[ - ] iocane 1 point 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 00:29:50 ago (+1/-0)
This video explains everything for you. If you're like me you will at multiple points say, "but what about....," but keep watching because he will explain the reason why not that either. I did that multiple times. It is a subject obviously a bit over my head but I walked away from it no longer thinking you can use it for FTL comms.
It's all fake and gay. The particles are set up from the start to be like that, they aren't "determined" when you look at them. They were always like that. The idea that things aren't known until you look at them is fucking retarded jewish bullshit.
Yes. Pilot wave theory can explain quantum mechanics while still being deterministic like the macro world. And we even can make macro models of pilot wave theory.
I think someone in the physics field is being a fag trying to act like it's some divine human thing or whatever. I found a single video that actually explained this business of "it 'collapses' into a wave when you look at it". I don't think i could find the video again, but it's some swedish woman talking about the light waves used to detect the particle; i think she said something like when the light wave is strong enough to detect the particle... you know what, nevermind because i'm about to rephrase what's already been said, and it wasn't that. you'll have to dig it up.
but yeah, i'm tired of everything named "quantum" this or that, and everyone who talks about quantum stuff doesn't really know anything past the present social zeitgeist of what's popular and agreeable to say.
TL;DR: Quantum entanglement becomes increasingly unreliable as distance increases.
Checking state still requires verification. So, if you flip a bit, and that bit is entangled 1 light year away, it will still have 1 light year for information about state to travel back to you for verification. Otherwise there's no way of telling the difference between signal and noise.
If you have a tv that is displaying random black and white static, then for some strange reason, it starts displaying what appears to be and old black and white cowboy western, you don't know if it's just absurd random chance that static happened to display those images, or maybe the tv started receiving a signal? You have to VERIFY that signal to be sure, and verification is always going to be a light speed process.
If you have a tv that is displaying random black and white static, then for some strange reason, it starts displaying what appears to be and old black and white cowboy western, you don't know if it's just absurd random chance that static happened to display those images, or maybe the tv started receiving a signal?
wouldn't this be solved by exchanging a secret key in advance, thereby decreasing the chance of error greatly. also, even if there were error it's better than nothing, and you would use something instead of nothing
If your tv is displaying random static, and it just happened to, even if unlikely, play static that mimics a movie, your key can't be trusted either. The signal will always be suspect, unless you can verify the signal, and verification is a light speed event.
The question then becomes, how much do you trust quantum entanglement? And the answer is, that you can't.
quantum entanglement isn't magic. it's the equivalent to saying when you hear a sound from a distance, then you know that somewhere twice as far away also heard that sound.
You learn something about somewhere else, but that has no bearing on whether you can communicate at all WITH that somewhere else.
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 4 monthsDec 19, 2023 13:49:49 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] iocane
[ - ] iocane 1 point 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 00:29:50 ago (+1/-0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLqk7uaENAY
[ + ] iThinkiShitYourself
[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself [op] 0 points 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 20:21:48 ago (+0/-0)
already saw it and that's what I'm basing my post on
it does not "explains everything"
you need to watch the video again and then re read this post.
[ + ] GottaGasEmAll
[ - ] GottaGasEmAll 1 point 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 00:29:10 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 1 point 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 06:08:43 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] iThinkiShitYourself
[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself [op] 0 points 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 20:26:28 ago (+0/-0)
but yeah, i'm tired of everything named "quantum" this or that, and everyone who talks about quantum stuff doesn't really know anything past the present social zeitgeist of what's popular and agreeable to say.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 6 monthsNov 7, 2023 21:55:40 ago (+1/-0)*
Checking state still requires verification.
So, if you flip a bit, and that bit is entangled 1 light year away, it will still have 1 light year for information about state to travel back to you for verification.
Otherwise there's no way of telling the difference between signal and noise.
If you have a tv that is displaying random black and white static, then for some strange reason, it starts displaying what appears to be and old black and white cowboy western, you don't know if it's just absurd random chance that static happened to display those images, or maybe the tv started receiving a signal?
You have to VERIFY that signal to be sure, and verification is always going to be a light speed process.
See: "Two Generals' Problem"
[ + ] iThinkiShitYourself
[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself [op] 0 points 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 20:28:35 ago (+0/-0)
wouldn't this be solved by exchanging a secret key in advance, thereby decreasing the chance of error greatly. also, even if there were error it's better than nothing, and you would use something instead of nothing
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 22:30:58 ago (+0/-0)
The signal will always be suspect, unless you can verify the signal, and verification is a light speed event.
The question then becomes, how much do you trust quantum entanglement?
And the answer is, that you can't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xz-OSISxxo
[ + ] nephileon
[ - ] nephileon 0 points 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 10:33:58 ago (+0/-0)
You learn something about somewhere else, but that has no bearing on whether you can communicate at all WITH that somewhere else.
[ + ] The_Reunto
[ - ] The_Reunto 0 points 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 05:47:37 ago (+0/-0)
They used that premise in Ender's Game
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[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 01:23:05 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] iThinkiShitYourself
[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself [op] 0 points 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 20:20:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] iThinkiShitYourself
[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself [op] 0 points 6 monthsNov 8, 2023 20:20:44 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] happytoes
[ - ] happytoes 0 points 6 monthsNov 9, 2023 13:06:13 ago (+0/-0)
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