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The contradiction that proves the earth is flat.

submitted by McNasty to SPACEisFAKEandGAY 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 22:27:20 ago (+5/-12)     (SPACEisFAKEandGAY)

https://www.millersville.edu/physics/experiments/058/#:~:text=Eratosthenes%27%20model%20depends%20on%20the,is%20sketched%20at%20the%20right.

Eratosthenes experiment will not work if his assumptions are replaced with claims from NASA.

Eratosthenes analyzed the observations with the assumption that the earth is a sphere and the sun is very far away. The geometry of the situation is sketched at the right. He concluded that the circumference of the earth was about 50 times greater than the distance from Alexandria to Aswan. His results and modern results agree within about 10%.

https://files.catbox.moe/z0vik8.gif

So assuming that the sun's rays are parallel, he was able to predict the circumference of the earth within 10% of what modern science claims it is.

What does modern science claim about the sun's rays?

https://files.catbox.moe/hk2wkv.png

Now we have a problem. If Eratosthenes's assumption was that the sun's rays were parallel, then NASA's explanation for how we see an eclipse as we do cannot be correct.

So if we invoke Eratosthenes's assumption, we'd have to deny NASA claim.

Let's look at Eratosthenes's experiment with different assumptions.

Eratosthenes' model depends on the assumption that the sun is far away and therefore produces parallel rays of light all over the earth. If the sun is nearby, then shadows will change length even for a flat earth. A flat earth model is sketched at the right. The vertical stick casts shadows that grow longer as the stick moves to the left, away from the closest point to the sun. (The sun is at height h above the earth.)

https://files.catbox.moe/gcmq76.gif

So it turns out that Eratosthenes' experiment can absolutely suggest a flat earth.

The contradiction:

We can not simultaneously accept an experiment based on parallel rays to prove the earth is a ball while accepting the umbra during an eclipse is caused by rays that do not run parallel.

This is 1984 level sheeping if you do.



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[ - ] chrimony 8 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 22:41:56 ago (+9/-1)

"You have an endless series of flattard phenomena that you demand an answer to, which when you receive the answer, you will immediately dismiss, and then move on to the next one. Meanwhile, you can't explain something as simple and fundamental as the night sky."

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 22:47:42 ago (+3/-4)

You have an endless series of flattard phenomena that you demand an answer to

No. I don't need an answer. I know that the earth is flat. I'm just pointing out that you have to actively contradict yourself to believe it's a ball.

So which is it, are the sun's rays parallel like Eratosthenes assumed or can they create an umbra shadow like NASA claims?

Can't have both.

[ - ] chrimony 7 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 22:54:14 ago (+8/-1)

No. I don't need an answer. I know that the earth is flat.

Of course. You have flattard religion. No amount of reason or evidence changes that. But you do DEMAND answers, or claim victory by default if they aren't given. But then...

"You have an endless series of flattard phenomena that you demand an answer to, which when you receive the answer, you will immediately dismiss, and then move on to the next one. Meanwhile, you can't explain something as simple and fundamental as the night sky."

So which is it, are the sun's rays parallel like Eratosthenes assumed or can they create an umbra shadow like NASA claims?

You got an answer to your stupid basketball moon post, and now you move on to this shit. So:

"Now that your challenge has been answered, and the "impossible" made possible, explain:

1) As illustrated in the video, how the moon phases make sense if it's not a sphere.
2) Why lunar eclipses always occur when the sun and moon are at opposite ends of the horizon.
3) Why the entire sky can be predicted using nothing but spinning spheres, light rays, and F=ma, but flattards have no predictive model.

That includes:
- lunar eclipses
- solar eclipses
- star positions
- planet positions
- moon and sun positions

And explains:
- the seasons
- the tides
- the equinoxes

All with a simple model that actually works. Where's the flattard equivalent?"

[ - ] McNasty [op] -3 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:04:51 ago (+2/-5)

You have flattard religion.

Projection from a kike faggot that can't tell me if it's Eratosthenes' model that's correct or if it's NASA's model?

Which one faggot? They can't both be correct.

[ - ] chrimony 6 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:18:04 ago (+7/-1)

Projection from a kike faggot that can't tell me if it's Eratosthenes' model that's correct or if it's NASA's model?

Just like your basketball moon, your flattard brain is confused. Note no matter how many answers you get, you ignore them and come back with more demands. Yet you fail to provide an answer to the post you're replying to: "Where's the flattard equivalent?"

I answered your basketball moon challenge. I can answer your Eratosthenes challenge. But you can't provide a working flattard model.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:21:40 ago (+2/-4)

Just like your basketball moon

I made a post about how it was impossible for the earth to cast a curved shadow onto the moon and all you wanted to talk about was the moon's shadow on the Earth. Like a dishonest kike. Now I make a post about the moon's shadow on the earth and all you want to talk about is the experiment that proves the earth can't cast a curved shadow one of the Moon.

Why don't you get your post straight and answer the question faggot?

Who's wrong?

Eratosthenes or NASA? They can't both be right. All you can do is ignore the inconsistency. Like a bad religion.

[ - ] chrimony 4 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:29:18 ago (+5/-1)

I made a post about how it was impossible for the earth to cast a curved shadow onto the moon and all you wanted to talk about was the moon's shadow on the Earth. Like a dishonest kike.

Dishonest kike says what now? Here's what you said: "As of right now, It's impossible for a ball to cast a curved shadow onto another ball."

So, after all your wailing and moaning, you were provided with an example: https://files.catbox.moe/8zrb8x.jpg

Now what's your response? You rewrite history and move the goalposts.

Why don't you get your post straight and answer the question faggot?

How many questions do we have to answer, when you just ignore the answers and come up with new ones? When you can't provide answers to a request for a working flattard model?

Come up with a working flattard model, and I will answer your latest flattard challenge. Otherwise fuck off, you have no standing. All your flattard challenges will be met with the same response.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:32:44 ago (+2/-4)

Why do you keep trying to talk about a different post? If you want to address that post go to it's thread.

This post is about Eratosthenes and NASA.

So which one is wrong? They can't both be right.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:34:01 ago (+2/-4)

So, after all your wailing and moaning, you were provided with an example: https://files.catbox.moe/8zrb8x.jpg

This just shows how dishonest of kike you are. The subject was about a lunar eclipse. Not a solar eclipse. We went over this multiple times and yet you still use the same dishonest argument.

[ - ] chrimony 3 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:36:36 ago (+4/-1)

"As of right now, It's impossible for a ball to cast a curved shadow onto another ball."

That's you, flattard. Dishonest kike.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:39:20 ago (+2/-4)

That's you, flattard. Dishonest kike.

This is the claim I made.

This experiment proves that either a, The moon is not a sphere, or b, The earth is not casting its shadow on the moon during an eclipse.

You want to dishonest argue a completely different scenario.
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[ - ] deleted -3 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 10:34:27 ago (+1/-4)

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[ - ] chrimony 2 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 11:13:07 ago (+3/-1)

You don't answer anything.

Flattard projects, and ignores an answer in the very post he is replying to, just like the other flattard.

Also, catbox doesn't work for anyone on a VPN.

Not my fault they use shit VPNs. Working around censorship is a required skill for dissidents.

No, you.

We have one, flattard. You can get an accurate prediction for the location of the sun, moon, planets, and stars overhead for any location and time on Earth, all based on a simple spherical Earth model, light, and F=ma. Where's the flattard equivalent?

[ - ] deleted -3 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 11:14:09 ago (+1/-4)

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[ - ] deleted 0 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 10:41:37 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] deleted -3 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 10:31:56 ago (+1/-4)

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[ - ] McNasty [op] 2 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 15:11:28 ago (+3/-1)

Sry bush. My earlier reply was meant for a different comment.

But it's pretty telling wouldn't you say, that bringing attention to a basic contradiction would get the negative attention we see with this subject. This place is a designed echo chamber. They want to keep our red pills, that are naturally going to sound anti-semitic, in a tight little box closed off from the world. They promote and often post extreme anti- semitic content with no real meat keeping this place unapproachable to the normie. So the kikes are fine with us sharing information with a group that already knows it. That's what they built this place for. What they can't have is people questioning flat earth here. The subject implicates something more than just "kikes being kikes." It suggests a much larger conspiracy. The Bible tells us of Babylon. That's the key to understanding why and how such a conspiracy could happen. It will also explain who exactly these people are that claim they are jews but are not, but of the synagogue of satan. They practice Kabbalah, the Babylonian religion. They created a book of laws based on it called the talmud And followed that instead of God's law, the Torah. They despise God and his righteousness, and pose as God's chosen people specifically to discredit the true chosen. But they are just one part playing a role. The Babylonians that had to separate are all the major religions and institutions. From Masons to Jesuits. All of them are the Babylonians. They view each other as brothers under one purpose. That purpose has never changed.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 15:19:21 ago (+1/-2)

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[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 10:36:26 ago (+0/-2)

This post is about a contradiction you fool.

Who's right, Eratosthenes or NASA? They can't both be right.

[ - ] deleted -3 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 10:30:18 ago (+0/-3)

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[ - ] correctness 4 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 22:53:46 ago (+5/-1)

You sound like flat Earth guru.

So I have question. Everyday people on East coast watching sun diving in to Ocean, but if they call to people on West coast they will show in real time vid, that sun is still up in sky.

So do you think we have many suns under dome or this is some jewish trickery?

[ - ] Outlaw_Aryan 1 point 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:01:40 ago (+2/-1)

Definitely JOOish trickery!

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:12:13 ago (+3/-4)

If you're looking for jewish trickery, you should probably look at the jewish institutions that are telling you the earth is a ball. Not the people getting disclaimers under their content. Unless you believe the government is doing a great job with handling disinformation.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 22:59:29 ago (+3/-5)

One sun. It's a lot smaller than we are told. Daylight is a combination of direct light and ionized gases. The ionized gases outreach the direct light. We see daytime as a bubble of light. There are times when you can clearly see both day and night 180° from each other.

Like this.

https://youtu.be/vJYuiDiyfrM?si=XRCZgTqKEWcfcWTY

[ - ] correctness 0 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 05:02:42 ago (+2/-2)

It doesn't fly away. You can clearly see that sun goes under water

https://qu.ax/Kden.jpg

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 09:23:13 ago (+2/-3)

Thanks for explaining that. Now explain the contradiction I made a post about.

Is Eratosthenes correct or NASA? They can't both be.

[ - ] correctness 0 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 21:11:27 ago (+0/-0)

I'm fucking noob and don't have any clue about all this flat stuff. I just want to know why sun sinks in ocean instead of flying away.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 21:29:16 ago (+1/-2)

I just want to know why sun sinks in ocean instead of flying away.

Perspective

I'm fucking noob and don't have any clue about all this flat stuff.

Cool man. That means you probably know more about the globe than me. Maybe you can answer this question.

Was Eratosthenes correct in assuming the sun's rays are parallel if NASA says the sun's rays create an umbra when it casts the Earth's shadow onto the moon?

[ - ] yesiknow 2 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 04:23:12 ago (+3/-1)

Fuck off kike

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 09:21:45 ago (+2/-3)

I named two positive claims that contradict each other. I get called a kike for doing so. Lol.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 00:17:54 ago (+3/-2)

OP's brain is flat.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 00:20:07 ago (+3/-4)

Well, none of you kikes ever have any answers so who gives a fuck.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 00:24:53 ago (+2/-1)

Okay, howabout this for an answer:

A sea captain sailed west. He kept sailing west for a year. He had adventures; got attacked by nigger pirates, after egyptian cops stole his boat for awhile. He sailed west more and more, had further adventures, and then somehow magically avoided falling over the edge and came back to this very same marina.

He must have traversed the underside of the flat earth. And just interacting with you is making me moar reatardudor!

[ - ] deleted -1 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 10:39:14 ago (+2/-3)

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[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 01:14:49 ago (+2/-4)

You do realize how retarded that is? This just shows your utter disingenuous in the argument. No flat earther anywhere ever claims anyone goes on the reverse side of an imaginary pancake floating through space. And if you have ever talked to a Flat Earther you would already know this. It just seems like you're a kike shill with a reddit script.

If you can imagine outer space as some infinite vacuum that expands forever, then just imagine that same space has a floor. In the middle of that floor is a magnet. Your compass will point to that magnet. If you head west, it is a circle around that magnet because the compass will always correct as it will always point to the magnet.

[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 01:27:00 ago (+4/-1)

Why would I talk to a flerfer? Fucking retarded niggers.

But here I am doing just that. Whatever, jewnigger.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 01:33:47 ago (+2/-3)

But here I am doing just that. Whatever, jewnigger.

Exactly. You're a kike with an agenda. Instead of acknowledging the content of the post, you made a retarded comment that had nothing to do with it. You assume that if a flat earth exists that it has to exist in your version of outer space. It's like you were asking me to prove that reindeers can't fly while assuming Santa Claus still delivers the presents every year. I'm telling you there's a whole different explanation as to why they are presents under the tree.

Now about the post.

Eratosthenes' assumption cannot be correct if NASA's claim about the eclipse is correct.

Parallel rays cannot produce an umbra. So which is correct? Eratosthenes or NASA?

[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 0 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:53:04 ago (+3/-3)

flatearth is a psyop,dont fall for this crap. is as bad as the nibiru tards and the annunakitards.

i know because i have been to some of these forums and they post lots false info.

there was a post from dude in a mid 2000's that claimed that the nibiru was about to come out of the south pole (lol) and many people in that forum believed the lie and a tiny few didnt and later on the guy fessed up that it was all an "experiment" to see how people would fall for the lie.

there are plenty of deepfakes on youtube about a second sun and all bullshit. dont fall for it. its an agenda to snare you in to the stupid

oh and yes the whole thing is a cult of sorts

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday 3 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 13:14:11 ago (+3/-0)

You are a nigger

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 00:00:46 ago (+3/-3)

i know because i have been to some of these forums and they post lots false info.

So. I made a post about 2 positive claims that cannot coexist.

Either A, Eratosthenes' assumption was correct and the sun's rays are parallel or B, NASA is correct and the sun's rays can create an umbra.

They cannot both be correct. Which one is correct?

[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz -1 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 00:05:59 ago (+1/-2)

They cannot both be correct. Which one is correct?

none of your assertions are correct,sorry to say this to you but its the truth. the earth is a globe.

you cant even explain the high and low angles from the sun during the equinoxes and solstices. the position of the stars at the different times of the seasons etc etc

👀

[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 00:10:25 ago (+3/-2)

you cant even explain

I'm challenging two positive claims that cannot coexist.

The sun's rays cannot both be parallel and create an umbra shadow at the same time.

Stop making this post about something else.

Which one is correct? They can't both be correct.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 10:45:09 ago (+3/-2)

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[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz -1 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 12:13:46 ago (+0/-1)

The night sky should never look the same twice, but it has looked the same for tens of thousands of years of recorded history.

no it doesnt. can you see the difference, even a 5th grader can notice this

https://www.varsitytutors.com/5th_grade_science-help/reveal-patterns-in-seasonal-appearance-of-stars#:~:text=Different%20seasons%20bring%20different%20constellations,views%20of%20the%20night%20sky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqm-eb56x-Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXTVKXJ94sw

[ - ] deleted 0 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 13:50:21 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 01:31:03 ago (+1/-1)

flatearth is a psyop

Fine. But..

annunakitards.

Now you're just taking all of the fun out of it.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 7 monthsSep 13, 2023 10:42:55 ago (+2/-2)

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[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:04:20 ago (+1/-1)

Okay this bit is dumb

"sun are all going in the same direction; they are parallel."

Why make that assumption?

As soon as light travels through a liquid or gas it bends.

So the rest is invalid

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 7 monthsSep 12, 2023 23:08:28 ago (+3/-3)

So the rest is invalid

So you think it's absolutely invalid for anyone to ever claim that Eratosthenes' observation proves the earth is round? Because he did not account for any such things as refraction. His observation was based purely on the assumption that the sun's rays were parallel. I personally Don't think he had any business assuming this and would agree that his observation is invalid.