Not unfounded, even if it's unsourced. Israel has been looking for a larger, more hospitable country (one with natural resources and Khazarian history they can identify with), and one they have some control over.
Makes no sense unless they go somewhere else first then resettle later in Ukraine. PRetty sure Ukraine isn't ready for anything liek that at the moment
Yes. This was one of my original theories at the beginning of this conflict. The kingdom of old khazaria is within the borders of modern day Ukraine. Jews tried to empty out Ukraine the first time through holodomor, as revenge for destroying their old kingdom.
if such a thing actually happens let me know, but I strongly doubt it. the Khodorkovsky guy, billionaire crook who sponsored Zelensky, was based in the city of Dnipro and was trying to set it up as a jewish center. He's been knocked down a level and his project is over, and Dnipro will probably be Russian shortly. Whatever is left of Ukraine post-war will be a mess and and an economic basket case, I don't know why jews would want to go there now. If the arabs manage to kick Israel into the sea and Ukraine offers central ukraine as a buffer zone for jews, I wouldn't even have a problem with that. Sending those fucks back to the Pale, lmfao. As long as it's not the Russian Federation who cares? It's sort of based to use israelis as a buffer zone between you and NATO. And remember this only occurs in the context of Israel being ended, so overall a pretty good outcome.
It looks like it would actually be a anti-euro, anti-russian, anti-american precedent. The israelis would be at russias doorstep, set between europe and russia, able to control the flow of gas and immigrants, and pit either side into further war simply by attacking one and blaming the other, with an easy base of operations in the process. It would be the formalizing of whats already been going on in ukraine for a long time. Once its officiated, its hard to undo (see palestine becoming israel for details). We'd end up in never ending unnecessary conflicts started by the ukrainian israelis, just like the middle east now.
It would be a way of the covert international intelligence junta to end the war. Both sides get to say "if we attack ukraine, we'll end up hurting jews", and both sides would want to avoid that to prevent alienating them further.
Because Ukraine is at war, and many kikes from there already fled to Israel. Instead of inventing grand theories with (stupid) hidden agendas, compare it to the obvious theory: On the 50 year anniversary of Yom Kippur war, Hamas attacked Israel. The end.
Because Ukraine is at war, and many kikes from there already fled to Israel.
Too bad they're going back.
The strategy holds water, as I was discussing with Empire. A bonus to them is with them vacating israel, the palestinians no longer have an immediate enemy in the area so the PLO et al collapses, and every single middle eastern nation begins a giant brawl to carve up former palestine. Sure they'll make overtures to restoring it, but it won't take long before the knives come out to see who can take the biggest slice.
Israel then gets to kvetch from ukraine, about their lost homeland, for a hundred years, embroil their enemy, the u.s. in the middle east again, while plying europe and russia against each other.
With israel in the middle east, Iran also loses its main reason for jockeying to become the new libya or 'leader of the middle east' as it were, in preference to saudi arabia--which already signed a pact with israel, and is run by the u.s., where israel is informally run by the british.
This shifts power and control of the middle east, as well as oil leverage, from the british to the u.s. Might break up OPEC. Definitely split BRICS. If I'm correct we'll see ground action in saudi arabia, or a possible coup to put in someone whose fare more hardline in favor of the u.s.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 13:53:05 ago (+1/-0)
Let me ask you, did kikes voluntarily leave germany instead of being forcefully evicted to israel?
What you're ignoring is the kike push to go to Israel in the first place.
Then explain to me the reality and why believe it to be so.
It's hard to talk to a 'tard that can't understand the obvious. I can explain the obvious, but it should already be obvious, so I'm just wasting my time. I'll entertain the idea for a bit, but my patience isn't infinite:
Israel is the ancestral and religious homeland of the kikes. They've already fought several wars to defend Israel, and there's no indication that this latest flareup is any worse than previous wars. If anything, it's quite the opposite -- while the attack by Hamas caught them off guard, it was a relatively small military incursion. Hezbollah, who has the much more serious military to their north, did not attack at the same time. Instead, they only launched some token artillery after the fact in "support".
So the idea that the Israelis are just going to pick up sticks and move to war-torn Ukraine, of all places, is ridiculous.
Theres a qualitative difference between fighting with your regional neighbors, and being used as a launching pad for u.s. efforts to undermine iranian-russian drone production. Saying israel is their ancestral homeland doesn't negate the copious quantities of propaganda groundwork that was laid for the last two years, flooding the zone about israels ties to ukraine and 'muh kazarians'.
Not asking you to do the footwork or anything like that, but if you happen to have any links summarizing the scale of previous wars involving israel, relative to the current war, it'd be useful.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 23:06:07 ago (+1/-0)
Eh, I still think you're incorrect on this one.
Yes, I know you're retarded.
Theres a qualitative difference between fighting with your regional neighbors, and being used as a launching pad for u.s. efforts to undermine iranian-russian drone production. Saying israel is their ancestral homeland doesn't negate the copious quantities of propaganda groundwork that was laid for the last two years, flooding the zone about israels ties to ukraine and 'muh kazarians'.
None of this makes any sense. This is a war against Palestinian Hamas. The US is Zionist in nature. This has fuck-all to do with Iranian drone production. Any bullshit about "Kazarians" are just tards being tards online, something you should be intimately familiar with.
Not asking you to do the footwork or anything like that, but if you happen to have any links summarizing the scale of previous wars involving israel, relative to the current war, it'd be useful.
This is where you should have the most basic facts of history before opening your mouth and spreading kooky theories. You could start with learning about the Yom Kippur war of 1973, of which the current Hamas attack commenced on the 50 year anniversary, only one day late. Of course there's the initial Israel war of independence in 1948, where Israel was attacked from all sides by the surrounding Arab states. Or the Six Day war in 1967. Israel's fight against the PLO. Wars with Lebanon. The "intifadas" that have occurred between Israel and Palestinians.
There have been many armed conflicts involving Israel -- the idea that THIS is the one that's going to make them quit the Promised Land is a joke.
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[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 09:49:22 ago (+0/-0)
Thats not out of the question, its actually the first thing that came to mind.
They'll move them there when reconstruction begins, start a million 'contractor' businesses, and grift all the rebuild money.
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[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 09:51:14 ago (+1/-0)
I'm not 100% sure russia did. What of israelis being used as a buffer population?
[ + ] Empire_of_the_Mind
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[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 11:56:57 ago (+0/-0)
We'd end up in never ending unnecessary conflicts started by the ukrainian israelis, just like the middle east now.
It would be a way of the covert international intelligence junta to end the war. Both sides get to say "if we attack ukraine, we'll end up hurting jews", and both sides would want to avoid that to prevent alienating them further.
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[ - ] chrimony -1 points 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 00:13:56 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 09:51:38 ago (+0/-0)
How so?
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 10:36:52 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 12:03:10 ago (+0/-0)
Too bad they're going back.
The strategy holds water, as I was discussing with Empire.
A bonus to them is with them vacating israel, the palestinians no longer have an immediate enemy in the area so the PLO et al collapses, and every single middle eastern nation begins a giant brawl to carve up former palestine. Sure they'll make overtures to restoring it, but it won't take long before the knives come out to see who can take the biggest slice.
Israel then gets to kvetch from ukraine, about their lost homeland, for a hundred years, embroil their enemy, the u.s. in the middle east again, while plying europe and russia against each other.
With israel in the middle east, Iran also loses its main reason for jockeying to become the new libya or 'leader of the middle east' as it were, in preference to saudi arabia--which already signed a pact with israel, and is run by the u.s., where israel is informally run by the british.
This shifts power and control of the middle east, as well as oil leverage, from the british to the u.s. Might break up OPEC. Definitely split BRICS. If I'm correct we'll see ground action in saudi arabia, or a possible coup to put in someone whose fare more hardline in favor of the u.s.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 12:10:43 ago (+0/-0)
Why would they go back to a war zone they fled?
Only if you're retarded.
This will NEVER happen. You're living in a fantasy land with no understanding of reality.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 13:05:54 ago (+0/-0)
Let me ask you, did kikes voluntarily leave germany instead of being forcefully evicted to israel?
It happened once before, it can happen again.
How so?
Then explain to me the reality and why believe it to be so.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 13:53:05 ago (+1/-0)
What you're ignoring is the kike push to go to Israel in the first place.
It's hard to talk to a 'tard that can't understand the obvious. I can explain the obvious, but it should already be obvious, so I'm just wasting my time. I'll entertain the idea for a bit, but my patience isn't infinite:
Israel is the ancestral and religious homeland of the kikes. They've already fought several wars to defend Israel, and there's no indication that this latest flareup is any worse than previous wars. If anything, it's quite the opposite -- while the attack by Hamas caught them off guard, it was a relatively small military incursion. Hezbollah, who has the much more serious military to their north, did not attack at the same time. Instead, they only launched some token artillery after the fact in "support".
So the idea that the Israelis are just going to pick up sticks and move to war-torn Ukraine, of all places, is ridiculous.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 22:39:15 ago (+0/-0)
Theres a qualitative difference between fighting with your regional neighbors, and being used as a launching pad for u.s. efforts to undermine iranian-russian drone production. Saying israel is their ancestral homeland doesn't negate the copious quantities of propaganda groundwork that was laid for the last two years, flooding the zone about israels ties to ukraine and 'muh kazarians'.
Not asking you to do the footwork or anything like that, but if you happen to have any links summarizing the scale of previous wars involving israel, relative to the current war, it'd be useful.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1.7 yearsOct 9, 2023 23:06:07 ago (+1/-0)
Yes, I know you're retarded.
None of this makes any sense. This is a war against Palestinian Hamas. The US is Zionist in nature. This has fuck-all to do with Iranian drone production. Any bullshit about "Kazarians" are just tards being tards online, something you should be intimately familiar with.
This is where you should have the most basic facts of history before opening your mouth and spreading kooky theories. You could start with learning about the Yom Kippur war of 1973, of which the current Hamas attack commenced on the 50 year anniversary, only one day late. Of course there's the initial Israel war of independence in 1948, where Israel was attacked from all sides by the surrounding Arab states. Or the Six Day war in 1967. Israel's fight against the PLO. Wars with Lebanon. The "intifadas" that have occurred between Israel and Palestinians.
There have been many armed conflicts involving Israel -- the idea that THIS is the one that's going to make them quit the Promised Land is a joke.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsOct 10, 2023 16:28:43 ago (+0/-0)
Best argument so far that I'm wrong. Thank you for the minor effortpost chrimony.
May I run things by you for criticism or counter commentary occasionally?