I never heard of fuzzy logic, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that this is an already explored path just because it resembles something that has been tried. It also seems to have elements of analog computing, which was surpassed by transistor computing, but is also making a resurgence as new methods are being invented to put the concepts into practice. Sometimes old ideas can become more powerful than current ones with novel implementation. Sometimes it is a matter of being ahead of the times or not having the necessary technology to implement the vision.
[ - ] canbot [op] 1 point 1 monthMar 21, 2024 04:03:19 ago (+1/-0)
We'll never know what the true inspiration was, even if they make some documentary about it in 50 years because they will just make up something that sounds good. I think it may have been inspired by quantum computing.
As quantum computing fails the people who bought into it and sunk a lot of time and effort into it desperately look for ways to make it work, and rework the theories to work around the logical and physical nonsense. So they went from the "qbit exists in a superposition between 1 and 0 then collapses instantly into a solution of the input" to something along the lines of "the qbit exists on a spectrum between 1 and 0" which is an interesting concept. All you do is separate that from the legacy bullshit of quantum computing and start fresh from here.
The devil is in the details though. It will be really cool if they can put together a proof of concept. I suspect this will suffer from a lot of error. I still believe there is something viable in it.
It fills my heart with joy to hear "as quantum fails", I assume this remark is made because this is occurring.
I'm one of the few people that still doesnt believe what they say they can do with quantum. I think its all a cash grab. You know why?
If you want to learn how a normal CPU functions, what parts make it up, how the semiconductor is doped, you can find all that, they will flat out tell you all the details.
Now lets go do the same for a quantum puter, but wait, this information is different, very vague, around every corner is a thing that 'just is' that you should 'just believe'. That isn't science, that's religion.
Its not that I dont think such things are possible, it's that I think they are lying that they can do it. Anything a layman cannot reproduce, a layman should not believe. They lie to you all the fucking time, and for money, fuggetaboutit.
I do not believe modern scientists have the ability to transmit a qbit across time and read it's result in the future. It sounds cool, even sounds feasible, until you give it any serious thought.
Can anyone tell me what components and physical attributes of those components needed to create the quantum CPU? Even one bit is fine, just want to see the premise. No one can without injecting some sorcery to cover the gaps.
Egg fucking zactly. Same atmosphere in which string theory exists. And when you start pointing out that it does not make sense they claim you don't understand it.
That's the point. It's a way of introducing enough noise that it creates a sort-of fuzzy-logic, mimicking how a human brain works. They talked about making it noisy enough to form a wave function that can then be processed as-is, instead of locking in a 1/0 dichotomy, while trying not to introduce too many errors.
Either way, I'm interested in the upcoming experiments. If they pass jew-review that is.
Extropic is shortcutting this inefficiency and unlocking the full potential of generative AI by implementing EBMs directly as parameterized stochastic analog circuits.
If they can turn that theory into functioning circuitry, sounds like it has the potential to be our autistic skynet. Impressively ambitious.
the year is 2032 autistic skynet becomes self-aware the ghost of terry davis is the first to notice
Trains! There are trains everywhere...I was here just last week and there was not a single rail car nor stick of track to be seen. And now...this. I- where in the fuck did all these trains come from? Where are they even going? Somebody answer me goddam- oh right. That makes sense. They must be here for the niggercattle. Cool.
'Effectiveness' of computing doesn't necessarily have any bearing on consciousness. The real key to consciousness is the capacity for sensation (evolved into a sophisticated form over time), and more likely has to do with the variety of potential configurations and reactions with organic molecules (carbon in particular enabling many relatively stable long-chain molecules). I don't think AI can be conscious until it's constructed/interfaced with biological systems.
Maybe consciousness is an emergent phenomenon in any sufficiently complex system. I don't see why organic molecules should have some special property that bestows consciousness.
Because organic chemistry allows for far more complexity than inorganic. Without knowing where the sufficiency of complexity begins, biology is the better bet.
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Kinda wonder how that came about.
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As quantum computing fails the people who bought into it and sunk a lot of time and effort into it desperately look for ways to make it work, and rework the theories to work around the logical and physical nonsense. So they went from the "qbit exists in a superposition between 1 and 0 then collapses instantly into a solution of the input" to something along the lines of "the qbit exists on a spectrum between 1 and 0" which is an interesting concept. All you do is separate that from the legacy bullshit of quantum computing and start fresh from here.
The devil is in the details though. It will be really cool if they can put together a proof of concept. I suspect this will suffer from a lot of error. I still believe there is something viable in it.
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[ - ] purityspiral 1 point 1 monthMar 21, 2024 09:13:41 ago (+1/-0)
I'm one of the few people that still doesnt believe what they say they can do with quantum.
I think its all a cash grab. You know why?
If you want to learn how a normal CPU functions, what parts make it up, how the semiconductor is doped, you can find all that, they will flat out tell you all the details.
Now lets go do the same for a quantum puter, but wait, this information is different, very vague, around every corner is a thing that 'just is' that you should 'just believe'. That isn't science, that's religion.
Its not that I dont think such things are possible, it's that I think they are lying that they can do it. Anything a layman cannot reproduce, a layman should not believe. They lie to you all the fucking time, and for money, fuggetaboutit.
I do not believe modern scientists have the ability to transmit a qbit across time and read it's result in the future.
It sounds cool, even sounds feasible, until you give it any serious thought.
Can anyone tell me what components and physical attributes of those components needed to create the quantum CPU? Even one bit is fine, just want to see the premise. No one can without injecting some sorcery to cover the gaps.
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That's the point. It's a way of introducing enough noise that it creates a sort-of fuzzy-logic, mimicking how a human brain works. They talked about making it noisy enough to form a wave function that can then be processed as-is, instead of locking in a 1/0 dichotomy, while trying not to introduce too many errors.
Either way, I'm interested in the upcoming experiments. If they pass jew-review that is.
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It's likely 4:17PM, but who can be sure?
Would you like to try and save your work before exiting?
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If they can turn that theory into functioning circuitry, sounds like it has the potential to be our autistic skynet. Impressively ambitious.
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autistic skynet becomes self-aware
the ghost of terry davis is the first to notice
Trains! There are trains everywhere...I was here just last week and there was not a single rail car nor stick of track to be seen. And now...this. I- where in the fuck did all these trains come from? Where are they even going? Somebody answer me goddam- oh right. That makes sense. They must be here for the niggercattle.
Cool.
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