My processed food intake is probably at 5% and that 5% is some canned beans, bread I didn’t bake and maybe some tortilla chips once in awhile. And, I read labels on everything. No conditioners, no soy bean oil, no modified food starch or cellulose fiber, no maltodextrin dextrin.
I tried the Keto diet for almost a year, it works but Paleo works just as well if not better. Your brain needs a few carbs. Maybe you know this but if you don't eat carbs your body will turn fat and protein into glucose anyway, and carbs are usually less expensive.
Keto is great for initial weight loss if that’s what you’re seeking from certain indulgences (too much beer, snacking, etc.) to diminish. Long term isn’t viable. Intermittent fasting is more my style now.
Intermittent fasting FTW. I've been sick and it's the only thing that makes be feel better. It's really hard to do at first but I have gone as long as six and a half days. That's probably too long, 40 to 48 hours seems about right.
Thanks, I take vitamins so that's probably cheating, but regular fasting makes it easier just like any other exercise. Avoiding sugar and artificial sweeteners in the interim makes it easier too.
That is very anabolic. It is a diet that will give you very good short term health and vigor but is not for longevity.
There is a basic trade off in diet between short term vigor and strength and long term health. As you age you want to cut back on protein, especially sulfur based aminos, which damage DNA. Eating fruits and veggies with high anti-oxidant compounds is important. This protects the DNA. You could take supplements with anti-oxidants if you don’t want to eat all the plants.
I must be reading the second chart wrong or the chart is wrong. There is zero chance the average person is consuming 21% of their diet in sugar. I understand all the lard-asses that exist, but I cannot accept 21%.
I'm actually surprised the percentage is as low as 21%. Considering that most meals I see people eating are over half carbs I'd expect the percentage of sugar/carbs to be over 50%.
When I'm good about my diet, I only pig out on carbs the same day I wake up and run 5 miles. This means my body is in a glucose starved state and when I eat said carbs my body immediately burns them and they don't spike my insulin levels like the literal poison they otherwise are.
Beer has a trick. It makes you think it’s life, but that is an illusion. Quit beer, break the addiction, never miss it again. It depresses the ability to feel enjoyment in your sober periods, like when you fuck prostitutes for instance.
Calories in, calories out is undisputable thermodynamics. However, if you can't metabolize the calories you take in then you will feel miserable and not move much and hungry and eat more.
Easy fix is regularly eating hot food. Like actually hot. If you're not sweating it's not hot. The capsaicin helps with your metabolism. Also, you won't feel hungry.
I havent verified the claim bu if its in a thread that's memory holed on the internal 4ch archives and it ain't chilporn, you can bet your bottom dollar its true. & the thred I fount it on was memory holed by the fkn bolshevik likes
If the blue stuff is the main problem then it looks like coconut oil, butter, palm oil, lard, and olive oil are the best oils to use. I generally use butter and olive oil so I guess I'm doing alright.
Olive oil is ok if its cold pressed extra virgin and dont cook with it. Balance it with enough fresh omega 3 sources like walnuts, chia, flaxseed in the form of ALA or get some DHA/EPA from fish or an algae oil supplement. Palm oil is a question mark for me because I think it depends on how it is processed.
For conventional commercial butter, yes. Better butters range up to over a dollar per ounce. The Avocado oil I currently use is 49 cents per ounce, but again, 'fancy' Avo oil can be pricey too.
Guess it depends on whether omega 9 is as bad as omega 6. If it's significantly less bad, then olive oil is better than soybean, cottonseed, and peanut oils.
Omega 3 is good. Omega 6 is bad. Rapeseed oil, aka canola oil, is the least bad seed oil because it has the most omega 3 and canola is the trade name of a low linoleic acid cultivar of rapeseed.
Sorry to have to correct you. I used to think this. Alot of experts once advised this.
Omega 6 seems to be associated with increased inflamatory cytokines whereas omega 3 seems to supress inflamation. They are both fine in the right ratio although modern diets tend to have too much omega 6 and not enough omega 3, but....
Both omega 6 and 3 become oxydized and toxic when heated and create damage to your cells. To produce canola they heat the rapeseed at really high temps and add a bunch of chemicals to it as BoozyB says, which makes the omega 3 in canola (good for you in natural form) very bad to consume habitually. Canola is now believed to be one of the worst.
Omega 3 fats must be fresh and unheated because the molecule is not stable. Walnuts, chia seeds, flaxseed eaten whole or fresh cold pressed are good. I eat walnuts every day. Olive oil and avocado have alot of omega 6 but are still ok if you are getting enough omega 3 and the source is fresh or cold pressed.
Butter, coconut oil, lard are all saturated fats that are solid at room temp and dont become toxic when heated, because the molecule is very stable.
Actually you are still half wrong. Omegas even if unheated and cold pressed, will oxidise inside the body. We are hot blooded mammalians not cold water fish.
even if unheated and cold pressed, will oxidise inside the body.
Given that your body is full of the stuff, can you tell me the rate at which omega 3s break down at 37C?
We need omega 3. Being a fish is irrelavant. Omega 3 is required for brain function and both are needed to produce protaglandins and leukotrienes which function as immune signalling pathways. The level of oxidation is low and its an ESSENTIAL nutrient. Even the lipids in butter can oxidize somewhat. The point is to minimize it by not heating to 100C.
You’re going to fucking die if you dont take it. Its in your meat—youre going to quit eating beef because it has DHA in it? Be my guest genius. Eliminate all omega 3 and 6 from your diet because “we’re not fish”. This is dumb. Go look it up.
Nah cunt, learn to read! You don’t need extra omega 3. You get the small amount you need in normal food. No need to douse your food with extra pufa or supplement with fish oil. We are hot blooded and thrive on saturated fat our bodies are tropical within. Cold water fish need a lot of pufa or they can’t move.
Nah cunt, learn to read! You don’t need extra omega 3. You get the small amount you need in normal food. No need to douse your food with extra pufa or supplement with fish oil. We are hot blooded and thrive on saturated fat our bodies are tropical within. Cold water fish need a lot of pufa or they can’t move.
Nah cunt, learn to read! You don’t need extra omega 3. You get the small amount you need in normal food. No need to douse your food with extra pufa or supplement with fish oil. We are hot blooded and thrive on saturated fat our bodies are tropical within. Cold water fish need a lot of pufa or they can’t move.
I disagree with your statement about canola. Almost all food grade canola oil is extensively processed. Canola seeds are harvested and processed to extract the edible oil. There are two main methods for extracting canola oil: mechanical press and solvent extraction. In mechanical press, canola oilseeds are pressed in a series of screw presses/extractors, leaving about 5-7% oil in the residual cake/meal. This pressed cake can be subjected to solvent extraction for further oil extraction. Almost all commercial canola oil is extracted using hexane, which is recovered at the end of processing. The canola oil is then refined using water precipitation and organic acid to remove gums and free fatty acids, filtering to remove color, and deodorizing using steam distillation. Cold-pressed and expeller-pressed canola oil are also produced on a more limited basis.1 Expeller pressing uses a press to physically squeeze the oil out of the seed, rather than using chemicals, with no solvents used in the process.
Cold extracted? I use Botticelli cold extrated extra virgin. Some of the boticelli varieties may not be cold extracted. I think alot of the “light” olive oils (non-virgin) are not and have been subjected to heat and solvents. I stay away from those.
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Yep. If it's squeezed out it's obviously better for you than if it's squeezed and then the last bits of oil are diluted with a petrochemical (hexane) to extract every last drop of oil, then mixed in with the 'pure' stuff.
No, it’s still harmful. However, you can have some olive oil raw occasionally. Look for cold and mechanical pressed, extra virgin, mono crop and early harvest.
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That is awesome. Supposedly there are additional benefits by going 3 to 5 days but I can’t last that long!
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There is a basic trade off in diet between short term vigor and strength and long term health. As you age you want to cut back on protein, especially sulfur based aminos, which damage DNA. Eating fruits and veggies with high anti-oxidant compounds is important. This protects the DNA. You could take supplements with anti-oxidants if you don’t want to eat all the plants.
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I'm actually surprised the percentage is as low as 21%. Considering that most meals I see people eating are over half carbs I'd expect the percentage of sugar/carbs to be over 50%.
When I'm good about my diet, I only pig out on carbs the same day I wake up and run 5 miles. This means my body is in a glucose starved state and when I eat said carbs my body immediately burns them and they don't spike my insulin levels like the literal poison they otherwise are.
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Drink beer, live
Likely won’t live longer but your quality of life will be ……., fuck I can’t remember…., it’s starts with a p…oh ya prostitute..that’s it
Drink beer, hire a prostitute you cheap kike faggot….,
Amen
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And replace olive oil in the skillet with butter or avocado oil?
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Found some beef tallow for $.96 per ounce, arriving tomorrow.
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Kevala Avocado Oil, 128 Fluid Ounce $45.40 ($0.35/Fl Oz)
Haven't used this one, but Kevala's toasted sesame oil is excellent.
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Omega 6 seems to be associated with increased inflamatory cytokines whereas omega 3 seems to supress inflamation. They are both fine in the right ratio although modern diets tend to have too much omega 6 and not enough omega 3, but....
Both omega 6 and 3 become oxydized and toxic when heated and create damage to your cells. To produce canola they heat the rapeseed at really high temps and add a bunch of chemicals to it as BoozyB says, which makes the omega 3 in canola (good for you in natural form) very bad to consume habitually. Canola is now believed to be one of the worst.
Omega 3 fats must be fresh and unheated because the molecule is not stable. Walnuts, chia seeds, flaxseed eaten whole or fresh cold pressed are good. I eat walnuts every day. Olive oil and avocado have alot of omega 6 but are still ok if you are getting enough omega 3 and the source is fresh or cold pressed.
Butter, coconut oil, lard are all saturated fats that are solid at room temp and dont become toxic when heated, because the molecule is very stable.
@Observation1
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Actually you are still half wrong. Omegas even if unheated and cold pressed, will oxidise inside the body. We are hot blooded mammalians not cold water fish.
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Given that your body is full of the stuff, can you tell me the rate at which omega 3s break down at 37C?
We need omega 3. Being a fish is irrelavant. Omega 3 is required for brain function and both are needed to produce protaglandins and leukotrienes which function as immune signalling pathways. The level of oxidation is low and its an ESSENTIAL nutrient. Even the lipids in butter can oxidize somewhat. The point is to minimize it by not heating to 100C.
You’re going to fucking die if you dont take it. Its in your meat—youre going to quit eating beef because it has DHA in it? Be my guest genius. Eliminate all omega 3 and 6 from your diet because “we’re not fish”. This is dumb. Go look it up.
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We are hot blooded and thrive on saturated fat our bodies are tropical within. Cold water fish need a lot of pufa or they can’t move.
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We are hot blooded and thrive on saturated fat our bodies are tropical within. Cold water fish need a lot of pufa or they can’t move.
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We are hot blooded and thrive on saturated fat our bodies are tropical within. Cold water fish need a lot of pufa or they can’t move.
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Canola seeds are harvested and processed to extract the edible oil. There are two main methods for extracting canola oil: mechanical press and solvent extraction. In mechanical press, canola oilseeds are pressed in a series of screw presses/extractors, leaving about 5-7% oil in the residual cake/meal. This pressed cake can be subjected to solvent extraction for further oil extraction. Almost all commercial canola oil is extracted using hexane, which is recovered at the end of processing. The canola oil is then refined using water precipitation and organic acid to remove gums and free fatty acids, filtering to remove color, and deodorizing using steam distillation. Cold-pressed and expeller-pressed canola oil are also produced on a more limited basis.1 Expeller pressing uses a press to physically squeeze the oil out of the seed, rather than using chemicals, with no solvents used in the process.
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