The F-16 is not designed to operate in the environment that is waiting for it in the Ukrainian airspace. The F-16 is an interceptor designed to go from a secure airfield to a combat environment and then return to its secure base. It’s not designed to operate in a combat environment from rough fields and threats from take off to landing. It’s not that kind of jet. They’ll need to base them outside of Ukraine. Which would lead to justifiable russian attacks into the host countries, which will lead to further dangerous escalation.
Ukraine still has planes and they still fly sorties. But neither side has air superiority because of anti-aircraft missiles, so they fly them in their own territory and use them as mobile rocket launchers. The F16's will give Ukraine access to the F16 missile platform.
Western Ukraine would be safe enough as long as they don't park them in one spot for too long. Russia lacks the ability to gather intelligence far from the front and quickly generate a fire mission large enough to penetrate Ukrainian air defence.
If you gave high school kids in America 1 year and 5 million dollars they could make a fighter drone that could wipe out all our air force. China already has this.
Just imagine 1 million drones coming at our navy each drone is a kamikaze and has 2 misses and 100 rounds of let's say 50 cal machine gun fire. So it can shoot 100 rounds and shoot two missles and is a flying bomb.
Probably the same response the last dozen times Russian's 'red lines' have been crossed. Absolutely nothing. Short of using nuclear weapons Russia is already doing everything they can do.
Yes Putin is just playing 4D chess and is waiting to lose more territory before making his move.
Putin will mobilize more troops but he is limited but public sentiment which is highly against mobilization. Unless he wants to deal with a public uprising and opportunistic internal opponents.
Even if the people were willing you can only send so many men to the front without gutting your industry. This isn't WW2, you can't just sub in women into your factories because they are already working.
Ukraine doesn't have either of these problems, their population is largely more willing to fight and has to worry about industry less as they are supported by the West.
Russia isn't losing territory and any advancement being made by Ukraine into the regions that they've previously lost has cost tens of thousands of white lives and will be short-lived. When this is done. The two regions will be liberated from Ukraine, and will vote to join Russia. Ukraine will promise to never join NATO or the EU, and AZOV will be destroyed or denounced as criminals. The 100% full and complete stated goals of Russia and Putin.
Russia has no need to mobilize more troops. You should probably stop watching the television and the war wongers. Russia's economy is getting stronger, inflation is low, Putin is offering money to people to build families, and oil sales are near pre-sanction levels. Hell, they even sell deisle to Ukraine. Meanwhile, the US and EU are succumbing to economic disaster. Energy prices in Europe are 40% higher because of sanctions, inflation is out of control, migration is turning their countries brown, and the cost of living is skyrocketing.
If Ukraine was doing good, they wouldn't need more money, more weapons, and more ammo, at a rate that is unsustainable. They wouldn't be dropping cluster bombs in their own country. They wouldn't be drone striking inside Russia with pathetic nuisance drones like terrorists. Russia is destroying Ukraine military assets on the daily.
I don't know what fuckin' planet you live on, but Russia has strengthened its ties to China, the brics nations (now 61 and counting) and is about to remove the USD as world reserve currency, and compete using a gold backed BICS currency. They simply need to maintain status quo and watch the US and EU eat itself alive.
Joe Biden said sending Ukraine f16's would mean ww3, and now we are sending f16's, which means risking nuclear annihilation over a shit hole 3rd rate, most corrupt county in Europe, who gave Biden and his crackhead kid millions in graft. How long do you think this 1980's model jets are gonna last? Is it worth the risk? Cause the smell of desperation isn't coming from Russia.
The only thing that can save Biden now is getting directly involved in a war. This will allow him to clamp down much harder domestically, and attempt to paint any opposition as "Domestic Terrorism".
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[ + ] Doglegwarrior
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If you gave high school kids in America 1 year and 5 million dollars they could make a fighter drone that could wipe out all our air force. China already has this.
Just imagine 1 million drones coming at our navy each drone is a kamikaze and has 2 misses and 100 rounds of let's say 50 cal machine gun fire. So it can shoot 100 rounds and shoot two missles and is a flying bomb.
[ + ] JoesLegHair
[ - ] JoesLegHair 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 20, 2023 13:00:44 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 20, 2023 10:07:32 ago (+1/-0)
Get them destroyed in order to justify the sale of brand new F-35s to every NATO country.
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[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 20, 2023 15:46:23 ago (+0/-0)
As if, they were just trying to fool Russia.
These western politicians are betraying, yet again, their people
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 20, 2023 09:40:39 ago (+3/-0)
I'm just waiting to see the response.
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[ + ] JoesLegHair
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Putin will mobilize more troops but he is limited but public sentiment which is highly against mobilization. Unless he wants to deal with a public uprising and opportunistic internal opponents.
Even if the people were willing you can only send so many men to the front without gutting your industry. This isn't WW2, you can't just sub in women into your factories because they are already working.
Ukraine doesn't have either of these problems, their population is largely more willing to fight and has to worry about industry less as they are supported by the West.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 21, 2023 20:58:00 ago (+0/-0)
Russia has no need to mobilize more troops. You should probably stop watching the television and the war wongers. Russia's economy is getting stronger, inflation is low, Putin is offering money to people to build families, and oil sales are near pre-sanction levels. Hell, they even sell deisle to Ukraine. Meanwhile, the US and EU are succumbing to economic disaster. Energy prices in Europe are 40% higher because of sanctions, inflation is out of control, migration is turning their countries brown, and the cost of living is skyrocketing.
If Ukraine was doing good, they wouldn't need more money, more weapons, and more ammo, at a rate that is unsustainable. They wouldn't be dropping cluster bombs in their own country. They wouldn't be drone striking inside Russia with pathetic nuisance drones like terrorists. Russia is destroying Ukraine military assets on the daily.
I don't know what fuckin' planet you live on, but Russia has strengthened its ties to China, the brics nations (now 61 and counting) and is about to remove the USD as world reserve currency, and compete using a gold backed BICS currency. They simply need to maintain status quo and watch the US and EU eat itself alive.
Joe Biden said sending Ukraine f16's would mean ww3, and now we are sending f16's, which means risking nuclear annihilation over a shit hole 3rd rate, most corrupt county in Europe, who gave Biden and his crackhead kid millions in graft. How long do you think this 1980's model jets are gonna last? Is it worth the risk? Cause the smell of desperation isn't coming from Russia.
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[ + ] KosherHiveKicker
[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 20, 2023 14:18:54 ago (+0/-0)
The only thing that can save Biden now is getting directly involved in a war. This will allow him to clamp down much harder domestically, and attempt to paint any opposition as "Domestic Terrorism".
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