Topic came up in a discussion about Omegle shutting down.
Everyone needs an "approved" modem to connect to an ISP. And from what I understand, the modem uses the DNS to find web sites, etc. Is the DNS after the modem in the ISP server side?
The ultimate question is this: could a modem capture all of the header data from every website visit and search and store that in a log, even if using a VPN?
I don't understand the networking side of things very well, but a quick search explanation says that a VPN creates an encrypted tunnel between my computer and the VPN servers - does that mean my DNS lookups happen at the VPN now?
In terms of opsec, all my activity and searches are now stored at the VPN (even the ones that say they don't log anything), and the ISP modem only really sees just "traffic"?
My thought was that the ISP modem would capture all URLs and log those, and because the "approved" modems most likely log everything and allow ISPs to download those logs remotely, nothing can be trusted. In those crime shows where the zogbots get "browsing history", really they are getting the URL logs from the ISP, that the customer (me) has no ability to delete or even know they are there.
My counter to this would be to create a script that will constantly spam the router with a fake URL that would fill up the log very quickly. Whether that log writes over old entry, like a dashcam does, or if the ISP never expects the log file to fill up and just locks at that point, I don't know.
Is it worth it to look at this? I was thinking of just writing a version of a webcrawler script that will just try to get a fake URL over and over with a large payload (no idea what the max is - 256 characters? 10k characters?) and just do this forever.
Kape technology, the Mossad affiliated Israeli company (prepare for the copy paste) - owns these 6 VPN's.
ExpressVPN, Widely considered to be the best and most popular VPN in existence. As a best-in-class premium VPN provider ExpressVPN is dedicated to providing an unparalleled VPN service.
Private Internet Access, US-based VPN service provider that boasts a court-proven no-logs policy. With over 10 years in business and millions of satisfied customers, PIA is well-equipped to provide world-class VPN services
CyberGhost VPN, CyberGhost is a Romania-based VPN service provider with over a decade of experience as one of the world’s most reliable privacy and security solutions. With millions of users, CyberGhost is a behemoth in the VPN industry.
ZenMate VPN, ZenMate is yet another leading no-logs VPN service provider dedicated to bringing the robust security and anonymity of VPN technology to everyday internet users. One ZenMate subscription covers an unlimited number of devices — a VPN with unlimited utility for users.
Intego Antivirus, Intego is the leading antivirus software exclusively for Mac computers — and has a proven track record of success dating back to 1997. Their specialized services are tailored for the Apple ecosystem and nobody else delivers comparable results.
Webselenese, Global leaders in providing data-powered, consumer-focused privacy and security content via a portfolio of comparison websites that offer unbiased reviews, guides, and information to help consumers navigate the digital world and connect to the products they need.
[ - ] beece 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 12, 2023 19:02:12 ago (+1/-0)
As an aside, in case you want some internet research, Kape also owns 2 vpn reviewing web sites, VPNMentor.com and Wizcase.com. Some of the earlier acquisitions of Kape Technologies were Ajillion LLC, Definiti Media, Reimage, DriverAgent, Intego, Restoro.
Some of the key individuals behind Kape Technologies are Teddy Sagi and Koby Menachemi. Sagi is a serial entrepreneur worth $3.6 billion. He’s known as the founder of Playtech and SafeChange International, specializing in gambling and payment processing. Sagi also spent nine months in jail in 1993 for "grave deceit, bribery, and insider trading." And more recently, he was named in the Panama Papers that detail a "rogue offshore financial industry."
Koby Menachemi has been connected to Israeli intelligence and cyber espionage, as he was part of Unit 8200 (working for the Israel Defense Forces), where he was a developer for three years.
The DNS needs to first resolve bing.com - and that DNS lookup happens at the ISP through the modem? Or does the VPN make everything go there? Use the VPN DNS, and resolve from there?
I believe virtual private servers essentially act as an extended computer to the user, would a VPN act as the ISP modem as well? Will that URL be visible to the ISP modem itself as it does any form of DNS routing?
All traffic is supposed to be encrypted until it reaches the VPN, even DNS lookups. The DNS server should only see the IP address of the VPN server. "Fingerprinting" and such could still narrow down who you are. A number of other goofy situations could expose you, such as your VPN client crashes (the VPN should have a kill switch to end all Internet traffic), something called IPv6 leaking which I don't quite understand, and other fun things.
VPN's can encrypt the data so it's just a bunch of gibberish.
The ISP can't capture header data from the website you visit on a VPN because it's no longer going through their servers. They see you connected to a VPN via the IP and port. The data is encrypted if using wireguard and quantum-resistant tunnel.
That being said I don't much about it.
BTW: Most cable guys that install your cable are FBI agents. So keep that in mind.
The first hop - from my computer to the router - is what really baffles me. I know that the first hop of any web connection is typically the DNS server that then changes the name to a number.
It's that first hop that makes me wonder how the VPN handles it, and what exactly the role of the ISP modem is after connecting to a VPN.
Does the modem just act as the connection directly to the VPN servers? And DNS lookup and all hops go straight from the VPN?
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 3 points 1.5 yearsNov 12, 2023 18:57:55 ago (+3/-0)
Kape technology, the Mossad affiliated Israeli company (prepare for the copy paste) - owns these 6 VPN's.
ExpressVPN, Widely considered to be the best and most popular VPN in existence. As a best-in-class premium VPN provider ExpressVPN is dedicated to providing an unparalleled VPN service.
Private Internet Access, US-based VPN service provider that boasts a court-proven no-logs policy. With over 10 years in business and millions of satisfied customers, PIA is well-equipped to provide world-class VPN services
CyberGhost VPN, CyberGhost is a Romania-based VPN service provider with over a decade of experience as one of the world’s most reliable privacy and security solutions. With millions of users, CyberGhost is a behemoth in the VPN industry.
ZenMate VPN, ZenMate is yet another leading no-logs VPN service provider dedicated to bringing the robust security and anonymity of VPN technology to everyday internet users. One ZenMate subscription covers an unlimited number of devices — a VPN with unlimited utility for users.
Intego Antivirus, Intego is the leading antivirus software exclusively for Mac computers — and has a proven track record of success dating back to 1997. Their specialized services are tailored for the Apple ecosystem and nobody else delivers comparable results.
Webselenese, Global leaders in providing data-powered, consumer-focused privacy and security content via a portfolio of comparison websites that offer unbiased reviews, guides, and information to help consumers navigate the digital world and connect to the products they need.
Look it up yourself: https://yandex.com/search/?text=kape+technology+vpn&lr=21215&search_source=yacom_desktop_common
Per their web site, they promise security, freedom, and privacy. I can't speak to the other vpns.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 12, 2023 19:02:12 ago (+1/-0)
Some of the key individuals behind Kape Technologies are Teddy Sagi and Koby Menachemi. Sagi is a serial entrepreneur worth $3.6 billion. He’s known as the founder of Playtech and SafeChange International, specializing in gambling and payment processing. Sagi also spent nine months in jail in 1993 for "grave deceit, bribery, and insider trading." And more recently, he was named in the Panama Papers that detail a "rogue offshore financial industry."
Koby Menachemi has been connected to Israeli intelligence and cyber espionage, as he was part of Unit 8200 (working for the Israel Defense Forces), where he was a developer for three years.
https://www.technadu.com/which-vpns-are-owned-by-kape-technologies/304917/
and
https://restoreprivacy.com/kape-technologies-owns-expressvpn-cyberghost-pia-zenmate-vpn-review-sites/
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[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 12, 2023 18:25:58 ago (+0/-0)
And not just websites - all the other protocols too. Somewhere, every byte of internet traffic is being stored and cataloged.
The goal is to try and make it as hard as possible for them to attach that data. Like doing the "going limp" when zogbots want to arrest you.
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[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 12, 2023 18:14:52 ago (+0/-0)
Besides, all VPNs are run by the kikes. There is no way the kikes would allow anything on (((their))) internet that isn't monitored in some way.
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[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 12, 2023 17:54:24 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 12, 2023 18:13:26 ago (+0/-0)
For instance, a simple search request such as:
https://www.bing.com/search?form=MOZLBR&pc=MOZI&q=vpn+logs
The DNS needs to first resolve bing.com - and that DNS lookup happens at the ISP through the modem? Or does the VPN make everything go there? Use the VPN DNS, and resolve from there?
I believe virtual private servers essentially act as an extended computer to the user, would a VPN act as the ISP modem as well? Will that URL be visible to the ISP modem itself as it does any form of DNS routing?
Thanks
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[ - ] Monica 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 12, 2023 19:13:04 ago (+0/-0)
The ISP can't capture header data from the website you visit on a VPN because it's no longer going through their servers. They see you connected to a VPN via the IP and port. The data is encrypted if using wireguard and quantum-resistant tunnel.
That being said I don't much about it.
BTW: Most cable guys that install your cable are FBI agents. So keep that in mind.
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 12, 2023 20:24:46 ago (+0/-0)
The first hop - from my computer to the router - is what really baffles me. I know that the first hop of any web connection is typically the DNS server that then changes the name to a number.
It's that first hop that makes me wonder how the VPN handles it, and what exactly the role of the ISP modem is after connecting to a VPN.
Does the modem just act as the connection directly to the VPN servers? And DNS lookup and all hops go straight from the VPN?