The definition of "value" changes whether it is applied to men or women.
It's like the word "bitch." Calling a man a bitch is saying he is a weak baby or a chicken. Calling a woman a bitch means shes rude, irritatingly tough, cunty.
So this is not a woman card thing.
If men used the woman definition of value, which means to assert your power, then men can manifest that on the spot, too. That's not a quality women possess. Men do this too (and should.)
If women used men's definition of value, which means how high other's measure your worth, then it would be silly to self appraise.
So these 2 are having a language problem, both using the word differently in a sentence. There are obviously nuances between men and women but this is not one of them.
I agree that men and women do and should have different ideas about what value they bring to society's table, but I a disagree with you that she is correct. She is wrong. A woman's value is not some vague concept that she is allowed to define into existence out of thin air, a woman's value is determined by her ability to be a good wife and produce children, then be a good mother.
Yes, that is totally different than a man's value, but my point is, the entire problem with women today is thinking what this woman thinks, that they get to define their value, and not understanding/accepting that their actual, tangible value is what I described above.
she doesn't have a real answer because she doesn't know. she doesn't know homesteading or have skills, probably would make a terrible mother.
for the most part in our age women are holes and that's the only value they place on things. arm candy and holes. and they want to charge you a premium for it. just holes.
You're right, of course. Men are never going to talk women back into the right order of things. It doesn't work that way; mythology has had many symbols for it. Once certain cats are let out of the bag, the time for talking is past. Some high-value male, so to speak, will recast her illusion as soon as she steps out of that podcast studio. We live in the fantasy we're able to.
Female liberation has been like 'liberating' a hand grenade in Western culture. Its pure violent chaos. Their energy needs to be physically restrained, harnessed and channeled into productive avenues.
The only reason society even humors women having these conversations or having women in engineering careers, is because men have become so bad at it, a cargo culting impostor can fit in undetected
I was going to comment this but guy did it before I could.
Women lack empathy (that's why they are always crowing about it). If they had it they'd understand what men want in a woman. Instead, they only see the world through their eyes and believe everyone else in the world does the same. They can't possibly imagine what men want in a woman so they convince themselves that their most minimal efforts are all men want. Then socially, legally (and sometimes physically) bully men into accepting their imaginary worlds. They do this in every aspect of society, which is why you have so many weak men admitting that men are as good as women in sports and the workplace.
There are attractive women before 30 who are prime mating targets, attractive women post 30 who are prime sexual gratification partners.. and then the rest of them are just cattle.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 8 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 09:29:33 ago (+8/-0)
The definition of "value" changes whether it is applied to men or women.
It's like the word "bitch." Calling a man a bitch is saying he is a weak baby or a chicken. Calling a woman a bitch means shes rude, irritatingly tough, cunty.
So this is not a woman card thing.
If men used the woman definition of value, which means to assert your power, then men can manifest that on the spot, too. That's not a quality women possess. Men do this too (and should.)
If women used men's definition of value, which means how high other's measure your worth, then it would be silly to self appraise.
So these 2 are having a language problem, both using the word differently in a sentence. There are obviously nuances between men and women but this is not one of them.
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 3 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 12:19:34 ago (+3/-0)
Yes, that is totally different than a man's value, but my point is, the entire problem with women today is thinking what this woman thinks, that they get to define their value, and not understanding/accepting that their actual, tangible value is what I described above.
[ + ] Rawrination
[ - ] Rawrination 0 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 20:30:40 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 11:31:43 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] ToNigIsToNog
[ - ] ToNigIsToNog 6 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 11:48:21 ago (+6/-0)
for the most part in our age women are holes and that's the only value they place on things. arm candy and holes. and they want to charge you a premium for it. just holes.
[ + ] GeneralDisarray
[ - ] GeneralDisarray 2 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 15:46:37 ago (+2/-0)
They are telling you that you wont be getting your turn using their holes!!!!
They are absolutely moronic whores!!!!!!!
[ + ] ToNigIsToNog
[ - ] ToNigIsToNog 1 point 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 18:43:42 ago (+2/-1)
also women: "I am not just holes and an object for you to sexualize and I am not a whore."
Mhm.
[ + ] ModernGuilt
[ - ] ModernGuilt 4 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 10:21:48 ago (+6/-2)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 5 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 10:53:35 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] ModernGuilt
[ - ] ModernGuilt 2 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 20:36:30 ago (+2/-0)
The only reason society even humors women having these conversations or having women in engineering careers, is because men have become so bad at it, a cargo culting impostor can fit in undetected
I'm taking that Chiro. Cheers
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had 5 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 12:18:33 ago (+6/-1)
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 2 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 12:38:57 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 17:41:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Pasty
[ - ] Pasty 1 point 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 11:10:16 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] TheFuriousPatriot
[ - ] TheFuriousPatriot -6 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 12:18:35 ago (+1/-7)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 15:04:13 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] NuckFiggers
[ - ] NuckFiggers 3 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 15:45:49 ago (+3/-0)
Women lack empathy (that's why they are always crowing about it). If they had it they'd understand what men want in a woman. Instead, they only see the world through their eyes and believe everyone else in the world does the same. They can't possibly imagine what men want in a woman so they convince themselves that their most minimal efforts are all men want. Then socially, legally (and sometimes physically) bully men into accepting their imaginary worlds. They do this in every aspect of society, which is why you have so many weak men admitting that men are as good as women in sports and the workplace.
[ + ] MeatballTheDog
[ - ] MeatballTheDog 2 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 13:31:15 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] FuckShitJesus
[ - ] FuckShitJesus 2 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 11:20:17 ago (+4/-2)
There are attractive women before 30 who are prime mating targets, attractive women post 30 who are prime sexual gratification partners.. and then the rest of them are just cattle.
[ + ] LibertyTreeNoose
[ - ] LibertyTreeNoose 1 point 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 17:02:02 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] TheNoticing
[ - ] TheNoticing 1 point 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 12:32:31 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Deathstalker
[ - ] Deathstalker 1 point 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 10:07:57 ago (+1/-0)
Unless you're a parasitic human. Then you can fake it till you make it.
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 17:18:55 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII -1 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 12:26:44 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Deplorablepoetry
[ - ] Deplorablepoetry -2 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2023 10:24:54 ago (+0/-2)
Who wants the vagina? I do I do!