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[ - ] WanderingToast 13 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 13:56:11 ago (+13/-0)

So...
Start with 18million.
6.2 million registered as refugees in Europe.

Leaves 12million, of which 1.1 million dead....

So basically 1 in 10 dead.

Ukraine has literally been decimated

[ - ] Nosferatjew 3 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 14:14:58 ago (+3/-0)

Again

[ - ] WanderingToast 2 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 16:28:29 ago (+2/-0)

Hold the door!

what?!

[ - ] Sector2 1 point 5 monthsNov 28, 2023 00:55:23 ago (+1/-0)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/cjgPZ2oAMEDF/ - MR. JONES - THE HOLODOMOR - STARVATION OF MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS IN UKRAINE (2019)

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 18:57:44 ago (+1/-0)

Seynd moar tayx peyor munnie?!

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 6 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 12:57:48 ago (+6/-0)

JEW MEDIA SILENT !!!


Ukrainian conscripts are just being conveyor-belted into a meat grinder.

[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 4 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 14:27:27 ago (+5/-1)*

starting in 2019, a depop series of events were being rolled out all over the planet. the shots, this war and the levantine event are tied all together. expect more because a whore is never satisfied

nope i dont expect world war since it will affect them. i expect small events like these popping up all over the place (while the idiots will be getting the latest CONvid vaxx)

[ - ] deleted 2 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 18:47:35 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Inward 1 point 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 19:33:11 ago (+1/-0)

There was a video embedded in the story ( https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/47th_afu_avdeevka_losses:1 ) that has some bad translations but in them they talk about fighting jews. Can anyone shed light on the translation and why they would discuss jews.

One other thing, why the bright blue tape on camo? Are these guys playing airsoft?

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 1 point 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 13:09:53 ago (+3/-2)

That's one way to get rid of all the white Christians of ukraine. They did it! Now jewlinski's wetdream of creating israel 2.0 is in sight.

[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 2 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 14:24:19 ago (+2/-0)

That's one way to get rid of all the white Christians of ukraine.

there are no niggers in the ukraine though they have lots of jews , same as russia.

but you are correct, this "war" was a two blow type of war. decimate the white christian population and divert attention from vaxx deaths.

same with the fake little war in the levant. dont look here, look there, squirrel!

(netanyahoo had a criminal indictment before this event started and the populace was growing weary of him, luck that the (((hamas))) came to his rescue while the southern israeli command was ordered to stand down for 9 hrs!! how fortutious. wag the dog they say)

[ - ] Kozel 2 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 17:42:38 ago (+2/-0)

Are non-christians are exempted from the draft?

No.

So the focus then is demonstrably not on Christians, but on Whites (Slavs). Them being Christian is happenstance.

[ - ] beece [op] -1 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 19:51:08 ago (+0/-1)

As I understand it Kozel, every jew that could leave, did. They all moved to Israel when Russia invaded. Over 20,000 was the early estimate I read.

[ - ] Kozel -1 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 20:11:58 ago (+0/-1)

You are using a fallacy to conflate being non-Christian with being a kike.

If you intend to speak with me again you will do so without resorting to logical fallacies or other judaic debate tactics.

[ - ] Trickthegoyim 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 23:07:00 ago (+0/-0)

This is so retarded the zionist gateway pundit is pro-russian (super motivated to provide misinfo on this) is not a good source then secondly the russians have motivation to exagerate Ukrainian casualties but they say only 50,000 dead Ukrainians recently.

This is so blatantly false I won't bother wasting more time explaining it

[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior -1 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 14:34:56 ago (+0/-1)

There's no way that can be true. Not in such a small regional conflict. You definitely would have seen video and evidence to support that figure, but we haven't. Just a few dead Ukrainians here and there.

Perspective:
407,000 US troops killed in WW2

58,000 US troops killed during the Vietnam war. 1965-1974


USSR troops killed in WW2 1941-1945 8.7 million. <-- oof. But that was a massive war against the best military in the world.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 4 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 14:48:44 ago (+4/-0)

It's true, you are just misinformed. The Russians kill Ukrainians all day - their goal is to chew up their military. The fact that Ukraine keeps sending more and more at them changes nothing. While idiots talk about the map they ignore that Russia are the world's most professional and experienced military and who are all business. They have a list of how many people and machines need to be destroyed and they go through the list methodically. The way Ukraine's side has fought the war guarantees massive casualty numbers. This is the suicide by cop, on a national scale.

[ - ] RobertJHarsh 2 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 15:10:41 ago (+2/-0)

This ^^^. Any Ukie soldier should be able to understand this. EASILY. What I don't get it why they keep fighting. They know the Russians will win.

[ - ] RepublicanNerd 1 point 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 16:48:12 ago (+1/-0)

Just like the UK population Ukrainies are brainwashed into believing everything lord zelensky says

[ - ] dassar 0 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2023 02:21:48 ago (+0/-0)

Plus It's well know since the middle of this year The ukraine Military literally puts blocking units of nationalist banderites behind the cannon fodder troops on the front lines to prevent mass withdraws, with orders to shoot on sight. The entire country is under a quasi-military law with blood thirsting nationalists in charge (taking orders at the very top from the tribe).

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 15:20:18 ago (+2/-2)

You're a Russtard. Russia has been getting chewed up too. This is a brother war. Both sides are losing.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 5 monthsNov 27, 2023 18:49:49 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2023 17:36:33 ago (+0/-0)

when the fighting is done and the real kill ratios come out you're not going to fucking believe it, because you're an easy mark who got played.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2023 17:46:24 ago (+0/-0)

Ok, Russtard. Just ignore all the confirmed losses, the need for a draft, the need to empty prisons, etc. The loss in territorial gains. The stalemate.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2023 17:47:23 ago (+0/-0)

the confirmed losses are around 40k. it's probably at least 50, maybe 60. Will go up as they do more offensive action. Ukraine reports their own losses at 1.1 million.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2023 18:10:54 ago (+0/-0)

Wagner alone reported 20,000 fatalities taking Bakhmut. And that's just fatalities for one battle. Now throw in all the other battles, and all the injuries. Was this brother war worth it? And that's just the body count. Russia has lost billions in material, has new NATO members on their border, and any peace agreement will result in a highly militarized Ukraine without the ethnic Russian hump, unified in their hatred for Russia.

And I highly doubt the 1+ million figure given by the Ukrainian TV station. News gets shit wrong all the time.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2023 18:33:41 ago (+0/-0)

That's Wagner, who were fired for using those tactics, and were not the Russian Army. Also that was a six-month long battle with the most deadly tactics. It is not surprising that it would make up a large percentage of losses. You also can't prove 20k, it could be half that we don't know.

Russia is booming and has production capacity beyond the entire West. This war has revitalized several industries and their economy is growing so fast they're trying to slow it down. They've been innovating so quickly that after the war these tech advancements will enable them to leapfrog everyone in a variety of technical industries. NATO is no longer a threat, Russia can see without any doubt that they can handle them. The Ukranian land they've reclaimed is worth trillions in the hands of proper managers, like the Russians. Their total population has already increased by over 10 million as a result of the SMO.

The 1.1 million figure wasn't made up and is supported by earlier rumors from mobile phone companies about having a million "dead sim cards." It's further supported by the drastic new recruiting policies where they are sending women to the trenches, calling up 70 year olds, crazy people, amputees, etc. That's obvious desperation, meaning they've burned through a huge number of soldiers. Ukraine claimed an army of 1 million at the start. Russia has a 10-1 artillery advantage for the entire war and now it's basically an infinite advantage. Artillery kills the most soldiers in war.

Every single data point that is real confirms that Russian losses are in the 50k range and Ukrainian are at least 500k, probably double. Russian has won this war not only against Ukraine but against all of NATO, and has profited in the process. It's the biggest BTFO in a century and as soon as the fighting ends the world will be permanently reshaped.

[ - ] chrimony -1 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2023 22:00:54 ago (+0/-1)

That's Wagner, who were fired for using those tactics

Wow, the retard is strong in this one. Wagner were considered heroes by the Russians for taking Bakhmut, almost certainly on the insistence of Russian command for a political win. Wagner wasn't "fired", they were told to become part of the military because their leader was making loud demands and accusations against the military proper. And then they went rogue, threatening a coup.

Also that was a six-month long battle with the most deadly tactics.

And what is Russia doing most recently in their efforts to take Avdiivka? Same thing. They started out by losing tons of armored vehicles. Then they switched to throwing human meat waves at it. But you probably watch "Military Summary", and all you see is videos about the imminent "Fall".

Will they eventually take it like they eventually took Bakhmut? Maybe, but they will have paid dearly for it.

You also can't prove 20k

Just like you cant prove the 1 million. Except the 20k figure came straight from the commander's mouth, instead of a TV station.

Russia is booming and has production capacity beyond the entire West.

Russtard is delusional. Russia buys drones from Iran and recently bought like a million shells from N. Korea, because they can't meet demand and burn rate.

NATO is no longer a threat, Russia can see without any doubt that they can handle them.

Lulz, what a Russtard! They can't even take Ukraine. Russia has lost ALL prestige. Even if this war ended now, they're going to be spending the next decade licking their wounds and rebuilding reserves. Russia was never going to be invaded by NATO. All this war was bring NATO closer to their borders, force the West to re-arm, and make sure that the remains of Ukraine will be even more militarized and united against Russia. Not only did Putin fail on every one of his stated objectives, he made the situation worse.

The 1.1 million figure wasn't made up and is supported by earlier rumors

Yeah, I'm sure the rumors you hear from the pro-Russian military outlets you visit are totally reliable.

Russia has a 10-1 artillery advantage for the entire war

Complete bullshit. At the start, yes. But they burned through vast amounts of it indiscriminately, per their doctrine, and were on relative parity recently. That's why they were force to buy from N. Korea.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 5 monthsNov 28, 2023 22:24:26 ago (+0/-0)

Wagner paid a PR firm to make you think they were heroes. The Russian military was very upset with them - they weren't supposed to take Bakhmut and caused a lot of problems in doing so. There's a reason Wagner is dissolved, the two heads are dead, and the entire thing is a memory. Taking the words of Prigozhin seriously are foolish. Maybe 20k of his people did die, who knows for sure. They were not Russian Army and that can't be used as a measuring device to estimate casualties in the Russian force.

Regarding Avdiivka I'm not following it closely but the consensus is that Russia is making faster progress than expected. They can afford to lose tanks, they have thousands of them. That's what they're for! Losing equipment is only a problem when you can't replace it, which is why it's such an issue for Ukraine/NATO.

Russian production is not a secret, there are videos of the factories with hundreds of drones visible. They didn't buy shells from North Korea, it appears they subcontracted shell production to NK. They send all of the materials and they are built in NK factory. The reason Russia does this is because their economy is at full employment and their biggest challenge is having enough people to work. Putin is making similar deals for non-military production throughout Central Asia in the last few weeks. This is what booming economies do, and is not a symptom of weakness by any stretch.

Russia's army is by any objective measure much stronger today than it was two years ago. I don't know what you're reading but it's clearly of low quality. Russia's recruitment success, expanded permanent army size, production, etc, are all public record and you can read about it all over the place. Their weapons have performed extremely well in real life, whereas NATO weapons have all been exposed as LARP's. This means Russia is about to have an enormous boom in their export market, something which has already begun. They just sent a bunch of fighter jets to Iran, top of the line shit.

NATO close to their borders no longer matters. NATO cannot defeat Russia in a fight, that's what has been proven over the last two years. Do try and keep up.

The artillery advantage isn't bullshit at all, it's a fact. You can find people on every side of this war talking about their artillery onslaughts. The Ukrainians and US military were claiming Russia had a huge advantage in volume last summer, it's not a theory it's a consensus fact. The only claims I hear made are that NATO has some longer range artillery models than Russia, which is meaningless if they can't be maintained, which is what Ukrainian soldiers have reported is a problem in major western press over the past two weeks. They say the barrels are worn out and they only fire a handful of shells PER DAY. Meanwhile, Russia continues bombarding at will, and has no shortage of artillery pieces or shells. This is because they have huge factories producing pieces and shells in volumes far beyond the capability of the US and Europe combined. This is easy to verify.

Finally, buying shells from NK, which isn't how it went down, is not a problem. If NK had a million laying around Russia would be dumb not to buy them. If they bought shells from NK, which definitely has a shit ton, then how would that support the argument that Russia is low on shells? The entire story was initially concocted as a cover story so people didn't notice the US was buying shells from South Korea, but I bet you don't know about that.

Regardless of media lies and war propaganda, it's a fact that Ukraine cannot maintain artillery firing levels on the lines and no one with any credibility claims as much. Add in Russia's air dominance (how many Ukrainian fighter jets did they shoot down last month?) and things become much more clear.

Russia has been winning the entire time and are now on the brink of totally overrunning what's left of Ukraine's military. You've been lied to, endlessly, in large volume, and you bought it.