Flattards like McTurd are time burglars. You can't engage in serious discussion with them because they aren't interested in serious discussion. All they care about is defending their flattard religion and dragging you down to their level.
They'll lie, move goalposts, ignore evidence, ignore reason, and continually cycle through an endless amount of flattard phenomena that they demand explanations too, while ignoring the massive failure for flattards to come up with a working model of the sky based on simple physics -- but for some reason "globists" have a working model using simple principles that anybody can verify for themselves.
People like you are the time burglar. Yet we rise to the occasion to provide you with reason and truth and photos and videos to illustrate and demonstrate why we know and understand that we were under indoctrination, the same that you are under still.
You can't let go of your vitriol for those who don't agree with your indoctrination and you lash out. "How dare someone disagree!" "He must be mad!"
Yet you care not at all to meet us on the field of reality and truth and experimentation and instead insist on appealing to the authorities of men.
You dismiss the truths that are clearly show, you dismiss the proof that your scientism heroes had false assumptions and you respond with 'whataboutisms', completely ignoring that the proofs of your heroes having false assumptions taints their conclusions.
"They'll lie, move goalposts, ignore evidence, ignore reason, and continually cycle through an endless amount of flattard phenomena that they demand explanations too, while ignoring the massive failure for flattards to come up with a working model of the sky based on simple physics -- but for some reason "globists" have a working model using simple principles that anybody can verify for themselves."
"The opposition we are faced with don't do that, they just want to regurgitate their gnostic-scientism world-view and ridicule because they are too self-satisfied with their indoctrination (everybody believes like me; we've got this sweet consensus going on, right bros? The truth be damned /s)."
Look, I can quote myself too! Yay low-effort regurgitation of our world-views!
For any time and place on Earth, you can get an accurate picture of what the sky above will look like. All using a simple model based on a spherical Earth, light, and F=ma. There is no flattard equivalent.
you can get an accurate picture of what the sky above will look like.
It has never changed it's pattern of movement, this was known from old. The only thing we've done is devise math to describe it. The north star has never moved.
There was never a working ball earth model, the flat models were just appropriated.
F=ma has absolutely nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact, Newtons laws do not even work for the motions of Mercury.
You don't even understand that is the reason for 'relativity'. Which has it's own problems. Which is why they carried out the Michelson-Morley experiment to attempt to prove relativity. They failed, detecting no 'motion'.
It has never changed it's pattern of movement, this was known from old.
Ancient methods of predicting the sky were based on local observation. They couldn't tell you what the sky would be if you moved a large distance, and they had trouble with planets because of their occasional retrograde motion in the sky. Modern methods have no such limitations because they are based on a working model of reality.
The only thing we've done is devise math to describe it.
That's physics and geometry, flattard, all testable on your table top.
There was never a working ball earth model, the flat models were just appropriated.
Then it should be easy for you to point to the working flattard model that shows the sky above for any time and place on Earth. But you never will, because you know this isn't a thing. This is an example of how flattards lie and deny reality to defend their flattard religion.
F=ma has absolutely nothing to do with it.
It explains the elliptical orbits of the planets, and is testable on your table top.
As a matter of fact, Newtons laws do not even work for the motions of Mercury.
Flattard uses modern, precise measurements of Mercury to focus on a tiny deviation caused by precession of the elliptical orbit predicted by F=ma. Of course flattard will then immediately dismiss the modern theory that explains it. But F=ma gets you 99.99% of the way there.
He literally doesn't even believe that a sphere can cast a round edged shadow onto another sphere, such as during an eclipse. He had no evidence for his completely ridiculous claim, not even a ridiculously long youtube video that would attempt to illustrate his point. But hey, what do you expect from people who keep repeating "water always finds its level" like it's a scientific fact that would prove something if it were true?
[ - ] Love240 1 point 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:28:34 ago (+2/-1)
This is a typical canned Jesuit-education indoctrinated response.
You can do the experiments yourself. Round objects cast flat shadows on spherical objects. Round objects cast curved shadows on flat objects.
You ridicule because you are defending your indoctrination and don't want to demonstrate the ability to actually think rationally through what is actually happening, what are we actually observing.
This is because you were indoctrinated into this world-view before you could even think for yourself, just like me, just like all of us.
We broke free by the Glory of God when we actually decided we will look into it and research it in order to prove what IS the truth. (and that is Jesus Christ)
The opposition we are faced with don't do that, they just want to regurgitate their gnostic-scientism world-view and ridicule because they are too self-satisfied with their indoctrination (everybody believes like me; we've got this sweet consensus going on, right bros? The truth be damned /s).
You're a retard who loves nigger music and worships jews, but seriously bro, I have broken out of plenty of indoctrinations. Telling anyone who disbelieves in the holocaust, knows 9/11 was an inside job, and figured out we were being lied to about covid in early 2020 that "you're just unable to see through the indoctrination" is fucking retarded. I've seen through bullshit that was pushed way the fuck harder than round earth, such as jew worship which billions of people (yourself included) have been indoctrinated into. You are not automatically right simply because you don't agree with the consensus (and if you were, then I'd automatically be right for not believing in your jew messiah that billions of people believe in), and I give precisely 0 fucks what the consensus is when figuring out what I believe.
Your pic shows a curved shadow being cast on a sphere. It does not show a flat shadow being cast on a sphere, nor prove that a round object cannot cast a curved shadow on a sphere. Try again, jew worshiper.
You're a retard who loves nigger music and worships jews,
ad hom and anti-christ sentiment.
but seriously bro, I have broken out of plenty of indoctrinations.
Not the ball-earth indoctrination.
Telling anyone who disbelieves in the holocaust, knows 9/11 was an inside job, and figured out we were being lied to about covid in early 2020 that "you're just unable to see through the indoctrination" is fucking retarded.
Yet you still choose to believe in men and NASA and Eratosthenes and the ball-earth hoax.
I've seen through bullshit that was pushed way the fuck harder than round earth,
FE is the end-game. They don't want you to know because you would then realize that if there is a firmament and there is no space then God made this place.
such as jew worship which billions of people (yourself included) have been indoctrinated into.
And there it is, more of the Anti-Christ sentiment. Very kikey.
You are not automatically right simply because you don't agree with the consensus (and if you were, then I'd automatically be right for not believing in your jew messiah that billions of people believe in), and I give precisely 0 fucks what the consensus is when figuring out what I believe.
Billions don't believe in Jesus on this earth. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Your pic shows a curved shadow being cast on a sphere. It does not show a flat shadow being cast on a sphere, nor prove that a round object cannot cast a curved shadow on a sphere.
Sophistry, it clearly shows that the shadow is a strait line, that is not how the moon appears, it's literally in the same image. You outright DENY the evidence of your own eyes in order to regurgitate your indoctrinated world-view.
Try again, jew worshiper.
Oh I will never stop. Just remember, you are anti-Christ, just like the kikes.
See, this has NEVER been about truth to you, you have always just needed to reinforce your gnostic-scientism world-view that you were indoctrinated with. I know because I broke free of it. Glory to God who is the creator of all things.
Eratosthenes was a non-jewish European. Your anti-European sentiment is noted, as are your complaints that I don't worship the king of the kikes who said that salvation can only come from kikes.
The shadow line on the moon is not straight. Nowhere in your picture does it show a sphere casting a straight shadow line on another sphere, nor does it prove that's the only kind of shadow a sphere can cast on another sphere. You are wrong and have proven nothing.
Your brand of kike worship is the biggest social control scheme on earth, bigger than islam, bigger than communism. It's also bigger than non-jewish religions like hinduism, buddhism, taoism, and what's left of our ancestral Aryan Paganism since the jews have tried their best to eradicate it. To paraphrase your kike messiah who came to fulfill Abraham's blessing and teach the jews how to rule the world, remove the indoctrination log from your own eye before trying to remove specks from mine.
Notice how you can't dispute the fact that Eratosthenes (who was a Helene) assumed the light rays from the sun all hit the earth in parallel. And conversely NASA says they create an umbra to shadow the moon. These two are at odds, you cannot have it both ways.
Instead of using this as a learnable moment you just get angry and lash out at what you know not.
The son of God, Jesus, called the 'jews' the synagogue of Satan multiple times.
The kikes had him crucified.
Just remember, you agree with the kikes and hate Jesus. You agree with the kikes and believe kike run NASA.
You're accusing me of not disputing a fact you never brought up. I also don't give a shit what NASA says, but just because they lie about some things doesn't mean 100% of what they say is a lie.
Your Jesus also said salvation comes only through the jews, John 4:22.
But I don't actually agree with the kikes - I don't even believe your fake jew messiah existed. I believe the jewish messiah was Josephus, who created christianity to enslave Europe and thus fulfill the blessing of Abraham. And that is why Abrahamic religion must be stopped - because if we do not spiritually resist Abrahamism, we will continue to be enslaved by jews. And rather than resist jewish rule, you worship it.
John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
So as you see, the Bible is very clear, the 'jews' are not of God. Only those who believe on Jesus and obey his commandments.
But again, It's your choice if you want to pay for your own sins and burn in hell.
If you agree to do Questions and Answers. We all could send our questions to dungus and when you are available you will answer all our questions on his show.
So you just want to not do any work and search it out for yourself?
He's had a FE'er on his show and it was a pretty paltry showing on dangus' and v0atmage's part. They were very unprepared for it and basically just did the same thing everyone else here does, which is 'whataboutisms' and ad homs.
Is just you answering questions of our curious users. Probably many of us never even thought about flat before you guys started to promote that theory.
I can answer questions here and point you to some fantastic resources.
I am not prepared for a long-form struggle session with people who are not serious about finding the truth in front of an audience for lulz, making a show and a mockery of it.
The word you claim is of god is the word of the jewish god. It is a part of the jewish matrix. That's why they give it to billions of people to control them. Your only source for the claim that the jews of today are not the same kind of jews as the jews you worship is the word of those jews themselves.
You are taking your ideas of god from the writings of jews. That is the issue here. Take the book written by jews and throw it in the trash, find better ideas about the divine that did not come from jews.
We have own podcast TLOL run by @big_fat_dangus so would be fair if he join their podcast and answer our questions so we could learn more about flat-Earths.
He wont. He suffers from the inability to experience visualizations called aphantasia — sometimes called "blindness of the mind's eye." Most People with this condition cant speak fluently and prefer only type.
Im not making that up to blast him, either. i know because i asked him what shape the shadow makes from a quarter an inch ftom a basketball. He asked me for a picture or video. I said but what shape do you think the shadow would be? He said it was impossible. i asked him to clarify, if he meant the shadow would disappear, or if it would turn into a triangle or square. He became angry and burst out how it didnt matter anyway. Hes like an NPC meme with no internal monologue. He will not be going on any podcast, as entertaining as that would be.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 3 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:28:42 ago (+3/-0)
They'll lie, move goalposts, ignore evidence, ignore reason, and continually cycle through an endless amount of flattard phenomena that they demand explanations too, while ignoring the massive failure for flattards to come up with a working model of the sky based on simple physics -- but for some reason "globists" have a working model using simple principles that anybody can verify for themselves.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:38:09 ago (+1/-1)
You can't let go of your vitriol for those who don't agree with your indoctrination and you lash out.
"How dare someone disagree!"
"He must be mad!"
Yet you care not at all to meet us on the field of reality and truth and experimentation and instead insist on appealing to the authorities of men.
You dismiss the truths that are clearly show, you dismiss the proof that your scientism heroes had false assumptions and you respond with 'whataboutisms', completely ignoring that the proofs of your heroes having false assumptions taints their conclusions.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:57:16 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 01:12:36 ago (+0/-0)
Look, I can quote myself too! Yay low-effort regurgitation of our world-views!
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 01:35:27 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 01:43:29 ago (+0/-0)
All you have are the same thing we have, flat maps.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 01:47:42 ago (+1/-1)
For any time and place on Earth, you can get an accurate picture of what the sky above will look like. All using a simple model based on a spherical Earth, light, and F=ma. There is no flattard equivalent.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 01:56:25 ago (+0/-0)
It has never changed it's pattern of movement, this was known from old. The only thing we've done is devise math to describe it. The north star has never moved.
There was never a working ball earth model, the flat models were just appropriated.
F=ma has absolutely nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact, Newtons laws do not even work for the motions of Mercury.
You don't even understand that is the reason for 'relativity'. Which has it's own problems. Which is why they carried out the Michelson-Morley experiment to attempt to prove relativity. They failed, detecting no 'motion'.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 02:12:46 ago (+1/-1)
Ancient methods of predicting the sky were based on local observation. They couldn't tell you what the sky would be if you moved a large distance, and they had trouble with planets because of their occasional retrograde motion in the sky. Modern methods have no such limitations because they are based on a working model of reality.
That's physics and geometry, flattard, all testable on your table top.
Then it should be easy for you to point to the working flattard model that shows the sky above for any time and place on Earth. But you never will, because you know this isn't a thing. This is an example of how flattards lie and deny reality to defend their flattard religion.
It explains the elliptical orbits of the planets, and is testable on your table top.
Flattard uses modern, precise measurements of Mercury to focus on a tiny deviation caused by precession of the elliptical orbit predicted by F=ma. Of course flattard will then immediately dismiss the modern theory that explains it. But F=ma gets you 99.99% of the way there.
[ + ] jigganiggaboo
[ - ] jigganiggaboo 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 03:09:02 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:09:31 ago (+1/-1)
He's seriously full retard.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:28:34 ago (+2/-1)
You can do the experiments yourself.
Round objects cast flat shadows on spherical objects.
Round objects cast curved shadows on flat objects.
You ridicule because you are defending your indoctrination and don't want to demonstrate the ability to actually think rationally through what is actually happening, what are we actually observing.
This is because you were indoctrinated into this world-view before you could even think for yourself, just like me, just like all of us.
We broke free by the Glory of God when we actually decided we will look into it and research it in order to prove what IS the truth. (and that is Jesus Christ)
The opposition we are faced with don't do that, they just want to regurgitate their gnostic-scientism world-view and ridicule because they are too self-satisfied with their indoctrination (everybody believes like me; we've got this sweet consensus going on, right bros? The truth be damned /s).
https://files.catbox.moe/zeczs8.png
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:34:03 ago (+2/-1)
Your pic shows a curved shadow being cast on a sphere. It does not show a flat shadow being cast on a sphere, nor prove that a round object cannot cast a curved shadow on a sphere. Try again, jew worshiper.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:47:16 ago (+0/-0)
ad hom and anti-christ sentiment.
Not the ball-earth indoctrination.
Yet you still choose to believe in men and NASA and Eratosthenes and the ball-earth hoax.
FE is the end-game. They don't want you to know because you would then realize that if there is a firmament and there is no space then God made this place.
And there it is, more of the Anti-Christ sentiment. Very kikey.
Billions don't believe in Jesus on this earth. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Sophistry, it clearly shows that the shadow is a strait line, that is not how the moon appears, it's literally in the same image. You outright DENY the evidence of your own eyes in order to regurgitate your indoctrinated world-view.
Oh I will never stop. Just remember, you are anti-Christ, just like the kikes.
See, this has NEVER been about truth to you, you have always just needed to reinforce your gnostic-scientism world-view that you were indoctrinated with. I know because I broke free of it. Glory to God who is the creator of all things.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 08:17:24 ago (+1/-0)
The shadow line on the moon is not straight. Nowhere in your picture does it show a sphere casting a straight shadow line on another sphere, nor does it prove that's the only kind of shadow a sphere can cast on another sphere. You are wrong and have proven nothing.
Your brand of kike worship is the biggest social control scheme on earth, bigger than islam, bigger than communism. It's also bigger than non-jewish religions like hinduism, buddhism, taoism, and what's left of our ancestral Aryan Paganism since the jews have tried their best to eradicate it. To paraphrase your kike messiah who came to fulfill Abraham's blessing and teach the jews how to rule the world, remove the indoctrination log from your own eye before trying to remove specks from mine.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 08:49:40 ago (+0/-0)
Instead of using this as a learnable moment you just get angry and lash out at what you know not.
The son of God, Jesus, called the 'jews' the synagogue of Satan multiple times.
The kikes had him crucified.
Just remember, you agree with the kikes and hate Jesus. You agree with the kikes and believe kike run NASA.
https://files.catbox.moe/vgx8xz.jpg
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 09:37:25 ago (+0/-0)
Your Jesus also said salvation comes only through the jews, John 4:22.
But I don't actually agree with the kikes - I don't even believe your fake jew messiah existed. I believe the jewish messiah was Josephus, who created christianity to enslave Europe and thus fulfill the blessing of Abraham. And that is why Abrahamic religion must be stopped - because if we do not spiritually resist Abrahamism, we will continue to be enslaved by jews. And rather than resist jewish rule, you worship it.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 10:46:57 ago (+0/-0)
The word "Jew" originates from the Biblical Hebrew word Yehudi, meaning "from the Kingdom of Judah".
Jesus said, those who say they are 'jews' are not and are the synagogue of Satan.
he said those who say they are 'jews' are liars and the synagogue of Satan.
But hey, if you want to go to hell for a 12th century word go right ahead.
Just know you're doing it because you're retarded. (because you're agreeing with the kikes and you think you aren't)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 11:04:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 11:26:12 ago (+0/-0)
Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
So as you see, the Bible is very clear, the 'jews' are not of God. Only those who believe on Jesus and obey his commandments.
But again, It's your choice if you want to pay for your own sins and burn in hell.
[ + ] correctness
[ - ] correctness [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:53:31 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 01:14:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] correctness
[ - ] correctness [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 01:43:45 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 01:45:37 ago (+1/-1)
He's had a FE'er on his show and it was a pretty paltry showing on dangus' and v0atmage's part. They were very unprepared for it and basically just did the same thing everyone else here does, which is 'whataboutisms' and ad homs.
[ + ] correctness
[ - ] correctness [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 02:01:40 ago (+0/-0)
Is just you answering questions of our curious users. Probably many of us never even thought about flat before you guys started to promote that theory.
Anyway can you do it?
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 02:04:09 ago (+0/-0)
I am not prepared for a long-form struggle session with people who are not serious about finding the truth in front of an audience for lulz, making a show and a mockery of it.
There is plenty of that out there already.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 14:35:45 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 15:38:04 ago (+0/-0)
Of course Jesus was a Jehudi. He wasn't a kike, however, that is those who say they are 'jews' and are not and are the synagogue of Satan.
This is only complicated if you believe the 'jews' instead of the Word of God.
You have yet to break free from the 'jewish' matrix. Repent and turn to the Lord Jesus.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 15:48:50 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 15:52:41 ago (+0/-0)
Being Yehudi was never about a ethnicity, it was always about believing in God.
You are still stuck in believing the word of kikes over the word of God.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 16:05:35 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] correctness
[ - ] correctness [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 23, 2023 00:31:30 ago (+0/-0)
We have own podcast TLOL run by @big_fat_dangus so would be fair if he join their podcast and answer our questions so we could learn more about flat-Earths.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 7 monthsSep 24, 2023 13:41:09 ago (+0/-0)
Im not making that up to blast him, either. i know because i asked him what shape the shadow makes from a quarter an inch ftom a basketball. He asked me for a picture or video. I said but what shape do you think the shadow would be? He said it was impossible. i asked him to clarify, if he meant the shadow would disappear, or if it would turn into a triangle or square. He became angry and burst out how it didnt matter anyway. Hes like an NPC meme with no internal monologue. He will not be going on any podcast, as entertaining as that would be.