"The Church says that the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in the shadow than in the Church."
—Ferdinand Magellan, c. 1510
A selenelion eclipse occurs roughly once every 30 years. Ferdinand was so retarded, he made his claim without ever acknowledging that every 30 years, there's a lunar eclipse with both the moon and the sun above the horizon that proves it is not the earth that creates the eclipse. He didn't lose his faith in the church. He never had it. He's a Babylonian kike.
Now I know you have some kike science you'd like to produce that can explain yet another persistent illusion. Lol. You faggots have 6 million of them.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 17:01:39 ago (+5/-4)
Flattard already knows this is because of refraction, and it only occurs near the horizon, proving that it's related to refraction.
He can only trout out these fringe cases instead of dealing with the everyday reality: the sun, moon, stars, and planets are exactly where they're supposed to be according to the spherical Earth model. No corresponding flattard model exists, because flattard Earth is for delusional morons.
Flattard already knows this is because of refraction
Please show me Ferdinand Magellan's work with refraction. The guy dropped his faith in God because he knew the earth's round shadow was cast on to the moon. For one, that's not even how shadows work. A ball would not cast a crescent shadow onto another ball. It would only cast a straight line because they are both balls. Regardless, the guy dropped his faith so he must have had some kind of explanation for the selenelion eclipse. Was he preaching refraction in the 1500s?
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:17:26 ago (+3/-2)
Who fucking cares? We live in the 21st century.
It's proof that there was an effort to promote a ball earth before there was ever any supposed evidence. A world famous explorer denounced his faith in God because over this. The earth is a ball, therefore God doesn't exist. You just seem like a retarded faggot if you can't see the problem here.
Did he even know about it?
He's Magellan. A world famous explorer. He paid attention to the sky so much that he denounced his faith in God over something he assumed was a shadow of earth. If you're telling me he had no idea about repeating celestial events yet was able to use stars to navigate then I will call you an idiot.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 23:32:59 ago (+2/-1)
It's proof that there was an effort to promote a ball earth before there was ever any supposed evidence.
It's proof you're a retard. You think one rare event, that he may or may not have saw, discounts all the other evidence he had for a round Earth.
A world famous explorer denounced his faith in God because over this. The earth is a ball, therefore God doesn't exist. You just seem like a retarded faggot if you can't see the problem here.
He probably had other reasons to doubt Yahweh's existence. The (((Bible))) is Hebrew cartoon mythology.
He's Magellan. A world famous explorer. He paid attention to the sky so much that he denounced his faith in God over something he assumed was a shadow of earth. If you're telling me he had no idea about repeating celestial events yet was able to use stars to navigate then I will call you an idiot.
Given it's a rare event, it's quite possible he did not come across it. And even if he did, if he noticed it only happened at the horizons, he's not a flattard like you and can weigh the evidence, and assume an anomaly has a simpler explanation than flattard Earth. After all, he could use the stars to navigate, and they appear to rotate as you travel the Earth.
Learn to navigate the oceans using nothing but the stars and get back to me, flattard.
discounts all the other evidence he had for a round Earth.
Like what? Are you just gonna name the dumb shit that isn't exclusive to a ball?
And it's a celestial event that happens every 30 years like clockwork. You think the guy was too stupid to know about it. I agree, I think he's stupid too. Glad you brought him up.
He probably had other reasons to doubt Yahweh's existence.
Please share. You're the one that quoted the guy. I personally thought it was irrelevant. But I had to point out to you why it was irrelevant. Now you agree that it was irrelevant. But now you're assuming he has other reasons for denouncing God. You can't name any of them. But you definitely assume that. You're good at assuming.
The (((Bible))) is Hebrew cartoon mythology.
No. You're just incapable of discerning what kabbala kikery is. The whole reason Yeshua was born was because all the kikes were practicing kabbala and YHWH didn't like that evil shit and needed someone to reintroduce the old covenant they had before kabbala took over. They murdered him. Ever since that, they've tried to corrupt the message Yeshua gave. If you were smart, you would connect that everything in history is connected to the Bible. So whether you believe the Bible or not is irrelevant. The people that rule the world do. And they're kabbala kikes and they believe YHWH exists and they believe they can defeat him. The occult symbolism says it all and it's all over the place throughout history.
Given it's a rare event, it's quite possible he did not come across it.
Was he too busy binge watching Netflix? The guy's an explorer. He would have absolutely read about a celestial event that happens every 30 years and he would have definitely made it a point to see such a thing, if he was a genuine explorer and not some lying kabbala like.
And even if he did, if he noticed it only happened at the horizons, he's not a flattard like you and can weigh the evidence,
Lol. What's the evidence? You're literally telling me that seeing the moon and the sun above the horizon is evidence of a lunar eclipse? We have just reached a nuclear level of retardation.
I could explain to you and give you repeatable experiments that you could do yourself that shows you exactly how refraction works. As light travels from one medium to a denser medium, it will bend. Since the denser medium has more matter per area, there is more obstruction for the light to pass through. Therefore, the light is bent outwards in all directions creating a magnifying effect to the observer. The denser the medium, the larger the lens effect will be. Compare a glass of water to a glass of syrup. Stick a pencil in both. Both will magnify the image of the pencil. The pencil in the syrup will appear larger than the pencil in the water. In no way does refraction project an image above its objective location. It's a lens effect. The horizon is the bottom of the lens. The image being magnified will cut off at the bottom. This is how refraction works regardless of the shape of the earth.
Learn to navigate the oceans using nothing but the stars and get back to me
Are you really that stupid? Seeing the stars move above you is relatively the same as seeing you move under the stars. Just because you see movement in the sky does not mean you are the one moving. And Flat Earth cultures have been navigating this world way longer than globtards. Unless you're one of those dumb faggots that Believe Christopher Columbus discovered America. Hooray! History books.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 02:27:11 ago (+2/-1)
Like what? Are you just gonna name the dumb shit that isn't exclusive to a ball?
I've already told you countless times before, even in this very thread -- even in the very post you are replying to, flattard. But the mountain of everyday ordinary evidence bounces off your smooth brain.
But now you're assuming he has other reasons for denouncing God. You can't name any of them.
I didn't bother. Just take Noah's Ark as one simple example. Are you convinced by this childish Heeb mythology of Yahweh's existence?
YHWH didn't like that evil shit
Lulz. So you think Yahweh, the god of Israel, is real. Ok then, flattard.
Was he too busy binge watching Netflix? The guy's an explorer.
It's a matter of chance, 'tard. Being in the right place at the right time.
What's the evidence? You're literally telling me that seeing the moon and the sun above the horizon is evidence of a lunar eclipse?
Are they right next to each other in the sky, 'tard, or are they at the opposite ends near the horizon?
I could explain to you and give you repeatable experiments that you could do yourself that shows you exactly how refraction works. As light travels from one medium to a denser medium, it will bend.
Wow, you can understand grade school science for a change. Yet you can't apply it rigorously, lest your tiny flattard brain explode.
Seeing the stars move above you is relatively the same as seeing you move under the stars. Just because you see movement in the sky does not mean you are the one moving.
You're missing the point, flattard. I'm not talking about the regular 24 hour rotation. I'm talking about the apparent rotation that occurs as you sail the seas. Accounting for this is how you celestially navigate.
And Flat Earth cultures have been navigating this world way longer than globtards.
It took Europeans to do so reliably with accuracy, because they properly mapped and measured, and know the Earth is a sphere. Except for smooth brain flattards like you, who would rather ape primitive cultures.
I don't think you understand what the words exclusive or evidence means. All you keep doing is repeating the same bullshit. You haven't said anything. You just keep telling me that you said something. I assure you, you did not.
Exclusive - excluding or not admitting other things.
Now show me the exclusive evidence you claim proves the earth as a ball.
Are you convinced by this childish Heeb mythology of Yahweh's existence?
I don't subscribe to corrupt scriptures. If you learn about Kabbalah kikes, then it's easy to see what they corrupted.
So you think Yahweh, the god of Israel, is real.
For one, biblical Israel has nothing to do with modern Israel but I do believe there's a creator. Regardless, where is your God? Or is your God just primordial goop? Lol. Some clever little goop.
It's a matter of chance, 'tard
No. It's a matter of education. As a navigator, you would educate yourself on celestial movements and events. Shit's been documented forever. What the fuck do you think the Mayan calendar is? Celestial movement and events mapped out on a flat earth model calendar.
or are they at the opposite ends near the horizon?
I don't think you understand what an eclipse is.
Eclipse - an obscuring of the light from one celestial body by the passage of another between it and the observer or between it and its source of illumination.
Keyword -between-
I'm talking about the apparent rotation that occurs as you sail the seas.
I'm telling you that the stars rotate above the earth. You're telling me that the earth rotates beneath the stars. It is the same thing from relative perspectives. It is not exclusive to a ball or a flat Earth. Why do you keep bringing it up?
It took Europeans to do so reliably with accuracy, because they properly mapped and measured,
So are you saying they were more retarded than the savages that built pyramids all over the world?
properly mapped and measured
Don't know if you noticed but maps are flat.
Just do me a favor. Look into the word exclusive. That's all I'm asking. I just want you to understand what the word exclusive means.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 03:42:10 ago (+2/-1)
I don't think you understand what the words exclusive or evidence means.
Flattard is projecting, as usual. You make multiple posts about a relatively rare lunar eclipse anomaly that's easily explained, but ignore something as basic as two poles on a spherical Earth, one pole in Flattard Land: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ZMZtq0qfY
I don't subscribe to corrupt scriptures. If you learn about Kabbalah kikes, then it's easy to see what they corrupted.
But you believe the self-serving cartoon Heeb mythology of Yahweh, the god of Israel. Kike on, flattard.
Regardless, where is your God?
I don't invent mythology to satisfy a need for answers, flattard. An all-powerful being that wanted me to be aware of its existence could easily do so, yet all we have are human sock puppets that claim to speak for "God".
Keyword -between-
Keywords: Refraction, horizon. Why is it you can't see both near each other during a lunar eclipse? Why is it always near opposite ends of the horizon, flattard? Why is it that modern science can tell you exactly where and when this events will happen, but flattards like you can only gawp?
I'm telling you that the stars rotate above the earth. You're telling me that the earth rotates beneath the stars. It is the same thing from relative perspectives. It is not exclusive to a ball or a flat Earth. Why do you keep bringing it up?
Because you're completely retarded and can't understand the actual point I'm making, even after I tell you over and over I'm NOT talking about the daily 24-hour rotation. Rather, I'm talking about the apparent rotation that YOU choose by moving in a given direction on the surface of the Earth. Understanding this rotation is how the seas are celestially navigated.
Now you can come back with the same retarded asking point, or you can go through the Herculean effort of actually trying to think about the implications, flattard.
So are you saying they were more retarded than the savages that built pyramids all over the world?
Lulz. Did the Egyptians colonize the world? Did the Polynesians? No, it was the Europeans. But I guess mastering flight and building modern civilization isn't impressive, because some savages managed to island hop or pile a bunch of rocks on top of each other. Oonga boonga! It is balloon!
That's what's in question you retard. I asked you for proof. All you did was link a video to Star trails. Your dogma is that we came from a big bang and are constantly expanding away from everything in the universe. Yet somehow the stars remain the same distance apart relative to each other forever. This is just another stubborn illusion I guess. The lack of any parallax between the stars themselves proves my point. And you can't say "they're too far away to notice" because their parallax would be relative to each other. This means that if you record a star trail at night, and focus on a single star, that single star should appear to move twice the distance relative to a star twice its distance away. This is basic parallax.
But you believe the self-serving cartoon Heeb mythology of Yahweh
No. Kabbalah kikes tricked you onto dismissing it because you are gullible. They got you to believe pressure can exist next to a vacuum without a barrier. That's how dumb you are.
I don't invent mythology to satisfy a need for answers
So intelligent goop it is. Fascinating. The goop that always was.
I'm talking about the apparent rotation that YOU choose by moving in a given direction on the surface of the Earth.
I get what you're saying now. I assumed you were saying this at first, but I also thought that was really retarded because their videos debunking this. So surely you can't have that as proof because there's not a single example of your claim existing. But there is an example of what you're claiming being proven wrong.
Now that we're to established that you're a moron and that begging the question is not proof of anything let's move on.
Keywords: Refraction,
You have yet to provide a single example of this phenomenon occurring anywhere else except the begging of the question that you are attempting. I provided you with the correct explanation on how refraction works and examples that can be repeated and verified by yourself with nothing more than two glasses, water, syrup, and two pencils.
You have given me, "You can see the moon because of refraction, You know it's refraction because you can see the moon." You have to realize this is retard think.
Now you can come back with the same retarded asking point,
I presented you videos that 100% debunked your claim. You're just going to ignore it though.
Did the Egyptians colonize the world? Did the Polynesians? No, it was the Europeans.
You're really smart. Did you learn all that in school? Lol. Tell me about the Holocaust too. I heard that was a thing in the history book. Did they teach you about the ancient aliens yet? It's the only way all these ancient symbols and architecture could be found all over the world. Aliens man.
No, it was the Europeans.
Christopher Columbus to be exact. I know this because I remember learning this in history class. So don't tell me I'm wrong faggot.
Cool story. But that would mean that a globe is more accurate than a map. Unfortunately, that's not the case in reality. That's not me saying it. That's globemaker saying it.
Can you show me any flat earth maps like the Gleason that have this same disclaimer on it? And no, Gleason's map was not a projection from the globe. Gleason was openly a flat earther and used other flat earth maps to help him create his.
This has nothing to do with what I said and shows you to be little more than a either a dumb as fuck retarded nigger or a disingenuous filthy fucking nigger.
The reason why he experienced position errors was because the grid isn't square, because the earth is a globe. It proves my fucking point, asshat.
Lol. You're too dumb to process the information. Cook proved that south of the equator is bigger than we are told.
Cook circumvented The Earth only once in his epic 63,000 mile journey, but The Earth is supposed to be 24,000 miles in circumference. This speaks volumes.
“The ice extended east and west far beyond the reach of our sight, while the southern half of the horizon was illuminated by rays of light which were reflected from the ice to a considerable height. It was indeed my opinion that this ice extends quite to the pole, or perhaps joins some land to which it has been fixed since creation.”
This is the only quote by Cook in that whole fucking retard tiered article.
Hey dumb fuck, I didn't say a single word about a quote. The sauce I was referring to was the distance traveled compared to the circumference of the Earth.
No, you retarded assed dick bag. That's not Cook actually suggested. It's what your stupid fucking drooling idiot of a writer suggested.
At no time did Cook ever suggest the earth was flat, that he traveled 63,000 miles in one straight distance, or that the south part of the earth was a greater distance than the north.
In fact, even in your own fucking article, Cook refers to the south pole.
I never said cook suggested it. I'm saying the numbers prove it. You can tell me you're not a faggot all day, but the number of dicks you suck says otherwise.
They are not arbitrary you retarded mutant faggot. They are precise. They are unambiguous. And they are located in precise locations all over the globe. Geolocations are determinate and verified thousands of times, every single day, with no anomaly. And, with today's technology, they can be determined within inches using equipment that you can buy on the cheap.
And, there are numerous ways that the distance can be and is measured every single day. Measured on a map? Is that the best that you can come up with, ya fuckin' idiot?
Holy shit! Did you even finish the 6th fucking grade? How are you able to fucking read words?
Why should anyone expect to be spoonfed 6th grade level information?
You're too fucking stupid to understand how distances can be measured without a map or measuring tape. In the current fucking year. With the googles on the interwebs. All this information available to you and yet without a map or a measuring tape, you're at a total fucking loss about distance measurement. Yet, you want to insist that you know enough about anything to prove the earth isn't round (because you stupid faggots still don't understand that you aren't proving a flat earth by showing "not round" phenomenon). Again, you're either dumb as a fuckin' gibberish nigger, or simply a disingenuous fucking nigger.
We have to accept that their efforts to create a population of non-cognitives has been wildly successful. Remember that aphorism about why one shouldn't try to teach a pig to sing. (it wastes your time and annoys the pig)
If the dots on the earth that represent points of longitude and latitude were not precise, you could find anomaly, but you can't. Cause there isn't any.
Science is guided by the scientific method. You can perform the experiments, repeat the experiments and explore any anomalies to explain away instances where anomalies exist. Proof, using the scientific method, is very established. Sorry, faggot, you're simply either dumb as utter fuck, or a disingenuous fucking nigger. You pick.
Can you give me one proof that I can personally verify myself?
As of right now:
I don't feel like I'm spinning, but it's an illusion because I'm spinning at a thousand miles per hour and I have to have faith in this because there's no way for me to verify this myself.
Gravity can produce enough force to hold a car onto the earth yet balloons and birds are impervious. I'm told how gravity magically works but I'm also told that it doesn't work for over 95% of the universe. I don't even know how I'm supposed to have any faith in something that's 95% wrong. I guess that's just a lot of faith.
A pressurized atmosphere can't exist alongside a vacuum without a physical barrier. I'm told the atmosphere is held to the earth with gravity at gravity's weakest point when gravity has no effect on gases at its strongest point. Another illusion I guess.
I can see the entire city of Chicago from the shoreline of Michigan. I'm told that's because of refraction. Even though that's not how refraction works and the effect your claiming I am seeing cannot be reproduced. I have to take it on faith.
I can see a lunar eclipse with both the sun and the moon above the horizon. But you played the refraction card again. Another assumption that can't be reproduced. I got to have faith.
Water always finds its level. Engineers and surveyors have to assume the earth is flat when building everything. That's how persistent the illusion is.
Pilots and military personnel always have to assume a flat stationary plane when operating their equipment. Another illusion.
Radio waves work by line of sight. Even though you can point radio waves directly at an object hundreds of miles away and receive them, but this is possible because the radio waves apparently bounce off the ionosphere and land perfectly where you were pointing the straight line. Crazy ass illusion. Lol. And it's perfect no matter what distance you try.
You could tell me that the Holocaust is easily proven. I'm not a fuckin idiot though. I not going to accept a kike fairytale without absolute 100% proof. If you're going to make such a retarded claim, you better have sauce to back it up. When I say sauce, I mean observable repeatable phenomenon.
I'll leave you with this quote from kike Einstein.
"Since then I have come to believe that the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment, though the Earth is revolving around the Sun.”
Noticed how he clearly states that he did not find any proof, he asserts that heliocentrism is a fact.
"No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong."
So he says right here that he could never be proven, right.
“We cannot feel our motion through space, nor has any physical experiment ever proved that the Earth actually is in motion.”
Historian Lincoln Barnett, foreward by Faggot Einstein
And with this forward, he admits that not only is there no optical experiment, but he agrees that there is no physical experiment.
So what experiment would you suggest to someone that has zero faith in billionaire kikes and their institutions?
[ - ] I_am_baal 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 21:45:34 ago (+1/-0)*
I agree. Retardation makes verifying anything difficult. Hopefully one day he'll learn to do "complicated math" like simple trigonometry. That may require a brain transplant though.
Lol, no you. You tards are the only ones that define a globe with the math for a retarded parabola. When you look at a ball, does it look like this? https://files.catbox.moe/dqicp5.jpg
The equation that people who are not flattarded use is r^2 + d^2 = (h + r)^2 where r is the radius of the Earth and d is the distance in a straight line from ground level extending tangentially to the surface of the earth. h is the height above the ground that connects to the d line.
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 01:10:05 ago (+3/-2)
8 in per mile squared. That is your number. So shut the fuck up and deal with it faggot. There is 0 curvature. It's not measuring 7 in, 6 in, 9 in, or 10 in. It's supposed to measure 8 in, but it's not that. It's 0 in per mile squared you dumb faggot.
Lol, no, kike. That's your math (number? lol) that you imagine non-flat earthers use. I truly believe that you are exactly as stupid as you pretend to be.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 19:07:36 ago (+2/-1)
military personnel always have to assume a flat stationary plane when operating their equipment.
Guess what faggot? This isn't remotely true. Military snipers take into account earth's curvature AND rotation when trying to place a .3" piece of lead in a 6" target at over a mile.
You're dumb. This has been thoroughly debunked. Expert marksman have been interviewed. They deny ever accounting for Coriolis. Plus, if you want to invoke Coriolis you have to invoke it on airplanes, hot air balloons, and drones. Explain the lack of Coriolis for my drone?
Why would you feel like your spinning? This is the first clue that you're either dumb as fuck or a disingenuous fucking nigger. Have you never ridden in a car? Or an airplane?
Feelings of motion are a product of acceleration, not velocity.
Ballons filled with a substance that is lighter than air floats of the buoyancy overcomes the weight of the balloon material. A Ballon filled with air, falls at the exact same rate of gravity that holds you to the earth. A birds wings are shaped like an airfoil that creates a pressure differential, just like airplanes. Two more proofs that you're either a fucking idiot or a disingenuous fucking nigger.
You're proving that you don't know what the fuck a vacuum is or the difference between "a vacuum" and a relative vacuum caused by a difference in pressure.
You cannot see the ground in Chicago from Michigan. On some days you can see things that you can't see on other days because of the changing atmospheric conditions and refraction through the liquid of the atmosphere.
Level is defined as an equal distance from the center of the earth. Yes water find a Level around the point that is the center of gravity.
Pilots and military personnel only "assume" a flat earth when they are dealing with small distances relative to the size of the earth and do so to eliminate the insignificant variations caused by the round earth. Holy fuck are you stupid. The things that you are referring to here use that assumption to simplify experiments or design considerations.
Radios do not only use live of sight. Radios waves can and do bounce off the atmosphere, which is why simple ham Radios can talk to people over great distances. At extremely high frequencies, the signal does not bounce off the atmosphere, so you're limited to line of sight. Like cell phones in the gigahertz ranges.
Oh look, the holohoax reference. More fucking proof that you're a disingenuous fucking nigger tryna to play out the 4 Chan joke here. That shit is a decade old and is as dumb as fuck today as it was then. But does tend to show that you're likely either a filthy fucking jew or a filthy fucking jew dick sucker. The holohoax is fake and ghey.
Why the fuck are you quoting Einstein out of context?
I gave you a simple experiment that will absolutely prove you wrong. But you're too lazy as fuck to bother, which tends to prove that you're a disingenuous fucking nigger because if you actually did the experiment and showed the earth wasn't round, you'd be world renowned instead of a total fucking jaggoff on voat, acting like a disingenuous fucking nigger.
Then, you try and shift the goalposts. You said prove the earth is round, not prove the earth is in motion, which is simply a derivative. Once you agree the earth is round, other explained phenomenon can then be used to prove that we are moving.
And the last paragraph suggests that you simply cut and pasted this fucking drivel because I gave you a way to prove the earth is round using equipment you can buy for under $100 and if the world was flat, you'd make yourself millions with the fame. But, you don't. Why? Cause you're a filthy fucking disingenuous nigger.
Because I'm supposedly standing on a ball that's spinning a thousand miles per hour. Just like a rubber ball on a lazy susan, that motion is transferred to the ball. Every observable thing in reality dictates that I would notice yet I can calmly stack stones by a lake with level waters that creates a perfect mirror. Something that's impossible if the water was curved in the slightest.
Feelings of motion are a product of acceleration, not velocity.
Sure, but NASA even claims that the earth is constantly changing it's speed. But let's say that it's so slow we wouldn't notice. We would surely notice the increase in acceleration starting at dusk. You would not only be rotating on the Earth, but your position relative to the sun is changing. The fact that the sun and earth are both moving and both affect gravity, gravity would fluctuates so much I would certainly notice it.
That means there is constantly variation in acceleration. I've never once felt it.
Ballons filled with a substance that is lighter than air
I can fill a balloon up with helium and hold it on the floor. This is because I am applying a force to it. How much force does gravity apply to the Earth? Remember, this is a force that can prevent gas from leaving atmosphere. How much force is it?
You cannot see the ground in Chicago from Michigan.
This is because of the way refraction works in reality. Just like a pencil in a glass, the pencil will appear to be magnified. If you put the eraser of the pencil on the bottom of the glass, you will not see that eraser anymore. That does not mean that the glass is curved on the bottom. It means that the medium of water is bending light and creating a lens affect and making the object appear larger than it is. Since the size of your field view did not change, yet the image appears larger, you will not see the edges. What do we have in our atmos that very stay today? Water. This is a testable repeatable phenomenon. Where's yours?
You're proving that you don't know what the fuck a vacuum is or the difference between "a vacuum"
Lol. Definition of vacuum - a space entirely devoid of matter. Or you know, outer space.
relative vacuum caused by a difference in pressure.
This is just retarded. The word relative means - considered in relation or in proportion to something else.
So what the fuck are you using the word relative for? The only way matter and a vacuum can be relative to each other is if the matter is in a container. Otherwise, the second law of thermodynamic dictates that that matter will fill up the vacuum without a barrier.
Pilots and military personnel only "assume" a flat earth when they are dealing with small distances relative to the size of the earth
Prove it faggot. Every declassified document pertaining to military equipment says otherwise. I can find a link if you want to pretend like flat earthers haven't been posting the shit out of that for the last 10 years.
Level is defined as an equal distance from the center of the earth.
No. He's the definition.
Level - having a flat and even surface without slopes or bumps.
The holohoax is fake and ghey.
If you can find me one prominent physicist that tells me the world is a ball and the Holocaust is fake and gay, maybe I'll listen. Until then, you'll be glowing like the kike faggot you are.
Why the fuck are you quoting Einstein out of context?
You're too much of a kike to be on voat. Are you honestly defending Einstein? Lol. I think I called this yesterday.
I gave you a simple experiment that will absolutely prove you wrong.
Go turn it into Dave Weiss. He's offering 4 bitcoin for anybody that can prove the Earth is a ball. You seem to have a one up on everybody. You must be a smart guy.
Then, you try and shift the goalposts.
This is coming from the faggots that completely rely on untestable, unrepeatable unobservable, phenomenon to explain why everything we see is an illusion.
ot prove the earth is in motion, which is simply a derivative.
It's all part of the same thing you fuckin retard. I just want proof of one aspect of heliocentrism. You haven't provided anything but a map with lines drawn on it. A map is flat you retard. And the globe is inaccurate. It even says so on the bottom of the globes. "Not to be used for educational purposes."
$100 and if the world was flat,
I missed this part. Is the piece of paper with the picture on it $100 or the pencil? What kind of disingenuous nigger faggot spends an hour defending kikes then calles me a disingenuous nigger. Lol.
Again, the sensation of movement is caused by acceleration, not velocity. How do you not understand this?
There is an equation used to determine exactly the amount of force the earth's gravity put on matter at a distance. It's calculatable and varies with the height above sea level.
What do you care about what NASA says? I thought you think they lie.
Would you feel an aircraft change speed from 450 mph to 449.9995 mph?
The vacuum of space is the slave without matter, or very limited molecules of matter. Matter that simply hasn't been captured by a bodily gravity, yet. It most certainly can exist without physical barriers.
I did prove it. Military snipers that fire ultra long range (>1000 yards) are taught that at great distances there are accounts for curvature of the earth and earth's rotation, especially when planning shots over a mile.
Level - having a flat and even surface without slopes or bumps
Lol. No.
a horizontal plane or line with respect to the distance above or below a given point.
That given point is the center of gravity. And we see this exact thing happen with liquids in our higher atmosphere and in inner space.
Fuckin' dumbass.
An appeal to authority? I need to find one person with a science degree that says 2+2=4 AND denies the holocaust? Then, you'll listen. You're a fucking idiot.
Me asking why you're quoting Einstein is not me "defending Einstein" ya dick suckin' retard faggot.
Again, the sensation of movement is caused by acceleration, not velocity
Again, If you are spinning on a ball, and that ball is spinning around a sun, at some point in a day you will be on the ball and your relative position on the ball will be spinning with the direction the earth is moving relative to the sun, adding acceleration. There will also be a time in a day your relative position on the ball is moving against the Earth's relative movement around the Sun, thus decelerating your position. So once a day, we should fill both an acceleration and deceleration of movement. That's not even including all the other directions. Like the sun revolving around our galaxy. Our Galaxy revolving around whatever the fuck they tell you is out there. My point is, I don't know why you keep insisting I don't understand acceleration and velocity. Obviously you don't understand it.
There is an equation used to determine exactly the amount of force the earth's gravity put on matter at a distance. It's calculatable and varies with the height above sea level.
So. All they did was measure how fast an object drops. Not everything drops at the same speed. So they have an average. They call that average "little g." With all that math that you claim proves gravity, you could easily replace the "little g" with " agreed upon average of downward acceleration," or we can call it "little a." You don't understand that it can't be "little g" because it is over 95% wrong in the cosmos. You literally have to have faith that dark matter exists to invoke gravity. You're pretty stupid person. If you believe something exists simply because if it doesn't, it would mean that a jew lied about physics then you are either a jew yourself, or a really dumb faggot.
What do you care about what NASA says? I thought you think they lie.
Is this your first day talking about Flat Earth? It's called a hostile witness you dumb fagg. You used Eratosthenes as a proof. His assumptions contradict NASA's explanation for the moon's shadow. So who was wrong?
You just ignore it though. I don't get it. You gotta be a jew. They're the only ones that argue like that.
Would you feel an aircraft change speed from 450 mph to 449.9995 mph?
Show me how that's relevant? You're making assumptions just like Eratosthenes. As if traveling millions of miles per hour on multiple different orbits would be comparable to .0005 miles per hour in a plane. Lol. Boy you are dumb.
It most certainly can exist without physical barriers.
No. This is absolutely impossible. You cannot reproduce this phenomenon anywhere. It's just dumb that I'm even talking to you at this point. I think I already asked you for an example but you ignored it. You know, kikery as usual.
I did prove it. Military snipers that fire ultra long range
No you dumb faggot. All you did was ignore my rebuttal. It's thoroughly been debunked. Plus you would have to invoke coriola with airplanes, hot air balloons, and drones, you still didn't tell me where my Coriolis is with my drone. Lol. Just ignore it like a kike.
horizontal plane or line
Lol. Let's see what the word plane means.
Plane - a flat surface on which a straight line joining any two points on it would wholly lie.
Damn. It's right there in the definition you provided. FLAT SURFACE and STRAIGHT LINE. Who'd of thought? Lol.
that says 2+2=4 AND denies the holocaust?
No. I specifically said that they have to promote heliocentrism and deny the Holocaust. I don't have a problem with math. Math is an expression. You can express both truth and lies with it. Just like your words can express truth and lies. If you don't agree with this then I would say that you have sucked too many dicks. You sucked 7 dicks yesterday, 6 today, and tomorrow you plan on sucking 10 dick. You're an ambitious faggot. But the math says you've already sucked 13 dicks so by the end of tomorrow it will be 23 dicks.
You have to admit that by the end of tomorrow you will have sucked 23 dicks because 7+6+10=23. And you know how to do basic math right? You wouldn't disagree with it.
Me asking why you're quoting Einstein
Because I'm claiming heliocentrism is a lie. You're defending heliocentrism. Einstein is a rabbi of the cult. He's a hostile witness. You are defending him whether you like it or not by defending relativity. Unless you're suggesting that there's an entirely different model that you personally thought of that can explain how balls of rocks float the way they do in the vacuum of space. If not I'm going to assume you are of your father the devil and simply regurgitate babylonian propaganda.
Nigger. I proved the round earth. Your speculations why you think things aren't the way that they are didn't change simple facts.
The distance between 2 lines of longitude at 60° N and 60°S are about the same and both are less distance than the distance between the same two lines of longitude at the equator.
That proves round earth.
You not understanding physics, aerodynamics, buoyancy, gravity, refraction, etc. are just you being a fucking idiot or a disingenuous fucking nigger. Simple as.
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 12:55:51 ago (+2/-1)
I proved the round earth.
Dave Weiss is offering 4 Bitcoin for that proof. Go collect you dumb faggot. His YouTube channel is DIRTH. Go let him know.
The distance between 2 lines of longitude at 60° N and 60°S are about the same
Cool story. If only globes were accurate. Lol. So stupid that you don't even realize globes have a disclaimer on them. Flat maps do not.
You not understanding physics
You mean the theory of relativity? It's over 95% incorrect. You have to invoke faith in a substance called dark matter. You can't see it or detect it. The only reason you know it's there is because If it's not, it would mean a jew lied about physics. Are you defending Einstein's work?
gravity
Gravity is described as the bending of space time. There's no official explanation as to what causes the actual force. Your own rabbis admit this. So don't pretend like you understand what gravity is because it's a bunch of kike nonsense that they openly admit they can't explain.
You are simply begging the question as proof for your claim. What causes things to fall downward? Gravity. How do we know it's gravity? Because things fall downward.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 21:58:11 ago (+1/-0)
How are you this fucking dumb. If the centripetal acceleration in one direction is countered by the gravitational pull of the earth in the exact opposite direction, the sum is FUCKING ZERO and therfore you don't feel shit, ya fuckin' idiot.
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 13:00:55 ago (+2/-1)
Wouldn't the centripetal force fluctuate since we are told that the Earth's rotation varies? Does this mean that the gravity fluctuates with it? How does the gravity fluctuate with it?
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[ - ] chrimony 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 17:01:39 ago (+5/-4)
He can only trout out these fringe cases instead of dealing with the everyday reality: the sun, moon, stars, and planets are exactly where they're supposed to be according to the spherical Earth model. No corresponding flattard model exists, because flattard Earth is for delusional morons.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 17:07:28 ago (+2/-3)
Please show me Ferdinand Magellan's work with refraction. The guy dropped his faith in God because he knew the earth's round shadow was cast on to the moon. For one, that's not even how shadows work. A ball would not cast a crescent shadow onto another ball. It would only cast a straight line because they are both balls. Regardless, the guy dropped his faith so he must have had some kind of explanation for the selenelion eclipse. Was he preaching refraction in the 1500s?
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[ - ] chrimony 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:03:24 ago (+3/-2)
Who fucking cares? We live in the 21st century.
Did he even know about it? He also sailed the oceans, and I don't know of any oceanic explorer at that time that believed in flattard Earth.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:17:26 ago (+3/-2)
It's proof that there was an effort to promote a ball earth before there was ever any supposed evidence. A world famous explorer denounced his faith in God because over this. The earth is a ball, therefore God doesn't exist. You just seem like a retarded faggot if you can't see the problem here.
He's Magellan. A world famous explorer. He paid attention to the sky so much that he denounced his faith in God over something he assumed was a shadow of earth. If you're telling me he had no idea about repeating celestial events yet was able to use stars to navigate then I will call you an idiot.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 23:32:59 ago (+2/-1)
It's proof you're a retard. You think one rare event, that he may or may not have saw, discounts all the other evidence he had for a round Earth.
He probably had other reasons to doubt Yahweh's existence. The (((Bible))) is Hebrew cartoon mythology.
Given it's a rare event, it's quite possible he did not come across it. And even if he did, if he noticed it only happened at the horizons, he's not a flattard like you and can weigh the evidence, and assume an anomaly has a simpler explanation than flattard Earth. After all, he could use the stars to navigate, and they appear to rotate as you travel the Earth.
Learn to navigate the oceans using nothing but the stars and get back to me, flattard.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 01:48:12 ago (+2/-2)
Like what? Are you just gonna name the dumb shit that isn't exclusive to a ball?
And it's a celestial event that happens every 30 years like clockwork. You think the guy was too stupid to know about it. I agree, I think he's stupid too. Glad you brought him up.
Please share. You're the one that quoted the guy. I personally thought it was irrelevant. But I had to point out to you why it was irrelevant. Now you agree that it was irrelevant. But now you're assuming he has other reasons for denouncing God. You can't name any of them. But you definitely assume that. You're good at assuming.
No. You're just incapable of discerning what kabbala kikery is. The whole reason Yeshua was born was because all the kikes were practicing kabbala and YHWH didn't like that evil shit and needed someone to reintroduce the old covenant they had before kabbala took over. They murdered him. Ever since that, they've tried to corrupt the message Yeshua gave. If you were smart, you would connect that everything in history is connected to the Bible. So whether you believe the Bible or not is irrelevant. The people that rule the world do. And they're kabbala kikes and they believe YHWH exists and they believe they can defeat him. The occult symbolism says it all and it's all over the place throughout history.
Was he too busy binge watching Netflix? The guy's an explorer. He would have absolutely read about a celestial event that happens every 30 years and he would have definitely made it a point to see such a thing, if he was a genuine explorer and not some lying kabbala like.
Lol. What's the evidence? You're literally telling me that seeing the moon and the sun above the horizon is evidence of a lunar eclipse? We have just reached a nuclear level of retardation.
I could explain to you and give you repeatable experiments that you could do yourself that shows you exactly how refraction works. As light travels from one medium to a denser medium, it will bend. Since the denser medium has more matter per area, there is more obstruction for the light to pass through. Therefore, the light is bent outwards in all directions creating a magnifying effect to the observer. The denser the medium, the larger the lens effect will be. Compare a glass of water to a glass of syrup. Stick a pencil in both. Both will magnify the image of the pencil. The pencil in the syrup will appear larger than the pencil in the water. In no way does refraction project an image above its objective location. It's a lens effect. The horizon is the bottom of the lens. The image being magnified will cut off at the bottom. This is how refraction works regardless of the shape of the earth.
Are you really that stupid? Seeing the stars move above you is relatively the same as seeing you move under the stars. Just because you see movement in the sky does not mean you are the one moving. And Flat Earth cultures have been navigating this world way longer than globtards. Unless you're one of those dumb faggots that Believe Christopher Columbus discovered America. Hooray! History books.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 02:27:11 ago (+2/-1)
I've already told you countless times before, even in this very thread -- even in the very post you are replying to, flattard. But the mountain of everyday ordinary evidence bounces off your smooth brain.
I didn't bother. Just take Noah's Ark as one simple example. Are you convinced by this childish Heeb mythology of Yahweh's existence?
Lulz. So you think Yahweh, the god of Israel, is real. Ok then, flattard.
It's a matter of chance, 'tard. Being in the right place at the right time.
Are they right next to each other in the sky, 'tard, or are they at the opposite ends near the horizon?
Wow, you can understand grade school science for a change. Yet you can't apply it rigorously, lest your tiny flattard brain explode.
You're missing the point, flattard. I'm not talking about the regular 24 hour rotation. I'm talking about the apparent rotation that occurs as you sail the seas. Accounting for this is how you celestially navigate.
It took Europeans to do so reliably with accuracy, because they properly mapped and measured, and know the Earth is a sphere. Except for smooth brain flattards like you, who would rather ape primitive cultures.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 03:12:14 ago (+2/-2)
I don't think you understand what the words exclusive or evidence means. All you keep doing is repeating the same bullshit. You haven't said anything. You just keep telling me that you said something. I assure you, you did not.
Exclusive - excluding or not admitting other things.
Now show me the exclusive evidence you claim proves the earth as a ball.
I don't subscribe to corrupt scriptures. If you learn about Kabbalah kikes, then it's easy to see what they corrupted.
For one, biblical Israel has nothing to do with modern Israel but I do believe there's a creator. Regardless, where is your God? Or is your God just primordial goop? Lol. Some clever little goop.
No. It's a matter of education. As a navigator, you would educate yourself on celestial movements and events. Shit's been documented forever. What the fuck do you think the Mayan calendar is? Celestial movement and events mapped out on a flat earth model calendar.
I don't think you understand what an eclipse is.
Eclipse - an obscuring of the light from one celestial body by the passage of another between it and the observer or between it and its source of illumination.
Keyword -between-
I'm telling you that the stars rotate above the earth. You're telling me that the earth rotates beneath the stars. It is the same thing from relative perspectives. It is not exclusive to a ball or a flat Earth. Why do you keep bringing it up?
So are you saying they were more retarded than the savages that built pyramids all over the world?
Don't know if you noticed but maps are flat.
Just do me a favor. Look into the word exclusive. That's all I'm asking. I just want you to understand what the word exclusive means.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 03:42:10 ago (+2/-1)
Flattard is projecting, as usual. You make multiple posts about a relatively rare lunar eclipse anomaly that's easily explained, but ignore something as basic as two poles on a spherical Earth, one pole in Flattard Land: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ZMZtq0qfY
But you believe the self-serving cartoon Heeb mythology of Yahweh, the god of Israel. Kike on, flattard.
I don't invent mythology to satisfy a need for answers, flattard. An all-powerful being that wanted me to be aware of its existence could easily do so, yet all we have are human sock puppets that claim to speak for "God".
Keywords: Refraction, horizon. Why is it you can't see both near each other during a lunar eclipse? Why is it always near opposite ends of the horizon, flattard? Why is it that modern science can tell you exactly where and when this events will happen, but flattards like you can only gawp?
Because you're completely retarded and can't understand the actual point I'm making, even after I tell you over and over I'm NOT talking about the daily 24-hour rotation. Rather, I'm talking about the apparent rotation that YOU choose by moving in a given direction on the surface of the Earth. Understanding this rotation is how the seas are celestially navigated.
Now you can come back with the same retarded asking point, or you can go through the Herculean effort of actually trying to think about the implications, flattard.
Lulz. Did the Egyptians colonize the world? Did the Polynesians? No, it was the Europeans. But I guess mastering flight and building modern civilization isn't impressive, because some savages managed to island hop or pile a bunch of rocks on top of each other. Oonga boonga! It is balloon!
Flattard doesn't understand projection. Surprise, surprise.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 12:21:01 ago (+2/-2)
That's what's in question you retard. I asked you for proof. All you did was link a video to Star trails. Your dogma is that we came from a big bang and are constantly expanding away from everything in the universe. Yet somehow the stars remain the same distance apart relative to each other forever. This is just another stubborn illusion I guess. The lack of any parallax between the stars themselves proves my point. And you can't say "they're too far away to notice" because their parallax would be relative to each other. This means that if you record a star trail at night, and focus on a single star, that single star should appear to move twice the distance relative to a star twice its distance away. This is basic parallax.
No. Kabbalah kikes tricked you onto dismissing it because you are gullible. They got you to believe pressure can exist next to a vacuum without a barrier. That's how dumb you are.
So intelligent goop it is. Fascinating. The goop that always was.
I get what you're saying now. I assumed you were saying this at first, but I also thought that was really retarded because their videos debunking this. So surely you can't have that as proof because there's not a single example of your claim existing. But there is an example of what you're claiming being proven wrong.
https://youtu.be/xhVu5hRe3fk?si=bKS6FgKqA1zocjpR
https://youtu.be/sWaT0KGtoJs?si=6bEd1vezuPAYL9ta
Now that we're to established that you're a moron and that begging the question is not proof of anything let's move on.
You have yet to provide a single example of this phenomenon occurring anywhere else except the begging of the question that you are attempting. I provided you with the correct explanation on how refraction works and examples that can be repeated and verified by yourself with nothing more than two glasses, water, syrup, and two pencils.
You have given me, "You can see the moon because of refraction, You know it's refraction because you can see the moon." You have to realize this is retard think.
I presented you videos that 100% debunked your claim. You're just going to ignore it though.
You're really smart. Did you learn all that in school? Lol. Tell me about the Holocaust too. I heard that was a thing in the history book. Did they teach you about the ancient aliens yet? It's the only way all these ancient symbols and architecture could be found all over the world. Aliens man.
Christopher Columbus to be exact. I know this because I remember learning this in history class. So don't tell me I'm wrong faggot.
Cool story. But that would mean that a globe is more accurate than a map. Unfortunately, that's not the case in reality. That's not me saying it. That's globemaker saying it.
https://youtu.be/R_EwZfJ7e-w?si=_LJ4JK-wlVh-brVb
Can you show me any flat earth maps like the Gleason that have this same disclaimer on it? And no, Gleason's map was not a projection from the globe. Gleason was openly a flat earther and used other flat earth maps to help him create his.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -3 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 16:53:31 ago (+1/-4)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 2 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 16:58:58 ago (+3/-1)
What chapter and verse?
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 17:08:36 ago (+2/-3)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 17:25:35 ago (+3/-1)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 17:28:15 ago (+3/-3)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 17:33:06 ago (+3/-1)
The measurements at 60° n and 60° s will be the about the same and the measurement at the equator will be greater than both.
Enjoy satisfaction of having proven a round earth.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:22:58 ago (+2/-2)
About that.
https://gregorylessinggarrett.substack.com/p/captain-cooks-antarctic-journey-proves
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:30:31 ago (+3/-3)
The reason why he experienced position errors was because the grid isn't square, because the earth is a globe. It proves my fucking point, asshat.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:35:04 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:46:18 ago (+3/-1)
This is the only quote by Cook in that whole fucking retard tiered article.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 19:55:24 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:41:53 ago (+2/-2)
At no time did Cook ever suggest the earth was flat, that he traveled 63,000 miles in one straight distance, or that the south part of the earth was a greater distance than the north.
In fact, even in your own fucking article, Cook refers to the south pole.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 19:57:04 ago (+2/-2)
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 17:52:55 ago (+2/-3)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 17:59:28 ago (+3/-1)
And, there are numerous ways that the distance can be and is measured every single day. Measured on a map? Is that the best that you can come up with, ya fuckin' idiot?
Holy shit! Did you even finish the 6th fucking grade? How are you able to fucking read words?
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[ - ] deleted 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:21:01 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:37:39 ago (+3/-1)
You're too fucking stupid to understand how distances can be measured without a map or measuring tape. In the current fucking year. With the googles on the interwebs. All this information available to you and yet without a map or a measuring tape, you're at a total fucking loss about distance measurement. Yet, you want to insist that you know enough about anything to prove the earth isn't round (because you stupid faggots still don't understand that you aren't proving a flat earth by showing "not round" phenomenon). Again, you're either dumb as a fuckin' gibberish nigger, or simply a disingenuous fucking nigger.
[ + ] Hand_Of_Node
[ - ] Hand_Of_Node 3 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:48:48 ago (+3/-0)
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 20:00:06 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:06:38 ago (+3/-1)
Science is guided by the scientific method. You can perform the experiments, repeat the experiments and explore any anomalies to explain away instances where anomalies exist. Proof, using the scientific method, is very established. Sorry, faggot, you're simply either dumb as utter fuck, or a disingenuous fucking nigger. You pick.
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 20:03:46 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:04:22 ago (+3/-3)
As of right now:
I don't feel like I'm spinning, but it's an illusion because I'm spinning at a thousand miles per hour and I have to have faith in this because there's no way for me to verify this myself.
Gravity can produce enough force to hold a car onto the earth yet balloons and birds are impervious. I'm told how gravity magically works but I'm also told that it doesn't work for over 95% of the universe. I don't even know how I'm supposed to have any faith in something that's 95% wrong. I guess that's just a lot of faith.
A pressurized atmosphere can't exist alongside a vacuum without a physical barrier. I'm told the atmosphere is held to the earth with gravity at gravity's weakest point when gravity has no effect on gases at its strongest point. Another illusion I guess.
I can see the entire city of Chicago from the shoreline of Michigan. I'm told that's because of refraction. Even though that's not how refraction works and the effect your claiming I am seeing cannot be reproduced. I have to take it on faith.
I can see a lunar eclipse with both the sun and the moon above the horizon. But you played the refraction card again. Another assumption that can't be reproduced. I got to have faith.
Water always finds its level. Engineers and surveyors have to assume the earth is flat when building everything. That's how persistent the illusion is.
Pilots and military personnel always have to assume a flat stationary plane when operating their equipment. Another illusion.
Radio waves work by line of sight. Even though you can point radio waves directly at an object hundreds of miles away and receive them, but this is possible because the radio waves apparently bounce off the ionosphere and land perfectly where you were pointing the straight line. Crazy ass illusion. Lol. And it's perfect no matter what distance you try.
You could tell me that the Holocaust is easily proven. I'm not a fuckin idiot though. I not going to accept a kike fairytale without absolute 100% proof. If you're going to make such a retarded claim, you better have sauce to back it up. When I say sauce, I mean observable repeatable phenomenon.
I'll leave you with this quote from kike Einstein.
"Since then I have come to believe that the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment, though the Earth is revolving around the Sun.”
Noticed how he clearly states that he did not find any proof, he asserts that heliocentrism is a fact.
"No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong."
So he says right here that he could never be proven, right.
“We cannot feel our motion through space, nor has any physical experiment ever proved that the Earth actually is in motion.”
Historian Lincoln Barnett, foreward by Faggot Einstein
And with this forward, he admits that not only is there no optical experiment, but he agrees that there is no physical experiment.
So what experiment would you suggest to someone that has zero faith in billionaire kikes and their institutions?
[ + ] Hand_Of_Node
[ - ] Hand_Of_Node 5 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:51:56 ago (+5/-0)
There are none.
[ + ] I_am_baal
[ - ] I_am_baal 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 21:45:34 ago (+1/-0)*
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 22:52:50 ago (+1/-1)
STFU about math retard.
[ + ] I_am_baal
[ - ] I_am_baal 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 23:51:38 ago (+0/-0)*
To me, it looks more like this: https://files.catbox.moe/9pei0o.jpg
And here's how we can mathematically define the curve.
https://files.catbox.moe/lrri6o.png
The equation that people who are not flattarded use is r^2 + d^2 = (h + r)^2 where r is the radius of the Earth and d is the distance in a straight line from ground level extending tangentially to the surface of the earth. h is the height above the ground that connects to the d line.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 01:10:05 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ] I_am_baal
[ - ] I_am_baal 0 points 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 01:19:29 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 19:07:36 ago (+2/-1)
Guess what faggot? This isn't remotely true. Military snipers take into account earth's curvature AND rotation when trying to place a .3" piece of lead in a 6" target at over a mile.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 20:02:21 ago (+2/-2)
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[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 22:03:24 ago (+2/-2)*
https://youtu.be/hiRaP8qxqa4?si=tcEJ66N3BOn8utCx
Artillery doesn't try to put a .3" piece of lead into a 6" target.
Honor thieving douche. BTW. A .50 cal isn't a sniper rifle. Betting you're too fuckin' stupid to understand why that matters.
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 00:36:43 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 06:43:36 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 18:28:19 ago (+3/-3)
Feelings of motion are a product of acceleration, not velocity.
Ballons filled with a substance that is lighter than air floats of the buoyancy overcomes the weight of the balloon material. A Ballon filled with air, falls at the exact same rate of gravity that holds you to the earth. A birds wings are shaped like an airfoil that creates a pressure differential, just like airplanes. Two more proofs that you're either a fucking idiot or a disingenuous fucking nigger.
You're proving that you don't know what the fuck a vacuum is or the difference between "a vacuum" and a relative vacuum caused by a difference in pressure.
You cannot see the ground in Chicago from Michigan. On some days you can see things that you can't see on other days because of the changing atmospheric conditions and refraction through the liquid of the atmosphere.
Level is defined as an equal distance from the center of the earth. Yes water find a Level around the point that is the center of gravity.
Pilots and military personnel only "assume" a flat earth when they are dealing with small distances relative to the size of the earth and do so to eliminate the insignificant variations caused by the round earth. Holy fuck are you stupid. The things that you are referring to here use that assumption to simplify experiments or design considerations.
Radios do not only use live of sight. Radios waves can and do bounce off the atmosphere, which is why simple ham Radios can talk to people over great distances. At extremely high frequencies, the signal does not bounce off the atmosphere, so you're limited to line of sight. Like cell phones in the gigahertz ranges.
Oh look, the holohoax reference. More fucking proof that you're a disingenuous fucking nigger tryna to play out the 4 Chan joke here. That shit is a decade old and is as dumb as fuck today as it was then. But does tend to show that you're likely either a filthy fucking jew or a filthy fucking jew dick sucker. The holohoax is fake and ghey.
Why the fuck are you quoting Einstein out of context?
I gave you a simple experiment that will absolutely prove you wrong. But you're too lazy as fuck to bother, which tends to prove that you're a disingenuous fucking nigger because if you actually did the experiment and showed the earth wasn't round, you'd be world renowned instead of a total fucking jaggoff on voat, acting like a disingenuous fucking nigger.
Then, you try and shift the goalposts. You said prove the earth is round, not prove the earth is in motion, which is simply a derivative. Once you agree the earth is round, other explained phenomenon can then be used to prove that we are moving.
And the last paragraph suggests that you simply cut and pasted this fucking drivel because I gave you a way to prove the earth is round using equipment you can buy for under $100 and if the world was flat, you'd make yourself millions with the fame. But, you don't. Why? Cause you're a filthy fucking disingenuous nigger.
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[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 19:49:55 ago (+2/-2)
Because I'm supposedly standing on a ball that's spinning a thousand miles per hour. Just like a rubber ball on a lazy susan, that motion is transferred to the ball. Every observable thing in reality dictates that I would notice yet I can calmly stack stones by a lake with level waters that creates a perfect mirror. Something that's impossible if the water was curved in the slightest.
Sure, but NASA even claims that the earth is constantly changing it's speed. But let's say that it's so slow we wouldn't notice. We would surely notice the increase in acceleration starting at dusk. You would not only be rotating on the Earth, but your position relative to the sun is changing. The fact that the sun and earth are both moving and both affect gravity, gravity would fluctuates so much I would certainly notice it.
That means there is constantly variation in acceleration. I've never once felt it.
I can fill a balloon up with helium and hold it on the floor. This is because I am applying a force to it. How much force does gravity apply to the Earth? Remember, this is a force that can prevent gas from leaving atmosphere. How much force is it?
This is because of the way refraction works in reality. Just like a pencil in a glass, the pencil will appear to be magnified. If you put the eraser of the pencil on the bottom of the glass, you will not see that eraser anymore. That does not mean that the glass is curved on the bottom. It means that the medium of water is bending light and creating a lens affect and making the object appear larger than it is. Since the size of your field view did not change, yet the image appears larger, you will not see the edges. What do we have in our atmos that very stay today? Water. This is a testable repeatable phenomenon. Where's yours?
Lol. Definition of vacuum - a space entirely devoid of matter. Or you know, outer space.
This is just retarded. The word relative means - considered in relation or in proportion to something else.
So what the fuck are you using the word relative for? The only way matter and a vacuum can be relative to each other is if the matter is in a container. Otherwise, the second law of thermodynamic dictates that that matter will fill up the vacuum without a barrier.
Prove it faggot. Every declassified document pertaining to military equipment says otherwise. I can find a link if you want to pretend like flat earthers haven't been posting the shit out of that for the last 10 years.
No. He's the definition.
Level - having a flat and even surface without slopes or bumps.
If you can find me one prominent physicist that tells me the world is a ball and the Holocaust is fake and gay, maybe I'll listen. Until then, you'll be glowing like the kike faggot you are.
You're too much of a kike to be on voat. Are you honestly defending Einstein? Lol. I think I called this yesterday.
Go turn it into Dave Weiss. He's offering 4 bitcoin for anybody that can prove the Earth is a ball. You seem to have a one up on everybody. You must be a smart guy.
This is coming from the faggots that completely rely on untestable, unrepeatable unobservable, phenomenon to explain why everything we see is an illusion.
It's all part of the same thing you fuckin retard. I just want proof of one aspect of heliocentrism. You haven't provided anything but a map with lines drawn on it. A map is flat you retard. And the globe is inaccurate. It even says so on the bottom of the globes. "Not to be used for educational purposes."
I missed this part. Is the piece of paper with the picture on it $100 or the pencil? What kind of disingenuous nigger faggot spends an hour defending kikes then calles me a disingenuous nigger. Lol.
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[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 21:55:08 ago (+1/-1)
There is an equation used to determine exactly the amount of force the earth's gravity put on matter at a distance. It's calculatable and varies with the height above sea level.
What do you care about what NASA says? I thought you think they lie.
Would you feel an aircraft change speed from 450 mph to 449.9995 mph?
The vacuum of space is the slave without matter, or very limited molecules of matter. Matter that simply hasn't been captured by a bodily gravity, yet. It most certainly can exist without physical barriers.
I did prove it. Military snipers that fire ultra long range (>1000 yards) are taught that at great distances there are accounts for curvature of the earth and earth's rotation, especially when planning shots over a mile.
Lol. No.
That given point is the center of gravity. And we see this exact thing happen with liquids in our higher atmosphere and in inner space.
Fuckin' dumbass.
An appeal to authority? I need to find one person with a science degree that says 2+2=4 AND denies the holocaust? Then, you'll listen. You're a fucking idiot.
Me asking why you're quoting Einstein is not me "defending Einstein" ya dick suckin' retard faggot.
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[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 8 monthsSep 7, 2023 23:49:24 ago (+2/-2)
Again, If you are spinning on a ball, and that ball is spinning around a sun, at some point in a day you will be on the ball and your relative position on the ball will be spinning with the direction the earth is moving relative to the sun, adding acceleration. There will also be a time in a day your relative position on the ball is moving against the Earth's relative movement around the Sun, thus decelerating your position. So once a day, we should fill both an acceleration and deceleration of movement. That's not even including all the other directions. Like the sun revolving around our galaxy. Our Galaxy revolving around whatever the fuck they tell you is out there. My point is, I don't know why you keep insisting I don't understand acceleration and velocity. Obviously you don't understand it.
So. All they did was measure how fast an object drops. Not everything drops at the same speed. So they have an average. They call that average "little g." With all that math that you claim proves gravity, you could easily replace the "little g" with " agreed upon average of downward acceleration," or we can call it "little a." You don't understand that it can't be "little g" because it is over 95% wrong in the cosmos. You literally have to have faith that dark matter exists to invoke gravity. You're pretty stupid person. If you believe something exists simply because if it doesn't, it would mean that a jew lied about physics then you are either a jew yourself, or a really dumb faggot.
Is this your first day talking about Flat Earth? It's called a hostile witness you dumb fagg. You used Eratosthenes as a proof. His assumptions contradict NASA's explanation for the moon's shadow. So who was wrong?
You just ignore it though. I don't get it. You gotta be a jew. They're the only ones that argue like that.
Show me how that's relevant? You're making assumptions just like Eratosthenes. As if traveling millions of miles per hour on multiple different orbits would be comparable to .0005 miles per hour in a plane. Lol. Boy you are dumb.
No. This is absolutely impossible. You cannot reproduce this phenomenon anywhere. It's just dumb that I'm even talking to you at this point. I think I already asked you for an example but you ignored it. You know, kikery as usual.
No you dumb faggot. All you did was ignore my rebuttal. It's thoroughly been debunked. Plus you would have to invoke coriola with airplanes, hot air balloons, and drones, you still didn't tell me where my Coriolis is with my drone. Lol. Just ignore it like a kike.
Lol. Let's see what the word plane means.
Plane - a flat surface on which a straight line joining any two points on it would wholly lie.
Damn. It's right there in the definition you provided. FLAT SURFACE and STRAIGHT LINE. Who'd of thought? Lol.
No. I specifically said that they have to promote heliocentrism and deny the Holocaust. I don't have a problem with math. Math is an expression. You can express both truth and lies with it. Just like your words can express truth and lies. If you don't agree with this then I would say that you have sucked too many dicks. You sucked 7 dicks yesterday, 6 today, and tomorrow you plan on sucking 10 dick. You're an ambitious faggot. But the math says you've already sucked 13 dicks so by the end of tomorrow it will be 23 dicks.
You have to admit that by the end of tomorrow you will have sucked 23 dicks because 7+6+10=23. And you know how to do basic math right? You wouldn't disagree with it.
Me asking why you're quoting Einstein
Because I'm claiming heliocentrism is a lie. You're defending heliocentrism. Einstein is a rabbi of the cult. He's a hostile witness. You are defending him whether you like it or not by defending relativity. Unless you're suggesting that there's an entirely different model that you personally thought of that can explain how balls of rocks float the way they do in the vacuum of space. If not I'm going to assume you are of your father the devil and simply regurgitate babylonian propaganda.
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[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 06:47:51 ago (+1/-1)
The distance between 2 lines of longitude at 60° N and 60°S are about the same and both are less distance than the distance between the same two lines of longitude at the equator.
That proves round earth.
You not understanding physics, aerodynamics, buoyancy, gravity, refraction, etc. are just you being a fucking idiot or a disingenuous fucking nigger. Simple as.
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[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 8 monthsSep 8, 2023 12:55:51 ago (+2/-1)
Dave Weiss is offering 4 Bitcoin for that proof. Go collect you dumb faggot. His YouTube channel is DIRTH. Go let him know.
Cool story. If only globes were accurate. Lol. So stupid that you don't even realize globes have a disclaimer on them. Flat maps do not.
You mean the theory of relativity? It's over 95% incorrect. You have to invoke faith in a substance called dark matter. You can't see it or detect it. The only reason you know it's there is because If it's not, it would mean a jew lied about physics. Are you defending Einstein's work?
Gravity is described as the bending of space time. There's no official explanation as to what causes the actual force. Your own rabbis admit this. So don't pretend like you understand what gravity is because it's a bunch of kike nonsense that they openly admit they can't explain.
You are simply begging the question as proof for your claim. What causes things to fall downward? Gravity. How do we know it's gravity? Because things fall downward.
This this is how kikes argu.
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