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The argumentation against Christianity simplified.

submitted by Ifuckdolphinseverday to Christcucks 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:13:17 ago (+8/-6)     (Christcucks)

1.) The White Race existed for an unknown time prior to Christianity and it's root traditions are far more ancient.

2.) Christianity removes Man from his Natural State as a being who acts.

3.) Christianity enables Civic-Spiritualism and Civic-Nationalism

Note: christianity was a traditional jewish pascificm cult adapted to roman (pagan) palate.



wE wUz THe rEaL jEwS

Lets just go ahead and say you're right and that isrealites were White as Fuck or whatever the hell your point is. Lets just concede that you are correct, fair enough? The isrealites are pervy sadistic fucks whos schizophrenic desires are encompassed within Christianity and which manifests itself to the direct declination of our Race. You say im exaggerating? Does the story of Job sound like a decent worth while deity to worship to you? Kill your kid goy? Give me the flesh of their genitalia? Does any of this sound WHITE to you? If so, neck yourself you pedo. Its as simple as that. Do you relate with the desert tribe story of the sadist jehova or is there a deeper longing for a restoration of your soul. How do you defend jewish institutions and policy while simultaneously hating them for your losses? Do you deny Christianity's connection to the false state of isreal?

Hadrian

Titus

Nebuchadnezzar

Who killed more jews? Non christian Whites or christian Whites?
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bUt wE wErE sO MuCH bEtTer OfF than cHristIanitY

The thing is every Aryan ideal within the modified jewish cult would obviously be attractive to our Race. That how the game works. The traditions of Family and community, of higher thinking of spiritual awareness. The Desire to care for Nature and to hold accountability. The glorifying of our accomplishments, the promethium sprit enabling us to be limitless. From the holidays to the worthwhile root ideals that you profess to have led to our success are fare more ancient than christanity and wholly pagan.

Secondly, you're wrong. We have fallen far from our rightful place as the Gods of this realm. We have been removed from our Natural State existing now as beaten children grown into frightful men. Our spiritual connections to our roots and blood memory have been hijacked as this is their only viable option to destroy our People.


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What is Pagan?

It is not a liberal shitfest of imorality mixed with plural gods. You are genuinely retarded if you think this is paganism.

Esoteric Hitlerism is Paganism (Modern example of a restoration)

* Pantheonic Traditionalism is Paganism (Greek, Roman, Germanic, Nordic etc.)


The point of Pagnism is that it is EthnoSpritiualism at its core. That it brings our People to the status of God over this realm. Instilling a desire for glory for oneself to add to the testament of the power of our Soul. To bring oneself accountable for the Life before us, remembering the past while preparing for the future. An understanding of continuity in the soul stream, that we are Eternal beings in an endless realm of struggle.

The Pagan God is of the White Race.
It is Yourself present, future and past.


To the atheist and abraham, If you were to worship a God why would your worship anything else other than your own people? Spiritual treason to our people is the cause of the rot, the longer you hold onto foreign toxins the further we fall into domestication.

Adolf Hitler, The Ultimate Avatar (Miguel Serrano).pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/s615qs.pdf

mightisrightragnarredbeard.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/gwl4rx.pdf

OnBeingAPagan_alainbenoist.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/8gbszk.pdf

The Golden Thread - Esoteric Hitlerism (Miguel Serrano).pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/ig5bdd.pdf

The Lightning and the Sun (Savitri Devi).pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/lpule4.pdf


We Will Not Celebrate The Death Of The White Gods (Miguel Serrrano).pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/9cmdmh.pdf

The Elder or Poetic Edda.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/09tkd0.pdf

arealcaseagainstthejews.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/yy7eet.pdf






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[ - ] FacelessOne -1 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 02:07:07 ago (+0/-1)

Larpers are cringe

[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:30:11 ago (+3/-2)

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[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:32:22 ago (+2/-0)

I'm already well familiar with the subject

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:34:15 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] HeyJames 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:33:40 ago (+3/-2)

Interesting. I could have sworn many years ago on old voat you were a mormon. I don't really care much for religion either way, except to know that it is important to believe the exact opposite of @love240

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:49:13 ago (+2/-1)

You are correct I was/ am by heritage. I have since come to a higher spiritual understanding.

OnBeingAPagan_alainbenoist.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/8gbszk.pdf

The Mormon Dogma of Godhood is inherently Pagan, its founders firm believers in ethno-spiritualism and White Supremacy. It is my belief that christainity was the vehicle for a restoration of these concepts in a similar fashion to Adolf's occultism for the SS and initiated. There was a time I was a true believer of the modern story of Joseph Smith, having now spiritually matured there are greater lessons to be found in the early days of the Church.

The LDS branch of Mormonism has fallen far from the intention of the Smith family and Young. Yet other sects retain a sense of racial etho concepts. Despite the best ideals found in the foundations it is still a christain vehicle to which I am remise.

I used to think that the only way forward was to return to the practices of the past. Now I understand that Natural Law will necessitate the transformation of our People back to our Natural State or else we will perish. It serves a a catalyst for the inevitable end of the Kali Yuga and our return to the throne.

There are many ways to tell the story of our People, while I am not of any Abrahamic traditions I respect the founders of Mormonism and their passion to preserve the soul of our race. It pains me to see them so torn between jewish traditionalism and pantheonic traditionalism yet of all the christain faiths is is by far the most Pagan.



[ - ] HeyJames 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:54:38 ago (+1/-0)

Well it sounds like you've been on one hell of a journey. The one thing that always bothered me about the mormon beliefs was joseph smiths practice of freemasonry and incorporating a lot of that into his religion. Of course we're not here to argue any of that right now.

To be honest I avoid thinking about spirituality at all much these days. I have never been a person particularly drawn to religion. Was raised strict Christian but never felt much attachment to it. I have gone to a few Christian mega churches as an adult and while they are entertaining, I have gained nothing from it.

Guess I'm not really agnostic but more "nothing has inspired me to give a shit yet"

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 00:26:53 ago (+2/-0)

Thank you for not worshiping jews. I would recommend that you find something non-jewy to worship, but the first thing I'd recommend is developing the spiritual parts of your brain, rather than worrying about whose Gods or jew-god or whatever are correct. Practice some form of meditation and see what it does for you. De-fluoridate your water and take vitamin K to help decalcify your pineal gland. When your pineal and pituitary glands heal and get some exercise from meditation, they'll take care of the rest.

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 01:48:47 ago (+0/-0)

solid advice

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 23:19:13 ago (+1/-0)

Yes the endowment ceremony is 100% copy pasta Free Masonry. However my view is that it served as a vehicle that was readily available much like its adoption of Christianity. By the whole, it restored Man to a Status of God. Which is more than can be said for any other christain faith. It has preserved a great number of pure Ayran stock in the Rockie mountains who will serve to one day glorify our Race. For a time was purely Ethno-spiritualist and Ethno-Nationalist. We forged our own Nation here prior to the United States threatening us with eradication if we did not adopt into their Nation and Banking system.



I've been thinking about spiritually a lot these days. In asking myself what attributes a God would have to possess in order to receive devotion I have found great truths regarding our Eternal Nature on this realm. We truly are Gods ourselves. I have gained great respect to my blood line and found true purpose on this Earth.

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children.

Our Natural State beckons from something greater, a hidden yearning that only the memory of soil abides. It speaks to our soul from a primeval sense of familiar fate that we can not fully elucidate, yet still the call remains. Reclaim the Throne.

[ - ] PhantomXLII -1 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:53:50 ago (+0/-1)

I don't really care much for religion

That's enough.

You'll die for your sins.

[ - ] HeyJames 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:55:39 ago (+2/-0)

What is your religion doing for you?

You're a depressed virgin who seems to not enjoy being alive

[ - ] PhantomXLII -2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 23:17:43 ago (+0/-2)

What is your religion doing for you?

😂 That's not how it works.

There is what is right, and that is all that matters. If I have to claw myself over hot coals to do it, then it must be done.

You're a depressed

Nononono, I'm not depressed at all. Teenage girls with first world problems like losing their phone or cheating on their boyfriend get "depressed", and I'm not being lumped in with those types.

No, what I have is beyond my ability to describe. I can't think of how to word it. Oh well.

virgin

Yes, and I'll die that way. That's just the way it goes. Part of it is because I am who I am, and I'm no catch. I don't think so, at least. I really have nothing but my own opinion to go off here. Anyhow... Part of it is also because people are who people are, and they are degenerates who elected to disobey the Lord in such a variety of egregious manners it would be wrong of me to even consider them as equals, let alone "romantic" partners, provided it is a woman in question of course. Faggots get the fist, boot, and bullet lol.

No, I'll die alone. I imagine it won't be as quick as I'd like either. It will probably be a terrible thing, and arguably a humiliating way to go, something that could've been prevented had someone, anyone, been around. Oh well. I'm no better than the millions who were ripped apart in the trenches or the blackened fields between. Really I'm much, much less than them. All the more reason to avoid others, and not become attached. If I can't hold a candle to some poor teenage conscript, then I really don't have any business getting involved with others. I'll do my bit and encourage, demand, and always seek what is right, but in the end I'm another number. One of a million, not in a million.

who seems to not enjoy being alive

I can't tell anymore. I find satisfaction in little things lately. A plane going by, a cool breeze, a freshly mowed lawn, bubbles underwater... Little things. I wonder sometimes if I'm losing it, and maybe it's just my head holding on to more simple things. I don't know. Maybe I'm just getting old.

Don't get me wrong though, I still enjoy a good movie, game, or whatever else that's more exciting. Hell, with what free time I have I'll often stick my head in some interesting read or fucking around in Battlefield, Arma, Hoi4, or some other game I've got. Keeps me from thinking too much.

But then there's other times, like right now, where that feeling I can't describe is all that's there. It's a clear feeling, but it's very empty at the same time. I guess a visual of it would be like looking into space, but without so many stars. Or, what I imagine to be, an ocean at night. I've never seen an ocean so I can only go off of what I imagine it to be.

I don't know. I don't think it really matters if I do know. All that matters is what's right, in the end.

[ - ] chrimony 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 01:21:19 ago (+3/-1)

There is what is right, and that is all that matters. If I have to claw myself over hot coals to do it, then it must be done.

Your devotion to doing what is right is commendable -- but too bad it's directed at worshiping Yahweh/Rabbi Jebus, and following the teachings of Saul the Pharisee.

[ - ] SumerBreeze 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:50:34 ago (+2/-1)

Jesus was right about the jews.

Those other guys you listed, too, were right about the jews.

But Jesus really laid it out. You can go ahead and accept the “kill them with fire because they are different,” but the reasoning behind WHY the jews are the synagogue of Satan is more useful and more powerful.

You do you, bud.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 00:23:07 ago (+2/-0)

"Salvation is of the jews" - rabbi Jesus

Really laid it out there, yeah. But hey, maybe you've come up with some weird twist of christianity where you can throw out the entire old testament and Saul the shapeshifter and believe that Jesus was a non-jewish rebel fighting against the Jews, like Hitler did. At least then you'd be trying not to worship jews, even if your version of Jesus and christianity would be completely different from what the bible says and what 99.9% of christians believe. So different you might wanna come up with a different name for it, just so people don't mistake you for a jew worshiper.

[ - ] PhantomXLII 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 22:54:40 ago (+1/-1)

No, it's not "you do you", it's "do as commanded by the Lord".

[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 18:18:33 ago (+0/-0)

You cannot command, but only warn and walk away; this is the way Jesus taught us through His “pearls before swine” metaphor.

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] -2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2023 23:02:32 ago (+1/-3)

You missed the entire point.

Lets say jesus really laid it out. If you would bother to use your ability to think and actually read what was written i gave you this concession already. Jesus was White, Super based, hated jews. etc. etc. etc.

Is jesus not Jehova?

Did he not fuck up job like a sadist?

Did he not demand the sacrifice of children?

Does he not demand the flesh of your childrens genitals?


It doesn't matter if jesus or the isrealites are the real jews and the false jews are of satan or whatever you entire premise is. You have missed the entire point. Fuck you and your desert fetish. The Based White isrealtes of your jesus fantasy are schizophrenic narcists who are far removed from the Aryan Soul.

You can be the real isrealites it means nothing. Jesus could have super hated on jews it means nothing. Christianity is inherently the antithesis to the far more Ancient Soul of our Race. It is paganism lite. Diet White Etho-Spiritualism. It is the inferior status as proven by the downfall and cuckholdry of the White race to isralite/ jewish in fighting.

Do you get it now? That there are other White peoples who want nothing to do with your "super white deseret fighting the jew" story? That our blood is more ancient, our traditions deeper that our Soul belongs to a story unbeholden to your dogma?

We don't live in your story, regardless if your story is isrealite white or jews or whatever the fuck you want. We have our Own story. One that is superior to yours in every regard.

[ - ] SumerBreeze -1 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 18:15:59 ago (+0/-1)

The story has opened to the universe - not restricted to the desert. Don’t you understand that the things we have are constantly expanding? You want to go back to eating psychedelic mushrooms and hugging trees and drinking the blood of the rabbit you tortured for several hours. That to me is even more against what white peoples are about.

We created airplanes and lasers that shoot through the atmosphere that people mistake for UFOs zipping across the sky. What Jesus said is more in tune with what we need to stay clear of and destroy the reoccurring disease that is the jewish mind. Unfortunately, the major denominations of Christianity are antiJesus and refuse to accept what Jesus said.

[ - ] Name 0 points 1.4 yearsDec 12, 2023 06:58:39 ago (+0/-0)

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I was reading through this and two or three comments earlier in this thread you said “ the reasoning behind WHY the jews are the synagogue of Satan is more useful and more powerful.”

I’m really curious here. I’ve never heard an explanation as to WHY exactly they are the synagogue of Satan. Please elaborate.

[ - ] SumerBreeze 1 point 1.4 yearsDec 12, 2023 11:03:34 ago (+1/-0)*

The people who have become known as the jews have been warned by many prophets to stop sacrificing and drinking the blood of children, to give up their usurious and deceitful ways, to respect God and His image found in people that the jews hate so much (the jews are not of the Israelites) only for the jews to revert to their illogically retarded ways, time and time again. When Jesus called them the Synagogue of Satan, the context was Jesus’ understanding of the Pharisees’/Sadducees’ checkered past, and that their ancestors (the Phoenicians, not the Israelites) were in the beginning practicing child sacrifice, drinking adrenaline rich blood to get high, and prostituting their young daughters to old foreign men in order for them to reach godhood/adulthood. Sodom and Gomorrah were wiped out because the inhabitants were also involved in child prostitution and Weimar levels of homosexuality and other deviant behavior.

Jesus was an expert in many religious teachings, but was especially fearful of the Talmud taking over the Israelites’ way of life devoted to God - not the worldly money worship and human trafficking that the Talmud upholds as the highest goals in life. The Talmud was mostly an oral tradition at that time (albeit with some written parts in scrolls). It is true that many Israelites fell to the influence of these successful neighbors, and we know that Abraham ended this child sacrificing practice when he listened to an angel who commanded him to not sacrifice his son Isaac. But what of the others? Did they also stop sacrificing babies? History and the Talmud reveals that they indeed continued - and even decided that raping babies was totally fine!

These Satanic peoples have constantly tried to usurp and corrupt God’s laws and create institutions (priestly classes) that have perverted and distorted simplicity and basic connections with God. Their innate inbred inclinations cause them to flinch at anything that is pure, natural beauty, practical and common sense and sound logic. They were chosen by God as examples of dunces and rejects that were given many chances to straighten out, but their inclination to twisted realities and false gods and worshipping common sleight of hand seems to be hereditary.

Thus their father being the devil - a retarded trouble maker who fooled many into thinking that he was the bringer of light and some higher understanding of the world - which amusingly always was revealed to amount to inbred retard logic and self destruction.

Also OP is lying by saying that other traditions upheld by white peoples existed before “Christianity,” as Christianity is simply a modern word for Israelites who have finally had Christ revealed to them. Israelites inhabited all European lands even prior to the great flood of Doggerland - which is a modern word to describe all of Europe when France was still landlocked and connected to England; these white caucasoid peoples always believed in the Christ that would come to redeem them and redpill them about the nature of evil - and how evil would create a vindictive people hell bent on usurping not only their culture and religion, but total world enslavement.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 00:20:26 ago (+3/-0)

There is one legally recognized religion in the US that is exclusively for white people and does not allow people of less than majority European descent to participate, and which discourages race mixing. That religion is Asatru Paganism.

Meanwhile people who think the jews lied to us about everything from covid, 9/11, the holohoax, and slavery (which they did lie about) to the shape of the earth (which they didn't but who cares) and who believe jews are waging a spiritual war against us don't think the jews would lie to them about religion. Like, if you were a jew, and you were waging a spiritual war against our people and lying to us about basically everything, wouldn't religion be the very first thing you'd lie about? Why wouldn't the jews trick us into worshiping their god?

So yeah, thanks for this post.

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 00:26:12 ago (+1/-0)

I've been looking into the Asatru Folk Assembly lately. Not familiar with its dogma just have done a courser glance to know its etho-spriritualism.

Its not relevant to the post however I strongly encourage you to at least read my Flat Earth post, regardless if you think im a loon or not its the most concise representation of the idea. Its the same thought processes you've just mentioned. A group of people who believe that the jew controls every aspect of their education and lives yet will vehemently defend jewish institutions and jewish scientists when it comes to heliocentrism and space.

v/fakeandgay

https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=61319c47a1d2f

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 00:40:20 ago (+3/-0)

I'm pretty open minded about NASA having lied - the moon landing being fake is a much more reasonable conspiracy theory than the earth being flat. However, I've also seen plenty of evidence that corroborates round earth with my own eyes, such as the moon's phases following the exact patterns they would follow if the moon was orbiting the earth while orbiting the sun. There's no good explanation for why the moon would follow that exact pattern of behavior on a flat earth. I've also seen tons of shit arguments for flat earth like "water always finds its level" which is just a folksy saying and not a law of science - water DOESN'T always find its level, from water droplets curving and clinging to the sides of objects to the tides causing curvature in the surface of large bodies of water (which follow the moon as you'd expect if gravity is real, which most flat earthers deny). So I'm kinda burned out on the whole flat earth thing, and in order for it to be true, the jews would have to be able to fake the moon and tides and a whole bunch of other shit to make the earth appear to be round - if they're capable of that, then what's going on is a whole other fucking level of weird from what I believe, and what I believe is already pretty fucking weird.

But I will say that they do a lot of occult shit and flaunt their occult symbolism all over the place. They've put predictions of events they were orchestrating into the public eye decades in advance of doing them. So they are on a whole other level of weird, and that's one of the things that opened me up to re-exploring spirituality. The people who run our world clearly believe in astrology and numerology and a lot of other mystical shit, so perhaps they did create a bunch of social control schemes like christianity, islamofaggotry, and communocuckery to suppress real spirituality among the masses they want to keep under control.

I mainly joined the AFA to meet other based people who are exploring their spirituality, and so far I have not been disappointed with what I've found. The worst I can say about them is there have been a couple incidents of unnecessary drama but that happens in any group from time to time. When I meditated at one of their Hofs (their word for temple/church) I could feel my brain tingling and it seemed like I got quite a bit more out of meditating in their sacred space than I do just meditating at home. Plus, lots of white families with kids - very uplifting on its own. And doing Sumbol will remind you to honor your ancestors even if you sometimes struggle with immediate family who've been ruined by jews.

[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 01:17:20 ago (+1/-0)

A group of people who believe that the jew controls every aspect of their education and lives yet will vehemently defend jewish institutions and jewish scientists when it comes to heliocentrism and space.

Flattard Earth is most common among Christcucks that take the (((Bible))) literally. It was ancient Europeans that figured out the Earth was round and calculated its size. Eratosthenes, Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, and Newton were not jews.

The star trails that can be seen from Australia is trivial proof writ large in the night sky that we live on a spherical Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ZMZtq0qfY

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 01:31:19 ago (+0/-0)

Heliocentrism is derived from kabalah roots. When using either greek standard or english septenary cipher you can obtain the radius, distance, diameter of sun moon earth system.

some jews know the Earth is flat which is why you see it in christain books because christains are jews.

I propose that I can see further than what should be mathematically allotted. Please do explain how refraction could project images above their objective location.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 02:54:14 ago (+1/-1)

Heliocentrism is derived from kabalah roots.

That's all horseshit. It was derived using data, most importantly, Kepler's use of Tycho Brahe's astronomical data. Flattard Earth is a Heeb mythology.

I propose that I can see further than what should be mathematically allotted.

You live in 2023. You can verify every single object in the sky is where it's supposed to be for your time and place on Earth. All the data is public. All the formulas are public. And star trails can be seen from Australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ZMZtq0qfY. Two poles on a spherical Earth, one in Flattard Land.

What's your answer to all of this? Nothing. You just ignore it and handwave at jews.

Please do explain how refraction could project images above their objective location.

By bending light. That's what refraction is.

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] -1 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 03:09:35 ago (+0/-1)

Heliocentrism is for the Goy.

If the light is bending how do you get a straight line with a sextant?

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 03:19:14 ago (+1/-1)

Heliocentrism is for the Goy.

"What's your answer to all of this? Nothing. You just ignore it and handwave at jews."

If the light is bending how do you get a straight line with a sextant?

Light doesn't always bend, flattard.

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 16:00:23 ago (+0/-0)

"By bending light. That's what refraction is."

and then


"Light doesn't always bend, flattard."


You're a nigger. With a niggers IQ. Keep on nigging

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 16:17:49 ago (+0/-0)

You're a nigger. With a niggers IQ. Keep on nigging

You're a flattard that doesn't understand sometimes light bends, and sometimes it doesn't. It depends on the conditions. Meanwhile:

"You live in 2023. You can verify every single object in the sky is where it's supposed to be for your time and place on Earth. All the data is public. All the formulas are public. And star trails can be seen from Australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ZMZtq0qfY. Two poles on a spherical Earth, one in Flattard Land.

What's your answer to all of this? Nothing. You just ignore it and handwave at jews."

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2023 16:51:27 ago (+0/-0)

"sometimes light bends, and sometimes it doesn't. It depends on the conditions"

Hilarious.

Keep handwaving at light selectively bending.

@McNasty here is a good laugh for you.