Tolkien was a British partisan. Germans and British mistrusted each other a lot. He probably thought German sounds ugly, and I wouldn't be surprised if he based the black speech on it.
Tolkien was also something of a linguist. He was fascinated by language. It would come as no surprise if he used elements of the German language for the antagonists in his stories, just as he used elements of other languages for other groups. It's no secret that he taught himself Finnish, and used that language as the basis for "Elvish".
Fascinating what a literary genius can accomplish when he's not distracted. Just the other day I was contemplating the question of who would eventually come to be considered the "literary geniuses" (on a par Tolkien for example) of our time. Sadly, I couldn't think of any.
As Bullet said, he was a linguist but I'd argue he understood the beauty in any given language, whether he was a fan of the current associated politics or not. The language of the Rohirim definitely has some German influence. He was really into Germanic myth, including having published his own translation of Beowulf and by really into I mean- we owe much of current Old English scholarship and our ability to read these works to him and men he influenced.
Abortions for ork spawn should be mandatory up through the 40th trimester.
I long for the good old days when any orcish looking spawn would be flung from high windswept crags, and it's mother driven out of the village with stones.
This is hilarious. Makes you really think what the fuck the women are doing that would make them think that the orc was attractive even for a second. That kid looks scarier than a fucking gremlin with all three of the rules broken.
Morgoth took some elves and conducted then into orcs and goblins.
Also, according to norse-germanic myth, the dwarves are elves, the dark elves were another name for the dwarves.
So orcs are elves, and dwarves are elves, and goblins are orcs which are another kind of elf and all were known as "vattir" which roughly translates to "spirit", and from which we gain the term "wight", frequently used to refer to ghosts or the undead.
Taken more westward, this also occupies the same category as faeries, meaning faeries are spirits which are all various kinds of elf.
It get weirder, as European folklore and mythology basically places all the known known universal monsters into the same category as well.
We know that elemental spirits and faeries and ghosts of the dead are sometimes talked about as if they were one and the same.
Well, Undead creatures such as vampires and werewolves and witches all were often the same creature as well.
A werewolf was referred to as a shape-shifting male witch, a werewolf thay died could rise as a vampire, and a witch would often be depicted as behaving as a vampire does, consuming human blood to sustain their unnatural lives.
Many faeries were outright said to be werewolves or vampires or witches, placing them once again into a common category.
I seriously think that early Europe really didn't have discrete groups they placed their creatures in and just had generalized monsters that occasionally could be described as one or two nore specific things.
It was the modern world that tried to pry things apart and started localizing certain traits that were once shared among multiple beings into a more specific kind of being.
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It's no secret that he taught himself Finnish, and used that language as the basis for "Elvish".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influences_on_J._R._R._Tolkien
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_influences_on_Tolkien
https://theculturetrip.com/europe/finland/articles/how-tolkien-was-inspired-by-finland
Fascinating what a literary genius can accomplish when he's not distracted.
Just the other day I was contemplating the question of who would eventually come to be considered the "literary geniuses" (on a par Tolkien for example) of our time. Sadly, I couldn't think of any.
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I long for the good old days when any orcish looking spawn would be flung from high windswept crags, and it's mother driven out of the village with stones.
And one day, will be again.
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Morgoth took some elves and conducted then into orcs and goblins.
Also, according to norse-germanic myth, the dwarves are elves, the dark elves were another name for the dwarves.
So orcs are elves, and dwarves are elves, and goblins are orcs which are another kind of elf and all were known as "vattir" which roughly translates to "spirit", and from which we gain the term "wight", frequently used to refer to ghosts or the undead.
Taken more westward, this also occupies the same category as faeries, meaning faeries are spirits which are all various kinds of elf.
It get weirder, as European folklore and mythology basically places all the known known universal monsters into the same category as well.
We know that elemental spirits and faeries and ghosts of the dead are sometimes talked about as if they were one and the same.
Well, Undead creatures such as vampires and werewolves and witches all were often the same creature as well.
A werewolf was referred to as a shape-shifting male witch, a werewolf thay died could rise as a vampire, and a witch would often be depicted as behaving as a vampire does, consuming human blood to sustain their unnatural lives.
Many faeries were outright said to be werewolves or vampires or witches, placing them once again into a common category.
I seriously think that early Europe really didn't have discrete groups they placed their creatures in and just had generalized monsters that occasionally could be described as one or two nore specific things.
It was the modern world that tried to pry things apart and started localizing certain traits that were once shared among multiple beings into a more specific kind of being.
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If you came across one they were often bleeding from the mouth, as if they had consumed the blood of the living
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