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Request for ranking by upvoats only (stops trolls and kikes from affecting listings by their downvote squads).

submitted by Crackinjokes to UpgoatDev 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 05:26:12 ago (+7/-0)     (UpgoatDev)

It should be an option.

Maybe even the default homepage showing.

I asked for this for years on Reddit when it was obvious that there were people who were trying to stop things from being seen but of course I was naive because Reddit actually was actively trying to stop things from being seen.

The idea of a downvote philosophically is that good-minded people will downvote things that are obviously inaccurate or wrong in some way. But what it's actually used for is by people who don't want other people to see things that are truthful.

If you think about it there really isn't any reason for down vote although I'm not saying to get rid of it. If people want to see the ranking based on the sum of upvotes versus downvotes for each post well that's fine. But if you really think about it there's no reason for downvotes.
What you really want to see is the topic or post that the most people have been excited about and upvoated. That won't happen for bad posts.
And you don't want half those people to be negated by professional Mossad trolls and kikes coming in here and trying to keep you from seeing that information.

It's become more and more common when I'll load the front page on "new" for new rankings that I see a bunch of good posts I'll have negative one as their votes. And that's just a sign that somebody is going through and downvoated a bunch of really good posts to try to keep them from getting momentum and rising to the top.


Now this is going to become more and more problematic is this place becomes more and more popular and it is. It's going to attract Mossad paid streetshitters to do this and it's going to attract Jewish trolls and they're going to try to do to this place what they did at reddit. And I don't want to argue about it fight about it. There's no reason not to give people the choice to see things right only by the number of upvotes without any consideration for the number of downvotes. Just give people the choice.

It's easy to modify the code and duplicate it so that there's an extra choice on the menu up there it says upvotes only and you take out the one portion of the code where it sums in the downvotes with the upvotes before doing the ranking.

I even did it for Reddit but they wouldn't incorporate it into the site because of course they wanted to be able to download stuff they didn't want people to see. Hell they probably had automatic algorithms working in the background that loaded things with down votes that they didn't want mentioned like jews.

Anyway this place hopefully isn't really trying to control the narrative by having a bunch of downvotes and letting Mossad run ripshod over this place.

So how about it?


17 comments block


[ - ] The_Reunto 3 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 10:57:18 ago (+3/-0)

Forum sliding works with upvotes too.

My hunch is that the actual voting behaviour is that some looks at a post, sees the then current rating. If they agree with the rating they will generally leave it alone. If they disagree with the rating they will generally add a vote to pull it back to the desired target.

For example, if someone felt the a post should be rated as neutral, they will upvote it if it is currently negative but leave it alone otherwise.

If some felt a post should be positive and it already is, chances are they will leave it alone unless they perceive a probability that people will downvote it in the near future.

This means that a high number of votes one way or the other actually encourages more voting. Some of the most interesting threads are the ones with a 0 average but +20/-20 tug-of-warring going on.

I'd say the additional sorting factor should be total number of votes overall rather than just by upvotes.

[ - ] TheYiddler 3 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 06:21:06 ago (+3/-0)

Downvotes are useful to hide spam and low effort content. Twitter lacks a dislike button and this results it low effort rather bait getting lots of likes and staying at the top of many people's feeds where they might like it and keep it there.

Original reddit and Upgoat are better than 4chan and Twitter because downvotes improve the signal to noise ratio. It was so good that reddit admins had to consistently ban truth tellers and dissolve their communities because when them they cheated by shadowbanning the Donald they couldn't suppress information without making it blatant.

Without downvotes this would be full of noise like Twitter.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 14:06:16 ago (+0/-0)

Fine you'll still have your choice to have them rank like they are now. Just give the rest of us the choice to have them ranked only by up votes. You can't possibly argue with that. The only real argument with that is somebody wants to control what's seen here. I made that argument on Reddit many times and there is no reasonable argument against offering that choice. It's just another ranking choice that's easy to implement.

[ - ] Sector2 0 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 12:59:49 ago (+0/-0)

More downvoting of the posts and comments by jews could have saved voat.

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 0 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 09:39:48 ago (+0/-0)

Or...

Just make the names of people who downvoated a main post be visible to everyone.

Make it a pop-up window, or a clickable link that lists them. Voaters can do what needs to be done after that.

[ - ] Conspirologist 0 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 10:39:48 ago (+1/-1)

Yes. It works on Poal. It's possible to see all the downvoting kike names.

[ - ] doginventer 0 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 08:48:45 ago (+0/-0)

I think an option to reverse the upvoat bias to a downvoat bias on the frontpage selection would be most useful.

Ultimately though I think the only way to keep things healthy is if everyone tries as much as possible to spend time scrolling through the ‘new’ submissions to see what is getting slid and mugged off.

[ - ] Deplorablepoetry 0 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 06:34:09 ago (+0/-0)

Down syndrome, one chromosome away from being popular on the internet

Lend me your ear and I’ll take your big jew nose as interest

Pay me a compliment is like a kick in the face…, I know how fucking awesome I am, really don’t need reminding.

Personally I dislike downvoating anything, thus I pretty much never use that tool………, unless

Like on old Voat and pReddit when I was top provider on both, ….destroyed both accounts with a stupid smile on my face…

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 10:03:37 ago (+0/-1)

Eh? This place literally has the head of the FBI posting here.

https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=65c542ea32498

I've been getting punitively targeted by downvotes here for three years. I'm proud of that. Don't take this away from me.

[ - ] VitaminSieg 0 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 13:24:45 ago (+0/-0)

Is Observation1 your schizo alt?

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 13:35:17 ago (+0/-0)*

No.

Edit: when you think about it a nick like Observation 1 would be something the head of the FBI would use. Like some kind of supervisory role among paid snoops.

[ - ] Conspirologist -3 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 05:32:59 ago (+1/-4)*

That's right. Downvotes exist only to hide posts. According to logic algorithm, if 1 positive upvote exists, then all the 0 become automatically negative, without downvoting. Therefore downvotes are not only useless, but also harmful, as they are being used to hide info. This means only upvotes are enough.

Unfortunately programmers have confused math algorithm with logic algorithmin in the beginning. This way now downvotes exist and are being used as censorship.

[ - ] dirtywhiteboy 5 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 08:09:14 ago (+5/-0)

hilarious opinion coming from you

downvoated.

[ - ] NoSalvation 2 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 09:31:08 ago (+2/-0)

i upvoted you, feels nice hm?

[ - ] dirtywhiteboy 2 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 09:33:59 ago (+2/-0)

i think a better sorting feature would be nice. would be cool to be able to see the most downvoated shit that ever happened on talklol

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 10, 2024 14:08:10 ago (+0/-0)

I do agree seeing the most downvoted would be very useful. That would be the stuff that they are really trying to hide

[ - ] Cunty 0 points 2 monthsMar 11, 2024 05:52:55 ago (+0/-0)

It would just be full of Neri threads, don't you think?.