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Cybertruck rusts out within a fortnight from regular use.

submitted by UncleDoug to cyberpunkreality 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 05:35:33 ago (+29/-1)     (files.catbox.moe)

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Cybertruck's are already rusting despite being stainless steel

StainLESS not StainPROOF, stainless steel is only corrosion resistant.

The Cybertruck owner said they washed to make sure the specs weren't just dirt, and since they stayed present on the metal, the owner booked a service appointment. According to the Cybertruck owner an individual at the facility said they have a "procedure/guidance for how to fix it, but they don't have the tools on hand, nor have they done this repair before." Notably, this Cybertruck owner had only clocked 381 miles on it during the 11 days they had it their custody.

Looking to Tesla's manual, it's stated the exterior of the vehicle is prone to corrosive damage that can be caused by "grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, far spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc

Almost all cars are made out of rolled carbon or stainless steel, then primed, painted with an acrylic polyurethane enamel, clear coated for the specific reason of reducing the environmental impact on the degradation of the material of choice.

Its painted that way so that it doesn't rust from stone chips, sand, sea breeze and bird shit ffs.

Is the world getting dumber? Did Tesla just pull a paper straw move?
*edit link above was a re-direct


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[ - ] MartinTimothy 7 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 05:56:41 ago (+8/-1)*

"This Cybertruck owner .. clocked 381 miles in 11 days.

I defy anyone to show me genuine corrosion of any sort in what is virtually brand new stainless steel .. sounds like the owner is manufacturing problems to mask what could be "buyer's remorse" maybe, they don't give these things away they cost a lot of money, sure they look ok in the catalog and it is easy to get dazzled, but once the purchase has been made doubt can set in ..

[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 9 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 06:11:46 ago (+9/-0)

It is reputed that Tesla uses 301 stainless steel, and 304 is what is used for average grade cutlery.

301(Stainless Steel - Grade 301 (UNS S30100)

Chemical Formula
Fe, <0.15%C, 16-18%Cr, 6-8%Ni, <2%Mn, <1%Si, <0.045%P, <0.03%S|

Grade 301 austenitic stainless has more carbon content 0.15% compared to 304's 0.08% by weight.

Pitting resistance of 301 is pitiful, pun intended

It's slightly better than the steel they use to manufacture dog bowls and dog bowls rust when the dog smashes its teeth into it, or the dog doesn't lick it clean.

I defy anyone to show me genuine corrosion of any sort in what is virtually brand new stainless steel

Are you messing with me? Different formulas of stainless steel have different properties, there isn't one recipe for stainless steel. Stainless steel as the name implies means it is only rust resistant.

[ - ] Xantha 3 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 06:34:38 ago (+3/-0)

Depending on where you are, you can also get rust dust/surface contamination from the environment, old steel mill towns/railyards, etc. However, Tesla probably uses some cheapo 'proprietary' stainless steel. It's probably mostly stainless, but not always. EAFs/Electric Arc Furnaces in the US use tons of recycled materials, which means you're going to have some wide variations in chemistry of the steel and tons of inclusions of things you dont want in there. Given that these are massive highly visible 'stainless' steel panels, any imperfections are going to be super obvious--- which is why you really wouldn't want to use uncoated stainless steel made from recyclates this way. IMO this terri-bad design should have at least be clear-coated, just to avoid dealing with the bad PR if nothing else.

But also these people bought super unsustainable (mmm taste the lithium) overpriced EVs, so they're also getting what they deserve. Can't wait to hear about the complete shitshow these trucks will cause in 10 years when all the batteries finally crap out and no one wants to pay 30K for a new battery pack for their 10 year old truck.

[ - ] FacelessOne 4 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 09:16:30 ago (+4/-0)

10 years? 3-5 tops.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 19:56:07 ago (+0/-0)

$30k? That battery pack will be $60k in 3 years, $200k in 10 years - at the rate the current USSA commie tyrants are debasing the currency.

[ - ] Lezbollah 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 09:44:51 ago (+2/-0)

I have 4 stainless dog bowls and none of them have rusted in 5 years. Two sit on wet ground in the shade of an oak tree, one sits uncovered near my duck pond, and one contains water 24/7. All are good as new in locations that would rust a drill bit in 24 hours.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 10:03:23 ago (+1/-0)

Driving =/= sitting in the shade.

[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 15:42:38 ago (+0/-0)

You didn't read the same comment the rest of us did?

[ - ] dassar 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:37:27 ago (+2/-0)

'Wait ???. There is carbon in muh stainless steel cybertruck - i want carbon-free - reeeee!!'

[ - ] MartinTimothy -4 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 06:22:58 ago (+0/-4)

Are you messing with me.

Now why would I want to "mess" with a wukfit like you ..

[ - ] dassar 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:39:54 ago (+0/-0)

Because you're a fembot meat-suit that spams endless contro-agi prop nonsense from gatekeeping sites.

[ - ] chrimony 4 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 11:05:40 ago (+4/-0)

sure they look ok in the catalog and it is easy to get dazzled

They've always looked like a joke to me. Like who thought a low-polygon cyperpunk car from 80s science fiction would be cool in real life? Oh, Elon Musk did, the guy who bought Twitter and renamed it to "X".

[ - ] MuricaPersonified 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 12:50:18 ago (+0/-0)

Remember this picture? Elon Musk doesn't want you to. His tastes in style have not improved.

I appreciate the Cybertruck's profile in a way; it's like a lonely kid ran into a boatload of money and scaled up his favorite 80s Hot Wheels toy into a drivable toy.

[ - ] dassar 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:44:11 ago (+0/-0)

Isnt that some young musk Halloween costume picture ?.
The clown dresses up for it every year.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 09:15:01 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Sector2 5 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 11:30:39 ago (+5/-0)

That's not rust, it's patina.

[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:34:45 ago (+1/-0)

Patina IS oxidisation, iron oxidisation is specifically called rust.

[ - ] Sector2 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:35:58 ago (+1/-0)

Yes. :)

[ - ] dassar 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:42:14 ago (+1/-0)

As my local small lot car dealer would say 'That's Value-added appreciation my man!'

[ - ] SilentByAssociation 4 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 11:24:55 ago (+4/-0)

Well how else do you expect the future to look so dystopic? It'll be the present before you know it!

[ - ] germ22 4 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 08:42:20 ago (+4/-0)

There are dozens of different "stainless Steel" alloys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_steel_grades
Depending on which alloy is used, it may or may not develop corrosion. For the truck, it may develop a thin film of rust, and then stay like that indefinitely, making the truck brown. That thin layer of rust might be the long term corrosion protection as it doesn't let any more oxygen through that layer of rust, protecting the base layer. That would be a dumb choice of alloy for a vehicle.

[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 08:58:18 ago (+2/-0)

There are dozens of different "stainless Steel" alloy

Hundreds of formulas.

Depending on which alloy is used, it may or may not develop corrosion

> That thin layer of rust might be the long term corrosion protection

They all corrode, just at different rates, but high corossion resistant metals might not be applicable for annealment and shaping.

300 and 400 is what class most would use for this application. Tesla specifically uses 301.

If you want to get into steel nerd metallurgy, try sites like knifeinformer, knifesteelnerds and bladeHQ, they have a larger aperture of steel formula breakdowns and their applications. All oxidisations of metals are bad, they all corrode the metal. Iron can be have limited protection with Blackoxide as its anaerobic as opposed to red oxidisation.

Even the patina on copper oxidising (going green) is Cupric oxide which is only an inhibitor. At any stage if you have oxidisation of metal, its decaying. Even Titanium does this too, it just takes a massive amount of time to corrode, whereas most steel decays much quicker, hence painting the alloy to protect it from water and tiny chips allowing water/atmosphere to get in and oxidise it.

[ - ] FacelessOne 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 09:17:26 ago (+2/-0)

Shoulda gone with Brass

[ - ] Anus_Expander 5 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 10:01:49 ago (+5/-0)

Gold, which does not oxidize, is clearly the better choice

[ - ] dassar 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:49:05 ago (+2/-0)

Laboratory created/ Factory CNC Diamond -'The World's first Cyber-truck You can literally see through !!'.

[ - ] TomMacdonald 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 10:00:16 ago (+1/-0)

Chinese Ar500

[ - ] mikenigger 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:35:42 ago (+1/-0)

If you want to get into steel nerd metallurgy, try sites like knifeinformer, knifesteelnerds and bladeHQ

When you were partying, I studied the blade

[ - ] germ22 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 09:26:09 ago (+0/-0)

Hundreds..? So at least five? ;)
If I remember correctly, the only metal that never corrodes is Gold. Always wondered if you could make s steel alloy using small amounts of gold for corrosion resistance. Asked a few engineers about it but never got a straight answer.
Just read somewhere it's some sort of modified version of 301. 30X, because everything is X with Musk.

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 09:49:05 ago (+1/-0)

You would have to mix in gold and aluminum to really make it work.

[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:38:02 ago (+1/-0)

If I remember correctly, the only metal that never corrodes is Gold.

There are nine noble metals that don't oxidise.

[ - ] HeavyBrain 3 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 07:05:12 ago (+3/-0)

Chinese "stainless" "steal", the chinks make even harden 90s russian gangsters cry with their busniess tactics.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 10:06:49 ago (+0/-0)

That's what I'm going with. There are plenty of DeLoreans running around these days. Wonder where each brand got their metal from?

China is well-known for its poor quality metals. Sure, the top sheet will pass inspections, but the rest sure won't.

[ - ] HeavyBrain 0 points 2 monthsFeb 16, 2024 05:24:07 ago (+0/-0)

Basically what I heard is that if they deliver you something that at least somewhat resembles whats in the contract, the courts won't do shit. (also chink nationalism against the white longnose pigs)

So yeah if you ordered steel is steel and you got steel of the quantity you wanted so fuck of white boi.

[ - ] mikenigger 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:20:34 ago (+2/-0)

REAL stainless has never been tried

[ - ] Scyber 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 14:47:16 ago (+2/-0)

A truck that's just as soft and prissy as the smug faggots who buy one.

[ - ] Endo_Aryan 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 14:29:52 ago (+2/-0)

I saw one driving IRL and the rear lift gate had fingerprints all over it and smudges everywhere. It shows everything. California plates. Not expensive - looking at all. Poor sucker lost 80k on a refrigerator on wheels.

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 09:47:36 ago (+2/-0)

lol anybody who bought that shit deserves everything they get. They could've made a practical vehicle and instead make an ugly vehicle that is way too big. As far as stainless steel rust? They mix that shit so it won't last. They know what they're doing. Its why Toyotas rot to the ground. You can't make something that lasts forever because you won't make max shekel.

[ - ] Sal_180 2 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 05:46:57 ago (+2/-0)

Anyone dumb enough to buy one deserves it

[ - ] mikenigger 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:16:05 ago (+1/-0)

elona muskovich: 304 steel was too expensive

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:10:49 ago (+1/-0)*

Deloreans were accused of the same thing, it had to do with the way they were cleaned at some point post production leaving carbon traces across the surface and particularly along seams. Given a solid once-over with the appropriate steel wool or other cleaning products, the issue should resolve itself.

[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 15:53:14 ago (+1/-0)*

The trucks are made from the same 301 alloy steel that Starship is made out of.
The cybertruck is made out of this steel because Starbase bought a steel plant specifically for making this proprietary steel for Starship. So, might as well use it to make steel for Cyber Trucks too.
Starbase is LITERALLY 50 meters from the ocean.
Its the most corrosive place you can park the largest non-nuclear bomb in the world.
So, if all the rocket scientists are saying "It's OK to make this missile out of this steel and park it in corrosionville", well, the trucks are probably fine.
It's probably an issue between the interface of the Cybertruck seat and steering wheel.

[ - ] mikenigger 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:22:19 ago (+1/-0)

The trucks are made from the same 301 alloy steel that Starship is made out of.

no.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:56:38 ago (+0/-0)

OK, If you say so.
Guy on the internet said no, so it must be no.

[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 2 monthsFeb 16, 2024 02:24:49 ago (+0/-0)

i mean you're wrong on many counts, starship moved to 304L and they don't own any steel plants

[ - ] lolxd 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 12:03:21 ago (+1/-0)

Most of the buyers are near saltwater, and salt in the air will rust all metals even faster. That's why they have marine grade 314, but even then it still rusts.

[ - ] TomMacdonald 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 09:58:44 ago (+1/-0)

Aren't you supposed to clean the stainless before use. And keep it covered when not using. Like a BBQ grill

[ - ] dassar 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 16:54:06 ago (+1/-0)

LOl, new user memorandum 'Owners are now advised to oil and rub down their Cyber truck before and after daily use.'

[ - ] mikenigger 1 point 2 monthsFeb 16, 2024 02:22:57 ago (+1/-0)

"it rubs the oil on its skin or it gets the rust again"

[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 07:22:41 ago (+1/-0)

'rusts out' = develops a few spots

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 2 monthsFeb 15, 2024 14:18:27 ago (+0/-0)

It seems like a Delorean
Some people will love it , but to most people it would never be worth the hassle