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It's important to recognize that the reason National socialists chose the swastika is their symbol was it was the symbol of peace and prosperity. They chose the color red because it was the color of the Communist and they wanted to attract people to their party who would otherwise join the communist

submitted by Crackinjokes to politics 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 18:31:14 ago (+25/-1)     (politics)

It's important to recognize that the reason National socialists chose the swastika is their symbol was it was the symbol of peace and prosperity. They chose the color red because it was the color of the Communist and they wanted to attract people to their party who would otherwise join the communist party.

Hitler was clever.

With this logic the new symbol of a new nationalist party should be the peace symbol with the color green.

It's a huge mistake to run around with a Nazi flag and the red color because that has a completely different meaning now than it did when Hitler in the National socialist adopted it.

If you want to go back to the strategy that worked you need a symbol that's peaceful and you need a color that aligns with the youth today and no color lines like green and no symbol is more peaceful than the peace sign.


If you want to attract people to a new nationalist party that's what you do. If you want to stick your hand in their face and flaunt things and never achieve anything politically then you run around with a flag that has been taught to be evil.

It doesn't matter whether it is correct or not. It only matters what the youth thinks today.

And today they think the swastika is evil and the color red is bad. And they think the peace symbol is great and the color green is great. So if you want to attract people to your party and actually get political support that's what you use.


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[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 6 points 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 18:48:27 ago (+6/-0)

Red is a power color. Red ties are a thing in business.

[ - ] the_old_ones 4 points 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 19:06:27 ago (+4/-0)

it's a good time for me to bring this chart out

https://files.catbox.moe/21qrae.jpeg

[ - ] No_way_oy_vey 3 points 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 20:01:06 ago (+3/-0)

Warren Balogh made a good point about optics. He decided that at no point should we be misleading people, pretending to just be edgier-than-normal conservatives and gathering widespread support via a watered-down message.

For one, your supporters will feel tricked if you reveal that you are the real deal, or two, you end up compromising and watering down your positions.

However, to your point, it is unfortunate that we've allowed jews to shackle our minds so intensely through mass media to the point where we feel we have to abandon our symbols and positions. I don't see how a new symbol will help, as soon as it gains traction they will give it the same treatment.

[ - ] taoV 2 points 4 monthsJan 12, 2024 05:40:26 ago (+2/-0)

This is a good line of thinking, I especially agree that green is ready for a reinterpretation in the political sphere (concern for the homeland/soil is not too distant from environemntalism).

You would have to overcome the existing baggage of the peace symbol though. Any time you do something not-perfectly-peaceful, and there will be a lot of them, you're vulnerable to Rule for Radicals #4, make them follow their own rules.

Some new symbol that clearly suggests peace might be a better idea. My suggestion would be an open palm in white, green background, maybe with something in the hand, to contrast with the violent image of the clenched nigger fist of BLM/communists.

Inspiration, rational, outreach:
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/13/5f/13/135f13204ed2b803ab63c8af3034382a.jpg

[ - ] yesiknow 2 points 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 20:51:22 ago (+2/-0)

Of course it's a huge mistake to wave nazi crap around. That's why the jews and their other fucktard globalist arch fiends seeded the internet with that shit.

If you look at the age demograph graph here;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

You get your target. But you can't alienate the others. What does a 60 year old want? If they're liberal women they want to think they have personal power over others. If they're liberal men they want the women around them want.

[ - ] foxtrot45 2 points 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 19:48:45 ago (+2/-0)

Its stolen identity. Just like how the jews are not the jews in the Bible. Just like how those in Ukraine with all the Tats working undrer Zelinskys command are not national socialists. But lets continue calling everyone who disagrees a terrorist and add label axis of evil. As far as I know art student Adolf came up with the design.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 2 points 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 19:45:56 ago (+2/-0)

One of your better thoughts mate. Although I believe the swastika was chosen due to its attachment to the volkitsch movement.

[ - ] 4thTurning 1 point 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 23:14:08 ago (+1/-0)

The Confederate battle flag is also red because traditionally the color red means call to action. Call to arms.

A new nationalist party could use the eagle as the flag. On a blue sky background.

An angry eagle. A do not fuck with me eagle.

[ - ] PhantomXLII 1 point 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 21:29:38 ago (+2/-1)

They chose the HAKENKREUZ because it worked as a symbol of a revitalized Christian state.

[ - ] Jinglebanger 1 point 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 21:15:57 ago (+1/-0)

That's a hell of a rant.

But related, the nazi salute was originally a symbol of peace. If you'll look at early rally videos, you'll see people tend to hold their hand more loosely, with fingers outstretched, as opposed to a knifehand. I forget the details, but Hitler saw it as a greeting which showed the saluter came in peace, was unarmed, and desired contact.

Himmler eventually turned it into the salute we think of today during the militarization of the NSDAP.

[ - ] dassar 1 point 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 19:56:23 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] Deplorablepoetry 0 points 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 19:51:59 ago (+1/-1)

Red, has and always will represent BLOOD on any flag.

Green is a Palestinian thing…, and Italy and Ireland..three lands with little in common other than far too many shitskins

Black like on the German flag once represented solidarity/brotherhood

Rally around the IRON CROSS.., it has more meaning than any colourful flag

[ - ] PhantomXLII 1 point 4 monthsJan 11, 2024 21:33:49 ago (+1/-0)

Templars and Hospitaliers had pretty great flags IMO. Powerful but "crisp" at the same time.

[ - ] JewsAintHonkies -1 points 4 monthsJan 12, 2024 10:52:39 ago (+0/-1)

They stole the swastika and the name Aryan from India. Dumb lazy crackers can’t even make up their own hate symbols! Master race? More like disaster race. There is not a single crime in human history for which white heterosexual gentile supremacy and imperialism is not the root cause. Not a single solitary one.