Now, the secret is out! After environmental groups pointed out the illegality of this charade, the Energy Department proposed eliminating the 6.67 efficiency multiplier for electric cars, recognizing that the number “lacks legal support,” and has “no basis.” Let’s not mince words -- this has a direct impact on a subsidy that indirectly and illegally taxes YOU, the people. Your taxes dollars are going directly into the pockets of these corporations for falsely complying arbitrarily set standards. Remember, you are the one paying for these subsidies.
If you have a basic understanding of math, physics, and electronics, these sorts of things are blatantly obvious. A simple statistics 101 class would open many people's eyes. Assuming they could do the math in the first place.
Im wondering if hybrids are still worth it or also a scam. The idea of a self-charging battery that only works in low speeds and can be turned off at a whim sounds useful in high transit cities.
Yeah a plug in hybrid is not bad. Especially if you drive short distances to work because starting your engine for only short periods will cause problems down the road because it never reaches operating temperature.
My wife and I just finished a 900 mile trip in her Tesla Y. MPG equivalent was 122MPG. Average speed was 70mph. Note that is a somewhat erroneous statement by me. Let me explain: The first sentence is true, however when an ICE (internal combustion engine) car sits, it sits and uses no fuel. When an ice storm hits a tesla, it can use up to 20% of a charge in 3 days just shivering in your driveway not going anywhere.
Hai! Toyota look like genius's now. As an aside, I have a hybrid Corolla. MPG, when being driven, dropped from 59MPG to 46MPG in this recent cold front/ice storm.
The Prius had a groundbreaking drivetrain. It's a good car. Anyone who's driven one knows it's not truly battery powered. The battery is merely there as an accumulator for about 1/2 mile of driving energy. It's actually just a support system for the mechanical-electric CVT and regenerative brakes, which is where the car gets all its efficiency gains. Toyota did the engineering work early and got it right before anyone else even started. They know what they're doing.
I don't know about this and I don't think tax payers should be paying any subsidies to electric cars and they certainly have their issues BUT the math shows that you can move a Tesla about 5 times the distance of a comparable gas powered car for the same amount of energy.
I don't personally drive an ev because it takes too long to charge and when the battery dies, it's too expensive to replace.
Comparison of Energy Consumption for Traveling 495 Miles
Mid-Size Car with 18-Gallon Fuel Tank: - Fuel Tank Capacity: 18 gallons - Travel Distance: 495 miles - Energy Content of Gasoline: 114,000 BTUs per gallon - Total Energy Consumption: - Calculation: 18 gallons x 114,000 BTUs/gallon - Result: 2,052,000 BTUs - Conclusion: The mid-size car can travel 495 miles on 18 gallons of gasoline, equating to a total energy consumption of 2,052,000 BTUs.
Tesla Model 3 Long Range with 75 kWh Battery: - Battery Capacity: 75 kWh - Range per Charge: 310 miles - Number of Charges Required for 495 Miles: - Calculation: 495 miles / 310 miles per charge - Result: Approximately 1.60 charges - Charging Power: 135 kW - Charging Time for Full Charge: - Calculation: 75 kWh / 135 kW = 0.56 hours - Charging Time for 495 Miles: - Calculation: 1.60 charges x 0.56 hours/charge = 0.9 hours - Result: Approximately 0.9 hours for 495 miles - Total Energy Consumption: - Calculation for kWh: 0.9 hours x 135 kW = 121.5 kWh - Conversion to BTUs: 121.5 kWh x 3,412 BTUs/kWh = 414,558 BTUs - Result: 414,558 BTUs - Conclusion: To travel 495 miles, the Tesla Model 3 Long Range requires approximately 1.60 charges at a 135 kW charging rate, resulting in a total energy consumption of about 414,558 BTUs and a total charging time of approximately 0.9 hours.
I saw posts in an online forum recently where a Japanese auto manufacturer that sells cars in America under a widely recognized nameplate is fucking their EV owners by not honoring their EV battery warranty! These people bought their cars because of that warranty, and this manufacturer is hanging their customers out to dry. They're offering a "buyout", which means you have to spend additional monies if you want to replace that piece of shit that they sold you!
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 5 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 10:16:25 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer2
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 15:38:10 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 20:50:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 4 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 11:23:05 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 23:29:59 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 22, 2024 01:06:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 22, 2024 23:04:25 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 23, 2024 10:56:21 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 3 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 09:31:21 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 6 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 10:23:37 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] Spaulding
[ - ] Spaulding 3 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 15:44:30 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 22, 2024 23:06:03 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Moravian
[ - ] Moravian 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 13:03:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 2 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 11:23:52 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 20:51:37 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 2 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 10:20:47 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Laputois
[ - ] Laputois 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 14:21:19 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 2 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 09:25:44 ago (+2/-0)*
[ + ] VitaminSieg
[ - ] VitaminSieg 3 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 12:18:35 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Deplorablepoetry
[ - ] Deplorablepoetry 2 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 09:22:08 ago (+2/-0)
All that one needs to do is look at Toyota. They have been the leaders in battery powered/assisted cars for a long time, see Prius.
Toyota has said they are not going to attempt to change to EV .., this fad/scam will die like a depleted AA battery
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 4 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 09:31:48 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] TheGreatWar
[ - ] TheGreatWar 1 point 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 17:33:05 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] canbot
[ - ] canbot 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 21:03:07 ago (+0/-0)
This post is stupid, emotional manipulation.
The headline is a lie. There was no scam revealed here.
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 20:48:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] rzr97
[ - ] rzr97 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 19:34:44 ago (+0/-0)
I don't personally drive an ev because it takes too long to charge and when the battery dies, it's too expensive to replace.
Comparison of Energy Consumption for Traveling 495 Miles
Mid-Size Car with 18-Gallon Fuel Tank:
- Fuel Tank Capacity: 18 gallons
- Travel Distance: 495 miles
- Energy Content of Gasoline: 114,000 BTUs per gallon
- Total Energy Consumption:
- Calculation: 18 gallons x 114,000 BTUs/gallon
- Result: 2,052,000 BTUs
- Conclusion: The mid-size car can travel 495 miles on 18 gallons of gasoline, equating to a total energy consumption of 2,052,000 BTUs.
Tesla Model 3 Long Range with 75 kWh Battery:
- Battery Capacity: 75 kWh
- Range per Charge: 310 miles
- Number of Charges Required for 495 Miles:
- Calculation: 495 miles / 310 miles per charge
- Result: Approximately 1.60 charges
- Charging Power: 135 kW
- Charging Time for Full Charge:
- Calculation: 75 kWh / 135 kW = 0.56 hours
- Charging Time for 495 Miles:
- Calculation: 1.60 charges x 0.56 hours/charge = 0.9 hours
- Result: Approximately 0.9 hours for 495 miles
- Total Energy Consumption:
- Calculation for kWh: 0.9 hours x 135 kW = 121.5 kWh
- Conversion to BTUs: 121.5 kWh x 3,412 BTUs/kWh = 414,558 BTUs
- Result: 414,558 BTUs
- Conclusion: To travel 495 miles, the Tesla Model 3 Long Range requires approximately 1.60 charges at a 135 kW charging rate, resulting in a total energy consumption of about 414,558 BTUs and a total charging time of approximately 0.9 hours.
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 16:38:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 21, 2024 15:50:57 ago (+0/-0)
She only lasted 4 words.