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Why don't the US Citizens just "Unionize" against the Federal Government and stop paying taxes?

submitted by FuckShitJesus to whatever 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 11:00:24 ago (+16/-0)     (whatever)

Seriously. The tyrant hypocrites couldn't stop it without also destroying the Labor Unions.


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[ - ] UncleDoug 14 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 12:26:58 ago (+14/-0)

Why? Because of diversity, that's why.

Everyone is so fractured in demographics from race, shape, religion, and political ideologies that it is impossible to form meaningful associations. That is exactly how corporations and now government divide and conquer.

This is why White Nationalism is more important than ever.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 2 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 12:31:05 ago (+4/-2)

Even if you organized Whites, the religious crowd are still jew slaves, worshipping a jew book.

[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 13:43:01 ago (+0/-0)

So YOU know what you have to do.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 5 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 12:31:41 ago (+5/-0)*

We had that in canada, the general strike. What happened after that was a massacre.

The government just started sending their loyalist military and police against the protestors to force them to work and pay their taxes, arresting those who didn't comply, the protestors bank then actually had balls on them, and when they said they were willing to fight for their beliefs they meant it literally.

So a minor civil war breaks out and the people lost. Many got slaughtered in the streets once the Canadian government gave the green light to open fire on the crowds, including anyone in the wrong place at the wrong time people died Indiscriminately.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 3 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 12:33:58 ago (+3/-0)

There are many times more Citizens than police and/or military.

The situation you described is only possible of idiots allow themselves to be persecuted, which I can only surmise is the result of not being serious about the protest in the first place.

There is no such thing as a non violent revolution. You either mean it, or you're just virtue signaling.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 3 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 14:41:03 ago (+3/-0)

A lesson the conservatives and libertarians should learn. Either commit to the fight and accept that violence and atrocities that come with a revolution, or resign yourself to living within the regime you trapped yourself under.

The few famous examples of successful "peaceful protest" movements are psychological operations built on lies, lies of omission, and a failure to understand the context of why their causes had succeeded. Also note how few those examples of political change by peaceful means are compared to the long list of times when political change was accomplished with the use of violence and intimidation.

Democracy is another pacifying agent for the masses, it tells people that they have an influence over their government, but anyone whose tried to enter into politics as a common citizen will find themselves unable to do so because of all the gatekeeping policies that had been erected to keep troublemakers out of the place where they could shake up the institutions.

It's why only someone like trump could be a populist candidate, he's already an insider within the system.

Don't forget the third most infamous opiate, religion, so many right wingers are refusing to seriously take up arms against the system solely because of how they believe it would affect the opinion of heaven towards them, It's so easy to put off fighting for the here and now when those who speak for the hereafter are telling you not to.

Religion is also offering a comfort in transcendent solutions that prevents you from seeking solutions on earth, ultimate justice, a never ending life that is either infinitely better than it is on earth or infinitely worse than it, with the murder necessary to revolution blackening your soul with a great mark of sin that can damn you to the latter fate after death.

Morality is another thing which has weakened us, whether it is the greater good or some set of rules that should be abided by, the very idea of a universally applicable morality, and a unified idea of what constitutes a good act in any situation regardless of the perspective.

These hold people back from pursuing their own interest by asking them to place the interests of others on an equal level of consideration to their own, and they hold back the actions of people by demonizing actions themselves rather than how they affect people, or how they affect people in general instead of just those whom the people care about.

Morality should be as simple as personal preferences, not those of anyone else, but only your own, good acts are good because you expect to like the results, evil things are evil because you expect to dislike the results.

How others feel about actions should not matter to you. Before you criticize this selfish outlook, take some time to better understand how it would affect your behavior by reflecting upon what you imagine would make you most happy or most miserable, then try to extend that to how you think most others would answer that question.

So many things hold white people back from doing anything, and a few of the most significant are these ideological barriers.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 5 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 11:53:45 ago (+5/-0)*

Taxes are not so they can obtain money. They can just print money.

Taxes are to force you to use their money, so you trade your time and energy for their money.

If everyone stop paying taxes, and still used their money, they can tax by printing more.

The only way to really fuck them over is to stop using their money or accepting it for trade. At least don't trade your time or energy with someone who they give free money to.

There are different systems for that.

Hawala is used on a large scale. There is nothing they can break down your door and steal from you.

Other forms of money are silver, monero, oil, or at least pay in cash without tax.

Even if they could not tax money, they could exact other forms of taxes.

A good way to avoid taxes, would be to study the tax law.

A business is Earn+spend-tax not like a worker with earn-tax-spend the first allows you to avoid income taxes. Then there are property and sales tax. The later can be performed via trade. That leaves property taxes - get into local government and try to get rid of them.

Then stop saving dollars, they decrease in value.

[ - ] MichaelStewart 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 15:38:49 ago (+0/-0)

Other forms of money are silver, monero, oil, or at least pay in cash without tax.

This goat is wide awake

[ - ] JustALover 4 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 11:41:43 ago (+4/-0)

That would work if everybody did it at the same time. Otherwise the ZOG would just Ruby Ridge one family at a time.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 11:42:26 ago (+1/-0)

Realistically, what is the minimum viable number of people? 250k? 500k? 1m?

[ - ] Fascinus 3 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 13:22:08 ago (+3/-0)

only 3% of American colonists took up arms against the British in the 18th century American Revolution

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 2 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 14:12:59 ago (+2/-0)

So roughly 12 million.

[ - ] Fascinus 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 14:16:15 ago (+1/-0)

There may be other factors, such as technological advances or cultural division, that skew the balance one way or another and that seems like a plausible number to achieve critical mass.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 2 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 11:52:36 ago (+2/-0)

Well, start the movement.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 3 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 12:30:33 ago (+3/-0)

I only see one technically viable way to do so, but the technical means have been so propagandized that most people (especially and even those on Voat) view it with a degree of bias that completely blinds them.

I have no desire to waste my life trying to save a bunch of retards from themselves.

[ - ] MichaelStewart 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 15:44:38 ago (+1/-0)

I only see one technically viable way to do so

Well, noone's stopping you from saying what it is, we're all ears.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 16:15:55 ago (+1/-0)

Combines a couple, readily available concepts. If I wanted to task my own capital to solve this problem, I probably could.

It would require adopting a series of nuanced components, from a number of different projects, and combining them together to solve a number of structural friction points within the fabric of modern society.

The intention would not be a one-size-fits-all bandaid, but instead begin from the level of intellectual honesty to acknowledge that the true keystone of the demonstrable and systemic breakdown is driven by the IQ curve. Homer Simpson terms, the smart people are conning the dumb people; and there are a ton of both.

Instead of trying to fix something that is biologically driven within society, you can do a number of alternatives - such as opting to provide tools that make it very hard to continue the dichotomy of the smart preying on all the dumb. Simple things like this, which require an alternative (but readily available) form of identity, that returns trust to identity, thereby enabling all the new tools for the dumb to be elevated to at least somewhat similar capabilities as the smart.

Even the playing field. This requires no people to be explicitly organized for any particular purpose, for the simple reason that this very innovation will create an entirely new system for that system of control to attempt to combat.

Eventually, the system of control loses because of dying to the weight of it's own bureaucratic and/or fiscally irresponsible ineffectiveness.

"History doesn't repeat, it rhymes". Many people routinely point out, the rhyme is the adaptation of technology, and the history repeat is that particular disruptive group gaining control, until the cycle repeats.

I see a thousand opportunities, which could lead to ten million solutions.

[ - ] allAheadFull 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 14:28:04 ago (+0/-0)

The main problem with crypto is the Internet, which bankers can control and kick people off of if any payment system that they don't control becomes too popular. The bankers need to go before digital passports and CBDCs become common or we are fucked.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 16:43:23 ago (+0/-0)

See above reply in long form, I guess.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 16:52:55 ago (+0/-0)

Same, I gave up tryna inform/help people a long time ago

[ - ] deleted 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 14:25:31 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 15:02:44 ago (+0/-0)

I don't really care what we call it, as long as people wake the hell up and get it done.

[ - ] chrimony 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 11:45:13 ago (+1/-0)

It would give you more dollaroos to spend, but it would do nothing against the Federal government. How is it they run enormous deficits, year after year? Answer: Fiat currency. They don't need your tax dollars.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 11:47:33 ago (+1/-0)

Once the first legitimately organized group shows the rest of the population it can be done, it will be done.

[ - ] chrimony 3 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 12:48:04 ago (+3/-0)

You're missing the point.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 1 point 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 12:53:01 ago (+1/-0)

Or you are.

Any organized group would really just need to remind the judges that consequence is back on the menu, and this entire thing gets very real, very fast.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 13:19:31 ago (+0/-0)

What consequences? I just told you, the Federal government doesn't need your taxes. Try reading.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 15:04:46 ago (+0/-0)

What consequences?

Hanging by the neck until dead, smooth brain.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 18:42:35 ago (+0/-0)

By not paying your taxes, fucktard?

[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 13:21:42 ago (+0/-0)

Too bad that there are no organized groups and never will be. The jew will infiltrate and shit it down quick smart.

Refer to George Lincoln Rockwell and his assasination for proof.

[ - ] letsgetit 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 17:46:02 ago (+0/-0)

yes the 63 different cultural groups we have here will band together...

[ - ] herbert_west 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 17:36:41 ago (+0/-0)

Nowadays most people depend on the government for their income one way or another. It's just about 2/3 of the white males paying "real" taxes and keeping the west afloat. Not only they leech us dry, but we are also constantly being vilified.

If we stop paying taxes, they are going after us gulag-style. The system is doomed one way or another.

[ - ] Trickthegoyim 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 15:44:05 ago (+0/-0)

This is a shit idea. They have a million ways of stopping this. I won't even bother explaining.

[ - ] LostWhale 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 14:39:57 ago (+0/-0)

Blacks are too stupid to understand taxation as a concept besides they'd never go against their own interest. You'd have to get all whites on board as niggers and spics are the major beneficiaries.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 29, 2023 15:02:57 ago (+0/-0)

I don't think blacks matter.