I posted this under your other thread but I meant to post it here. But it's the pinnacle of satellite technology. NASA is the number one purchaser of helium.
Check out the Lawrence Captive Airship. It was a bunch of kites strung together with a camera to take landscape photographs and they called it an Airship. Not alot has changed in 100 years with them calling weather balloons "Satellites"
The photo on the left is taken from that "Airship" and it showcases the aftermath of the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake. The photographs on the right are from the Nagasaki aftermath from supposed nukes being dropped on them.
Look into nagasaki and hurioshima... only one jew reporter was allowed to report on the supposed event and anyone else was in fear of the death penalty... all for something that 100% really happend for real we the goverment are not lying this time
There's so much history to uncover. Our version of history was written fairly recently. The globe Earth idea hasn't even been around for a 100 years. I mean, it's been around a long time but it was always on the fringe and not accepted whatsoever. Flat earth Dave was interviewing old people at an old folk's home who could remember being taught that the earth was flat in school. And with our own experience we can see that they lied about the Holocaust, 911, Sandy Hook, covid. They're constantly lying to us about our present. How naive do people got to be to not realize that if they can lie about the current reality you are experiencing that they have no doubt lied about everything in history.
That exact same thing proves the Earth is flat, and the Sun rotates around it.
literally no, it is mathmatically impossible for it to be the case here. the difference between straight line and round curve is clear as day when you do the test. we know geometry very fucking well, and we were confident on that even thousands of years ago.
How does the stick experiment work with crepuscular rays? The experiment supposes that the suns rays are parallel at all times yet crepuscular rays prove that to be incorrect. So how do you factor this into his ancient experiment?
it's been around since the greeks you fucking retard.
It's amazing how you dumb faggots can't accept basic concepts. I'm not arguing that there isn't a claim that the Greeks knew you dumb illiterate cunt. My claim is that it is a lie.
you can calculate the earth is round by two sticks and basic mathematics
This is why people like you cannot be trusted. You're either a shill or you're a full on retard.
Eratosthenes did an experiment based on presumptions. He presumed that The Earth was round therefore, to get the results that he wanted, he had to presume that the sun's rays were parallel.
What would make a guy look at this picture and assume that the sun's rays are reaching the Earth parallel? Maybe a retard like yourself.
Now let's take that experiment and change some presumptions based on observable data. Like the clouds. So he would have observed crepuscular cloud rays which would suggest a smaller local Sun, which would conclude that the shadows are cast on a flat Earth with a small local Sun.
So just explain to me why somebody thousands of years ago would look at that picture of clouds and make a presumption that the sun's rays are hitting the earth parallel?
if you're so fucking concerned about it, physics is weird about heat, water and light sometimes, just fucking fly in a plane, the fact you can't do that shit on land should tell you something.
David Weiss is sadly, control opposition. He is a jew and defends the holocaust myth. Although he promotes some truths, he is out to make us look like fools.
Eric Dubay has been the only flat earther that actually acknowledges controlled opposition, has made his very own documentaries on Hitler and the holohoax and allows for open discussion on any relative topic and especially about kikes.
I used to follow flat earth Dave and was saddened to find out the truth behind him. Although I do believe his interview wit the old folks home coincided with the covid scamdemic conveniently. He was flying to close to the sun when he promoted others to seek out old folks to talk to so they knocked that nail on the head with the scamdemic.
I agree. But I feel the same way about Alex Jones and Q anon. I hate them both but their job is to give you bread crumbs of truth and then shout at the top of their lungs that the CIA is turning frogs gay. It discredits those breadcrumbs. But the breadcrumbs are truth nonetheless.
Eric Dubay
I like him.
Personally, I'm a big reader. When I started getting into FE I read Einstein's books about relativity and the papers on the Mickelson and Morley experiment and so on. Which led me to Whitsit gets it. What do you think of that guy? He picked my interest in the Mickelson and Morley experiment and after researching that he nailed it. If anybody would actually read Einstein's theory, a special relativity and how he applied that to Mickelson and Morley's experiment, they would wonder how the fuck did that retard get a Nobel prize? Lol.
I know exactly how you feel and Alex did a very good job on turning people away from the truth about the "gay frogs" nonsense.
The frogs were not turning gay, their biology was physically changing from male to female with the capability of laying eggs. This was caused by a pesticide called 'Atrazine' and the whistleblower who was studying it was clearly becoming effected by the pesticide too.
Alex did a good job at burying the truth with his bread crumbs.
When I started getting into FE I read Einstein's books about relativity and the papers on the Mickelson and Morley experiment and so on. Which led me to Whitsit gets it. What do you think of that guy? He picked my interest in the Mickelson and Morley experiment and after researching that he nailed it.
I had a completely different route to finding out the truth about the shape of the Earth. I read the works of various stoic philosophers. Socrates, Marcus Aurelius and Epictitus were all monumental in my new path to wisdom. Around the same time I happened upon a Joe Rogan podcast with Eddie Bravo and at first I was laughing at Eddie. However the way that Joe and his other guests acted towards Eddie, with such hatred and vitriol for his belief in the shape of the Earth set of red flags. It's the same hatred that we experience here with people calling us retards. The only time I ever see this type of blind hatred is when the truth is being attacked.
I shall look into the Mickelson and Morley experiment, do you have any suggestions or links to start with?
I read the works of various stoic philosophers. Socrates, Marcus Aurelius and Epictitus were all monumental in my new path to wisdom.
That's funny because at first I wasn't even giving them the time a day because I kept seeing this mainstream narrative that all these ancient philosophers believed the earth was round and it didn't make sense to me. Why the fuck would they think it's round? So I thought they were a jewish invention. Then I started reading about philosophy and theology and I realized that all these men were flat earthers and that the jew lie is that they believed the globe. The reading all the philosophy you gave me some great insight into theology and religion. It's all connected.
Joe Rogan podcast with Eddie Bravo
I like Eddie bravo. He seems genuinely frustrated when Joe doesn't take him seriously but I'm really skeptical about Joe Rogan. He used to be a driver for a CIA agent back in his young days. So he has some connections. But I remember him talking about how ridiculous the moon landing was. Then he flip-flopped. Now it seems like he's coming back around. He just seems like he's playing a part.
I shall look into the Mickelson and Morley experiment, do you have any suggestions or links to start with?
Just read Einstein's special theory of relativity published in 1905 then I would look up witsit gets it on YouTube. He covers it pretty extensively.
In a nutshell, what to expect.
Mickelson and Morley tried to measure the revolution of the Earth around the sun. Their experiment had two presumptions. They presume there was an aether and they presumed that the Earth was revolving around the sun. So they pumped their variables into the equation. When they perform the experiment and compare the results to their prediction, the experiment was null. You could look at this null result in two different ways. 1. Assume the presumption of the earth revolution around the Sun was incorrect or 2. the presumption of aether was incorrect. Keep in mind that this experiment was done in 1887. 70 years before Russia supposedly launched the first satellite. This is also at a time when everybody understood there was an aether. Even Nikola Tesla credits the aether for his understanding of electricity. So you would think in 1887, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the earth is revolving around the sun, that they would have went with number one and assumed that the earth wasn't revolving around the sun. But instead nickleson and Morley tried to explain that the aether contracted the measuring equipment and made it appear as a null result. But be assured, the Earth is round and revolving around the sun. They're only evidence being the null result. This was bad because inevitably somebody would just come along and say hey, The earth isn't moving. So they panicked for years and in 1905 Einstein approached Mickelson and Morley's experiment with the theory special relativity. Einstein says that it is possible for two objective realities to occur simultaneously. And that they did get the results that they predicted, but we can only observe those results from outside of our perception of reality. So he basically said there is absolutely zero proof in this reality that the earth is revolving around the sun. But trust him, it is.
That is the theory of special relativity in a nutshell. They literally prove nothing and made up some theoretical bullshit to patch up their failed experiment that 100% disproved their theory.
And that's just the theory of special relativity. If we got into general relativity then we'd be talking about dark matter. An unobservable matter that makes up over 95% of the universe. Dark matters is just a fancy word for margin of error. The theory of relativity is so off when it comes to explaining the cosmos. They literally had to make over 95% of it up.
All of those satellites and not a single photograph of one in orbit. Just artist rendered images.
you do realize how dangerous orbital maneuvers are and how far apart each of those dots are, right?
space is BIG and to orbit in it or even get anywhere with speed you have to go very fucking fast and even the difference of an inch or speed or trajectory can see you colliding with the thing instead of stopping nearby to it
Yeah it's so dangerous!! We couldn't possibly have a photo! Or even on the live nasa feed!
space is dangerous enough that a loose paint chip moves fast enough to cause the same amount of damage a full blown bullet does (or more)
you'd call a live feed fake cgi anyways
are YOU going to fund some super expensive livestream project or photography mission? if it goes wrong and crashes the satellite somehow, will YOU pay to replace it? i suspect you won't.
besides, look up and see if any of the stars are moving
Small correction, satellites aren't in "space", they are within Earth's atmosphere.
only be degrees, we're not even gonna get into the rabbit hole of layers of atmosphere and the types of vacuum becuase the last time i had to explain this to another flat earther goat i nearly blew a blood vessel from how he was so fucking retarded about it we never even tried again.
TLDR there is some gas in space above earth, space itself is not technically a true vacuum, and a true vacuum is so scientifically impossible that the attempts by labs to achieve it could be a rabbit hole in and of themselves
if you take any volume of outer space up there, there is always something inside it, provably and measurably but good fucking luck finding that distinction when its two rocks, a dust particle and a hydrogen atom that you could technically argue over.
[ - ] Wahaha 1 point 1 monthMar 13, 2024 10:07:20 ago (+1/-0)
I wasn't alluding to the vacuum part, just the distances.
Distance to the moon: 384 400 km (238 855 miles) Earth's atmosphere: 1 000 km (621 miles) Satellites: 770 km (478 miles) International "Space" Station: 350 km (217 miles)
There's quite a bit of variance for satellites, but I'm not aware of any that are outside Earth's atmosphere. They're used for things relating to Earth, so it makes sense for them to not be that far away. Not sure how the "Space" Station gets away with its name, though.
so it makes sense for them to not be that far away. Not sure how the "Space" Station gets away with its name, though.
becuase it is effectively space and "space" is only the layers and sky region above a certain point which, before certain discoveries only got defined as "that layer humans can no longer breathe at"
technically speaking, the moon is "within earths atmosphere", like i said, this is a rabbit hole, we would be here all day, it gets complicated.
The moon is inside Earth's gravitational pull, but not within it's atmosphere. Outer space is clearly defined as being outside the atmosphere of celestial bodies. Calling it space station is just marketing lies.
[ + ] Freespeechplease
[ - ] Freespeechplease 9 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 08:28:28 ago (+9/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty 3 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 03:29:09 ago (+8/-5)
I posted this under your other thread but I meant to post it here. But it's the pinnacle of satellite technology. NASA is the number one purchaser of helium.
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt [op] 2 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 03:45:17 ago (+6/-4)
https://files.catbox.moe/6nx7os.png
Also
The photo on the left is taken from that "Airship" and it showcases the aftermath of the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake. The photographs on the right are from the Nagasaki aftermath from supposed nukes being dropped on them.
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 1 monthMar 13, 2024 12:00:55 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 03:53:29 ago (+6/-7)
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones 2 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 06:40:17 ago (+6/-4)
it's been around since the greeks you fucking retard.
you can calculate the earth is round by two sticks and basic mathematics
[ + ] BushChuck
[ - ] BushChuck 0 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 10:31:05 ago (+2/-2)
Also, probably a completely manufactured story.
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 10:39:39 ago (+0/-1)
literally no, it is mathmatically impossible for it to be the case here. the difference between straight line and round curve is clear as day when you do the test. we know geometry very fucking well, and we were confident on that even thousands of years ago.
get a life, stop being stupid
[ + ] BushChuck
[ - ] BushChuck 3 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 10:42:36 ago (+4/-1)
Imagine claiming to know anything regarding math, and thinking you live on the outside of a spinning ball.
Kek
[ + ] heroinwinsagain
[ - ] heroinwinsagain 2 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 11:36:40 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones 1 point 1 monthMar 13, 2024 11:42:24 ago (+2/-1)
do you even fucking know what it is you have written?
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt [op] -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 22:49:13 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty 0 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 16:35:49 ago (+2/-2)
It's amazing how you dumb faggots can't accept basic concepts. I'm not arguing that there isn't a claim that the Greeks knew you dumb illiterate cunt. My claim is that it is a lie.
This is why people like you cannot be trusted. You're either a shill or you're a full on retard.
Eratosthenes did an experiment based on presumptions. He presumed that The Earth was round therefore, to get the results that he wanted, he had to presume that the sun's rays were parallel.
So he would have seen a cloud like this.
https://files.catbox.moe/h15qtw.jpg
What would make a guy look at this picture and assume that the sun's rays are reaching the Earth parallel? Maybe a retard like yourself.
Now let's take that experiment and change some presumptions based on observable data. Like the clouds. So he would have observed crepuscular cloud rays which would suggest a smaller local Sun, which would conclude that the shadows are cast on a flat Earth with a small local Sun.
So just explain to me why somebody thousands of years ago would look at that picture of clouds and make a presumption that the sun's rays are hitting the earth parallel?
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 12:02:06 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 12:59:00 ago (+0/-1)
if you're so fucking concerned about it, physics is weird about heat, water and light sometimes, just fucking fly in a plane, the fact you can't do that shit on land should tell you something.
just buy a plane ticket or rent a plane
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt [op] -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 22:51:04 ago (+0/-1)
Take your own advice ya fucking moron.
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt [op] -2 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 04:08:08 ago (+3/-5)
David Weiss is sadly, control opposition. He is a jew and defends the holocaust myth. Although he promotes some truths, he is out to make us look like fools.
https://ifers.forumotion.com/f10-flat-earth-shills-trolls-and-controlled-opposition
Eric Dubay has been the only flat earther that actually acknowledges controlled opposition, has made his very own documentaries on Hitler and the holohoax and allows for open discussion on any relative topic and especially about kikes.
https://ifers.forumotion.com/f7-nasa-un-freemasonry-vatican-jews-jesuits-nwo
I used to follow flat earth Dave and was saddened to find out the truth behind him. Although I do believe his interview wit the old folks home coincided with the covid scamdemic conveniently. He was flying to close to the sun when he promoted others to seek out old folks to talk to so they knocked that nail on the head with the scamdemic.
https://ifers.forumotion.com/t394-is-eric-dubay-controlled-opposition
I'm also cautious of Eric Dubay but so far he is the only one that doesn't censor discussion on whether he himself is controlled opposition.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty -2 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 04:15:48 ago (+3/-5)
I agree. But I feel the same way about Alex Jones and Q anon. I hate them both but their job is to give you bread crumbs of truth and then shout at the top of their lungs that the CIA is turning frogs gay. It discredits those breadcrumbs. But the breadcrumbs are truth nonetheless.
I like him.
Personally, I'm a big reader. When I started getting into FE I read Einstein's books about relativity and the papers on the Mickelson and Morley experiment and so on. Which led me to Whitsit gets it. What do you think of that guy? He picked my interest in the Mickelson and Morley experiment and after researching that he nailed it. If anybody would actually read Einstein's theory, a special relativity and how he applied that to Mickelson and Morley's experiment, they would wonder how the fuck did that retard get a Nobel prize? Lol.
[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt [op] -2 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 04:33:56 ago (+3/-5)
The frogs were not turning gay, their biology was physically changing from male to female with the capability of laying eggs. This was caused by a pesticide called 'Atrazine' and the whistleblower who was studying it was clearly becoming effected by the pesticide too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP-6Gp5RbjQ
Alex did a good job at burying the truth with his bread crumbs.
I had a completely different route to finding out the truth about the shape of the Earth. I read the works of various stoic philosophers. Socrates, Marcus Aurelius and Epictitus were all monumental in my new path to wisdom. Around the same time I happened upon a Joe Rogan podcast with Eddie Bravo and at first I was laughing at Eddie. However the way that Joe and his other guests acted towards Eddie, with such hatred and vitriol for his belief in the shape of the Earth set of red flags. It's the same hatred that we experience here with people calling us retards. The only time I ever see this type of blind hatred is when the truth is being attacked.
I shall look into the Mickelson and Morley experiment, do you have any suggestions or links to start with?
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 3 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 04:56:29 ago (+4/-1)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 04:54:54 ago (+5/-6)*
That's funny because at first I wasn't even giving them the time a day because I kept seeing this mainstream narrative that all these ancient philosophers believed the earth was round and it didn't make sense to me. Why the fuck would they think it's round? So I thought they were a jewish invention. Then I started reading about philosophy and theology and I realized that all these men were flat earthers and that the jew lie is that they believed the globe. The reading all the philosophy you gave me some great insight into theology and religion. It's all connected.
I like Eddie bravo. He seems genuinely frustrated when Joe doesn't take him seriously but I'm really skeptical about Joe Rogan. He used to be a driver for a CIA agent back in his young days. So he has some connections. But I remember him talking about how ridiculous the moon landing was. Then he flip-flopped. Now it seems like he's coming back around. He just seems like he's playing a part.
Just read Einstein's special theory of relativity published in 1905 then I would look up witsit gets it on YouTube. He covers it pretty extensively.
In a nutshell, what to expect.
Mickelson and Morley tried to measure the revolution of the Earth around the sun. Their experiment had two presumptions. They presume there was an aether and they presumed that the Earth was revolving around the sun. So they pumped their variables into the equation. When they perform the experiment and compare the results to their prediction, the experiment was null. You could look at this null result in two different ways. 1. Assume the presumption of the earth revolution around the Sun was incorrect or 2. the presumption of aether was incorrect. Keep in mind that this experiment was done in 1887. 70 years before Russia supposedly launched the first satellite. This is also at a time when everybody understood there was an aether. Even Nikola Tesla credits the aether for his understanding of electricity. So you would think in 1887, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the earth is revolving around the sun, that they would have went with number one and assumed that the earth wasn't revolving around the sun. But instead nickleson and Morley tried to explain that the aether contracted the measuring equipment and made it appear as a null result. But be assured, the Earth is round and revolving around the sun. They're only evidence being the null result. This was bad because inevitably somebody would just come along and say hey, The earth isn't moving. So they panicked for years and in 1905 Einstein approached Mickelson and Morley's experiment with the theory special relativity. Einstein says that it is possible for two objective realities to occur simultaneously. And that they did get the results that they predicted, but we can only observe those results from outside of our perception of reality. So he basically said there is absolutely zero proof in this reality that the earth is revolving around the sun. But trust him, it is.
That is the theory of special relativity in a nutshell. They literally prove nothing and made up some theoretical bullshit to patch up their failed experiment that 100% disproved their theory.
And that's just the theory of special relativity. If we got into general relativity then we'd be talking about dark matter. An unobservable matter that makes up over 95% of the universe. Dark matters is just a fancy word for margin of error. The theory of relativity is so off when it comes to explaining the cosmos. They literally had to make over 95% of it up.
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 11:59:25 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] BushChuck
[ - ] BushChuck 0 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 10:29:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] mannerbund
[ - ] mannerbund -2 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 10:13:53 ago (+0/-2)
https://www.spacex.com/launches/
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones -3 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 06:38:41 ago (+1/-4)
you do realize how dangerous orbital maneuvers are and how far apart each of those dots are, right?
space is BIG and to orbit in it or even get anywhere with speed you have to go very fucking fast and even the difference of an inch or speed or trajectory can see you colliding with the thing instead of stopping nearby to it
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 4 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 07:05:01 ago (+6/-2)
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 07:14:34 ago (+3/-4)
space is dangerous enough that a loose paint chip moves fast enough to cause the same amount of damage a full blown bullet does (or more)
you'd call a live feed fake cgi anyways
are YOU going to fund some super expensive livestream project or photography mission? if it goes wrong and crashes the satellite somehow, will YOU pay to replace it? i suspect you won't.
besides, look up and see if any of the stars are moving
there's your sattelites
[ + ] CasualObserver
[ - ] CasualObserver 1 point 1 monthMar 13, 2024 08:54:52 ago (+2/-1)
No disrespect, but you a boomer, right?
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 0 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 14:50:14 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Wahaha
[ - ] Wahaha 3 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 07:52:33 ago (+4/-1)
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones 0 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 08:04:56 ago (+1/-1)
only be degrees, we're not even gonna get into the rabbit hole of layers of atmosphere and the types of vacuum becuase the last time i had to explain this to another flat earther goat i nearly blew a blood vessel from how he was so fucking retarded about it we never even tried again.
TLDR there is some gas in space above earth, space itself is not technically a true vacuum, and a true vacuum is so scientifically impossible that the attempts by labs to achieve it could be a rabbit hole in and of themselves
if you take any volume of outer space up there, there is always something inside it, provably and measurably but good fucking luck finding that distinction when its two rocks, a dust particle and a hydrogen atom that you could technically argue over.
[ + ] Wahaha
[ - ] Wahaha 1 point 1 monthMar 13, 2024 10:07:20 ago (+1/-0)
Distance to the moon: 384 400 km (238 855 miles)
Earth's atmosphere: 1 000 km (621 miles)
Satellites: 770 km (478 miles)
International "Space" Station: 350 km (217 miles)
There's quite a bit of variance for satellites, but I'm not aware of any that are outside Earth's atmosphere. They're used for things relating to Earth, so it makes sense for them to not be that far away. Not sure how the "Space" Station gets away with its name, though.
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones -3 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 10:23:01 ago (+0/-3)
becuase it is effectively space and "space" is only the layers and sky region above a certain point which, before certain discoveries only got defined as "that layer humans can no longer breathe at"
technically speaking, the moon is "within earths atmosphere", like i said, this is a rabbit hole, we would be here all day, it gets complicated.
[ + ] Wahaha
[ - ] Wahaha -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 19:39:20 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] the_old_ones
[ - ] the_old_ones -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 20:52:24 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] CasualObserver
[ - ] CasualObserver -1 points 1 monthMar 13, 2024 08:50:36 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] Wahaha
[ - ] Wahaha 1 point 1 monthMar 13, 2024 10:10:22 ago (+1/-0)