I mixed with bacon grease once to keep the burgers from drying out too much and they were actually good, but not so great on the gut afterward
Also how long you let it hang and the temperature while it's hanging. It's like a nigger, in a way. If you don't let it hang long enough it might still be ripe and kicking and if you let it go too long it will be stinking and covered in mold. Some people like to hang them until there's lots of mold and then scrape it off. They say it tastes better -deer not nigger- but that kinda grosses me out so I tend to steer clear of eating it if that's the process they used.
Meat can be dry cured, that's how salami, prosciutto and cappicolo are made, 3months of hanging in a cold room at around 35°F with a small percentage of humidity, the prosciutto takes 9 months to a year and actually gets a green fuzz mold that gets cut off when ready....personally I've taken prime rib beef steaks and set them on a maple or oak wood platter but with a barbecue grate under the meat for air flow and with very cool temp, I'd let sit for 2 weeks, buddy did 3 weeks,....but the meat is beyond tender.
[ - ] Ragnar 1 point 1.1 yearsMar 30, 2024 16:54:29 ago (+2/-1)
SOrry Z, gotta disagree with you here. Venison is great. You need to hang the animal to drain it. I have had venison roasts with no seasoning and it still tasted great.
Though, I agree it’s very lean and one needs lots of butter on the parsnips
I've slaughtered plenty of meat animals and if it's one thing Im big on is the bleed-out, it's always best to slit the throat open while the heart still has a beating signal, kinda hard with wild game unless you're right close to it when it's shot, but the key is to get the throat opened up before blood coagulates...after skin and quartering a moose I'll let it hand for a week in a cool area before cutting but swamp is swamp and it affects the taste...corn fed deer doesn't have that swamp taste....caribou is also good.
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 1.1 yearsMar 30, 2024 17:44:56 ago (+1/-0)
The whole thing. Just one big pussy Frenchman. I know what you're thinking, that maybe he was eating tuna, but no. It just tastes like one giant sloppy pussy.
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Never ate it, but after reading about it, because I really want to taste it, it seems like dressing plays a huge part on how to cook it. Something about not making the correct cuts at the gut may spill the fecal matter at the best parts and ruining the taste even after washing.
Venison is so fucking good. And I had the amazing experience of my grandpa taking me to south africa on a hunting trip when I was like 18. Killed an impala, hemsbok, and other things including a zebra. Still have the zebra skin. African venison is out of this world good.
Then you ain't eaten deer meat made the right way. Rolled and fried tenderloin is the tastiest thing on erf. You have to let them hang and drain the blood before you chop them up. During rut bucks can be gamey. We use 50% deer meat in our home to offset the kike beef, etc prices
Generally with moose meat I would grind it all into sausage and mix 1/3 pork into it, there's still a hint of swamp but palatable...moose from north of the 49th parallel have a different taste and texture because they're grazing on sweet tundra grass and lichen whereas below the 49th it's all swamp and cedars.
Similarly, deer harvested around me (deep South) where it's basically all woods and little agriculture are smaller, but taste way better than the deer I harvested in the corn belt. The bucks down here taste better than does from up north, and the doe burgers are mistaken for beef when cut with beef tallow.
oh I forgot you're far up north. Yeah it gets kinda gamey up that way. I'm eastern US. The moose I had was quite gamey. Once in a while I'll kill a deer here and its nasty but 9 out of 10 its good. I give the nasty ones away or make deer bologna. I can live off that shit. mmm lol
Damn snow bunnies! I don't mind a little cold (normal winter) but I would crack if I had to live up there. The older I get the less I like the cold and may end up going south at some point into a nice white area.
@HonkyMcetc...everything about life up here in Kanastan revolves around staying warm...I heat with wood and it's an ongoing chore, ambivalence has set in, I fucking hate it as much as I love it, but it's a big commitment that demands strict loyalty, get lazy and you freeze, I've got more chainsaws than a Siberian ice vendor and 2 wood splitters, I used to split with an axe basically just to stay in shape, particularly during my hockey years, my best splitting round was at the age of 25, I was in killer shape, I did 2chords of maple in 45 minutes, mind you my cousin was picking and placing the blocks and all I did was swing that axe and if the block didn't split I picked the entire block with the axe over my head and slammed it down in reverse so that the weight of the block drove itself into the pitch of the axe, fuck, I can axe paper thin strips of kindling from a cedar block with my splitting axe with every stick almost uniform in thickness and pretty much all on muscle memory, fuck man it used to be up here in Canada (now Kanastan) that as a kid we learned how to use a knife and an axe before we learned to read and write, and I'm serious...and not once have I ever had a self inflicted casualty that required medical attention, I've cut myself here and there but working with sharp edges does not come without hazard...but it's beautiful heat and the visual effects from the flame, along with the faint hint of aromatic maple wood smoke and the dull roar of a well stoked fire, all blended in with the sounds of a snow storm or a heavy rain, generate an inner calm that cannot be replicated with anything else...THEN THE THOUGHT OF HAVING TO CLEAN OUT THE ASHES RUINS EVERYTHING, BUT WORTH IT...FYI, nothing gets a dame in the "mood" like a bear skin rug and a good fire...then mother nature hits with a low pressure down-draft and pushes the smoke in reverse, fuck I hate when that happens. And there you have it.
"I heat with wood and it's an ongoing chore, ambivalence has set in, I fucking hate it as much as I love it, but it's a big commitment that demands strict loyalty, get lazy and you freeze"
I know just what you mean. I grew up with wood/coal heat in the mountains of Appalachia. Had to cut, split(before wood splitters) and stack wood back then or shovel and transport lump coal. It was part of everyday life. I love it and I hate it. I only burn wood now if I want to. I use gas and electric for my main these days. I also have a nice chainsaw collection. You aren't looking to buy a good'n, are ya? kek
"THEN THE THOUGHT OF HAVING TO CLEAN OUT THE ASHES RUINS EVERYTHING"
That shit is for the birds. I hated that part too.
Here, I love the smell in the mornings when someone banks their stove with coal. Its a smell that is uniquely beautiful(believe it or not). I also love to smell a wood fire. I know a lot of people who went to those pellet stoves. I could never do that because what happens when ya run out of pellets? You're screwed. It is nice to stretch out in front of a fireplace on a snowy night. Its one of the greatest feelings on Earth.
I watched a thing on YouTube where a bunch of Alaskan White boys were canning moose in a massive multi tiered pot they had welded up themselves. Other moose meat, they were grinding into burger meat and adding some percentage of pork fat for fat and flavor I guess. I’ve considered grinding lean flavorful beef with some pork fat. Sounds good.
[ - ] BoozyB 1 point 1.1 yearsMar 30, 2024 23:37:27 ago (+1/-0)
I rarely got to taste venison tenderloin. My ex and my daughter would wait with a plate while I was butchering. I would cut them out and they would take them to the kitchen, pan fry 'em and eat 'em.
lol I know. It doesn't last long. I'm the same way with fried squash. I stand there and eat it as soon as she takes it out of the pan. I can eat that shit til I puke.
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So how he was raised was that ANYTHING that walked, crawled, swam, ran or flew was edible and "good". I'm talking deer, moose, elk, snapping turtle, rattle snake, tree rats, geese, duck, fish or anything really. If aliens landed in the back 80 god help them they'd be on the counter gutted and cut up to broil. And the "season" didn't matter. Ducks in spring, many a wayward deer on the shoulder of the road that most people would miss caught a fender and were an "accident". Snapping turtle crossing the road to get to the swamp? Solid brake lights and skidding tires, out comes the jack handle for him to bite and thrown in the bed.
Fuck it was awful lol.
I discovered steak at 23 years old because a room mate grilled some up. Never going back.
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Which is why Tyson is feeding ze boogs to their meat animals now.
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Though, I agree it’s very lean and one needs lots of butter on the parsnips
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https://www.sott.net/article/490017-Honey-glazed-venison-The-surprisingly-sophisticated-lives-of-the-stilt-house-marshland-dwellers-of-England-3000-years-ago
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And there you have it.
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I know just what you mean. I grew up with wood/coal heat in the mountains of Appalachia. Had to cut, split(before wood splitters) and stack wood back then or shovel and transport lump coal. It was part of everyday life. I love it and I hate it. I only burn wood now if I want to. I use gas and electric for my main these days. I also have a nice chainsaw collection. You aren't looking to buy a good'n, are ya? kek
"THEN THE THOUGHT OF HAVING TO CLEAN OUT THE ASHES RUINS EVERYTHING"
That shit is for the birds. I hated that part too.
Here, I love the smell in the mornings when someone banks their stove with coal. Its a smell that is uniquely beautiful(believe it or not). I also love to smell a wood fire. I know a lot of people who went to those pellet stoves. I could never do that because what happens when ya run out of pellets? You're screwed. It is nice to stretch out in front of a fireplace on a snowy night. Its one of the greatest feelings on Earth.
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