☰
×
Login Register an account
Top Submissions Explore Upgoat Search Random Subverse Random Post Colorize! Site Rules
22

Do we have a Canary? And if not, should we have one?

submitted by PeckerwoodPerry to AskUpgoat 1 monthMar 29, 2024 19:43:43 ago (+23/-1)     (AskUpgoat)

If you were on old voat you probably know what I'm talking about. If not, fuck you you're dead to me.

Anyway, shouldn't we have a Canary here?


53 comments block

sort by: hot new top old low

[ - ] TheodoreKent 26 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:10:05 ago (+26/-0)

Canaries are pointless and you should assume the Feds have you personal data.

The most important thing is that you should never fear that the Feds have your data.

The moment you are afraid to do/say something because you 'might get in trouble' is the moment they have complete power over you.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 8 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 22:36:56 ago (+9/-1)

“But I shouldn’t have to worry if I’m not doing anything wrong” - every boomer ever.

[ - ] Centaurus 7 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 06:19:49 ago (+7/-0)

If I ever misspell a word, that means we have been compramized.

[ - ] JudyStroyer 4 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 08:21:20 ago (+4/-0)

Fuck

[ - ] SumerBreeze 4 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 04:49:53 ago (+4/-0)

They follow me - I even know the nickname that they refer to me as! It’s a shit nickname, though - considering (((Marvel Universe))) is gay kikenigger garbage…

[ - ] Centaurus 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 10:01:16 ago (+1/-0)

I heard it was Ms Marvel.

[ - ] SumerBreeze 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 15:10:34 ago (+1/-0)

I’m not that familiar with the kikery that is Marvel, but you gave it your best judaised guess.

Jesus was right about the jews.

[ - ] AlexanderMorose13 2 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 22:24:06 ago (+2/-0)

Fuck yeah. This guy gets it.

[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 2 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 02:14:34 ago (+3/-1)

Agreed. Same thing with this faggot-assed doxing fear.

[ - ] SilentByAssociation 2 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 08:23:26 ago (+2/-0)

The moment you are afraid to do/say something because you 'might get in trouble' is the moment they have complete power over you.

Yes, they rule via fear.

[ - ] system 10 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:16:25 ago (+10/-0)

How do I set one up?

As of 03-29-2024 this website has not received any requests for user data from any law enforcement agency or any other government agency.

Would that statement on a page work?

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 4 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 22:05:56 ago (+5/-1)

I guess it could be a sticky post on it's own sub that stays up until it doesn't.

The more I think about it, the sillier it becomes. It's not like any agency needs your permission to crawl the site for wrong think. It would be transparent to know if you've been actually contacted by cunts though.

[ - ] bobdole9 3 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 23:06:01 ago (+3/-0)

I asked system before to let us know if FEDs start asking questions.

Hopefully a subject of "CANARY DIED" gives everyone the heads-up necessary.

[ - ] TheYiddler 2 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 07:25:12 ago (+2/-0)

Sometimes these requests come with an order not to talk about it. So the canary is the way to get around that. The canary dies when the canary statement is removed or is not updated on schedule.

[ - ] The_Reunto 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 11:45:30 ago (+1/-0)

The concept of the canary is that supposedly during a sting operation by law enforcement there will be some instruction not to send out any message indicating that there is an ongoing investigation. The premise of a canary was a loophole. The premise is that it is a passive signal as opposed to an active signal and therefore would not necessarily contradict an instruction from law enforcement to not tell users about investigations. I'm not a legal expert, I have no idea if it actually works that way. But following that premise, if an investigation was ongoing, the site admin would be unable to post "canary died"

[ - ] Xantha 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 06:13:39 ago (+1/-0)

this can be as complicated or subtle as you want. Like give all users a yellow bird trophy, if you ever get a request, change the color to something else or just remove it.

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 0 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 13:46:53 ago (+0/-0)

The point of a canary is the Feds can't compell you to post anything. They can only stop you from posting. If the canary don't sing, site ownership and control has been compromised because you have either been silenced or you refuse to post.
This of course only works so long as you truly refuse to cooperate with the black suits threatening everything you love and hold dear.
Stand Strong System

[ - ] chrimony 6 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:53:38 ago (+6/-0)

They are worthless. If you think you are safe because the site owner will protect you from Big Bro, and pinky swear to tell you about it if he becomes compromised, then you are a fool. Just assume the three letter agencies have full transparency into the server and act accordingly.

[ - ] TheYiddler 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 07:26:39 ago (+1/-0)

Right. The warrant is there for parallel reconstruction. They already have the info.

[ - ] boekanier 0 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 04:47:50 ago (+0/-0)

they have the technology. No wonder, if I had all the tax money...

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 5 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 19:57:53 ago (+5/-0)

I mean, it would probably be a good idea. Maybe some way to signal that they received orders or whatever.

[ - ] MichaelStewart 0 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:48:06 ago (+0/-0)

I always assumed communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct was the canary and that ConPro’s canary was arete.network

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 3 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:19:25 ago (+3/-0)

I left there a couple months ago because a anti-white pos runs rampant there and a mod sided with him. They don't deserve people of our quality over there. fuck'em. boring ass shithole with boring ass retards. Its not as bad as poal, though

[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1 monthMar 29, 2024 23:06:38 ago (+1/-0)

Talking ConPro or Aerate?

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 1 point 1 monthMar 29, 2024 23:41:48 ago (+1/-0)

Conpro.

[ - ] ButtToucha9000 1 point 1 monthMar 29, 2024 23:50:38 ago (+1/-0)

They block them all the time. And you can too. Ppl make alts.

[ - ] taoV 4 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 00:12:24 ago (+4/-0)

It didn't do anything for Voat, and it won't do anything here. Reminding people of the stark reality that (((they))) have all the digital info they want would do more to protect users.

Actually, that's not a bad idea. Post a monthly security reminder, with evidence, that the clearweb isn't secure, and any wrongthinker should behave as though they have a target on their back.

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 3 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:55:21 ago (+3/-0)

the idea of a canary is only good if you 100% trust who is in charge of the canary. otherwise, it is useless.

[ - ] Sal_180 3 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:19:28 ago (+3/-0)

No, they're a waste of time.

[ - ] x0x7 4 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:04:16 ago (+4/-0)

Largely. Plus the entire point of one is to say we haven't been contacted without discussing it. So what if you get contacted and your users demand there be a canary on the site. If you yield to them you are just lying. And you can't discuss it with them because you are sealed from discussing it.

So that's basically not how canaries work. You don't demand a canary. That wouldn't be a canary. What would be a canary is if the site owner just happened to feel like putting a picture of a bird somewhere on the site without discussing why and you didn't ask questions about it. That's how canaries are supposed to work.

[ - ] Allienonymus 3 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:48:21 ago (+3/-0)

Thedonald canary was triggered and no one gave a shit. They serve a purpose but people suck

[ - ] Cantaloupe 2 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 23:29:01 ago (+2/-0)

All your personal data is public.

They can see your screen, use your camera and microphone

All the network components have a drop.

About the only thing you can hide is from companies selling your data

[ - ] BushChuck 2 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:25:08 ago (+2/-0)

We should have a rooster.

[ - ] recon_johnny 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 00:30:03 ago (+1/-0)

So you’re saying you like cock…

[ - ] BushChuck 0 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 00:37:20 ago (+0/-0)

*Coq au Vin

[ - ] The_Reunto 2 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:18:53 ago (+2/-0)

Back when this site was accepting the voat.co users that were couch hopping on poal, the topic came up and nothing was done at the time. One theory is that the site was already compromised. No idea, but if there is no interest even now, it might be an indication that the canary would have died by now.

[ - ] drstrangergov 1 point 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:36:11 ago (+1/-0)

Rip boobs. He was kind of a little asshole. But at least he wasn't a commie. I don't think.

[ - ] bosunmoon 2 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:15:58 ago (+2/-0)

The canary died. We're still chasing the dragon.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 10:00:18 ago (+1/-0)

Yes and no. What we need to do is just realize that system and upgoat are compromised and not post things that will draw attention.

[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 05:23:30 ago (+1/-0)

You should just assume the government is already involved. Don't be afraid, Be a Man.

[ - ] GrayDragon 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 05:16:03 ago (+1/-0)

You shut your whore fucking mouth when I am fedding.

[ - ] AnmanIndustries 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 01:58:38 ago (+1/-0)

Australian government visits this site often.

[ - ] ButtToucha9000 1 point 1 monthMar 30, 2024 00:01:53 ago (+1/-0)

Just put a big ass bird in the header with a Deadman switch. If you don't sign in to it within a period of time then the bird dies. Ezpz.

[ - ] drstrangergov 1 point 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:34:34 ago (+1/-0)

Good point. Maybe we all can be each others canaries. Its Friday night. Im still here and fed-free. No gunshots. No explosions. Powers on. Just watching the slow steady decline of western civilization while downlookers keep their eyes fixed to their screens to avoid seeing it. But I'm good. How are you?

[ - ] Fascinus 1 point 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:11:00 ago (+2/-1)

@TexasVet

[ - ] SumerBreeze 1 point 1 monthMar 29, 2024 19:57:58 ago (+2/-1)

Someone is dead to you if they don’t know about a reddit clone that was made specifically to have free speech?

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 4 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:01:50 ago (+5/-1)

It's a fuckin joke, bro. Don't take shit so seriously, it'll give you heartburn.

[ - ] Sector2 1 point 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:24:20 ago (+2/-1)

Then an ulcer, and probably non-genetic baldness, which is almost as bad.

[ - ] DukeofRaul 4 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:04:14 ago (+4/-0)

Richard Gere had a hamster instead of a canary

[ - ] DeusExMachina 0 points 1 monthMar 30, 2024 05:26:01 ago (+0/-0)

Ultimately, a warrant canary will only tell us that someone who posted here actually went and did something in the real world. I'd say there's not much chance of that happening here.

The canary on Voat went tits up just like secretlypsycho and her misguided scholastic pursuits. Nothing really happened as far as the userbase was concerned near as I could tell.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 23:53:23 ago (+0/-0)

deleted

[ - ] White_Pride_Cis 0 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:26:16 ago (+0/-0)

I remember when Voat.co’s canary died. It wasn’t too long after the site went down on Christmas Day. Putt picked a terrible day

[ - ] 2Drunk 0 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 21:03:49 ago (+0/-0)

Like voat.co was never a honeypot to begin with. They will be coming for your keyboards.

[ - ] Lophan 0 points 1 monthMar 29, 2024 20:08:30 ago (+0/-0)

It would be good, but if it's already compromised would it work?

And I kept going even after so...