In the end its always about the money, be it that you have to make too much hours for the pay, or put up with too much shit, or that its literally not worth it.
No serisously is it an american thing? I want to do my job, get in my time, pray for no overtime and get the fuck out there. No stay around with a bunch of assholes and play ping pong, but yeah maybe those without a family claw to their shitty jobs.
My staff /always/ choose flex time over overtime pay, none of them want to work more. Every damn payday they're at 80 hours and I'm stuck at 90-100 hours trying to keep the lights on.
That being said, we do have a 3 hour lunch once a week where we all get drunk and stop being productive the rest of the day, I guess it's our version of ping pong.
see what I said yesterday about you is accurate, it's late night and your kike ass can't help yourself but to spew filthy niggerspeak here
you kikes are all the same, 84IQ having half breed niggers who think you are "better then everyone else" because you have "White skin" while forgetting White people have White genetics, the very thing you covet
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 20:17:56 ago (+1/-0)
I work at a company that pays the bare minimum for all employees, but makes it so they have a whole lot of freedom on how they archieve their milestones. Its a great tradeoff. Everyone is reasonably motivated that long work hours are not the norm and the amount of BS is little.
Most physically useless Americans work in a cuck office where they don't do shit. And yeah you can bet your ass they aren't allowed to use it during paid work time. Any time there's a company appreciation dinner I don't even ask, I charge for it lmao. Don't invite me if you don't want to pay me. They haven't said shit to me and never will.
No lol they know I'm not so easily replaceable. Maybe if you had valuable skills or education they'd feel the same about you. You're just a wal mart worker
While he's saying he's a wage slave too, he does understand what motivates the lower level slaves. The bigger question is, how do you induce a man to become the employee of another man?
I think he's technically right, in that a benefit might be inconsequential to the bottom line vs the wage increase for a plethora of staff. At the individual level it is different, but at the corporate scales the trend is to provide shitty benefits which pacify the staff much more so than paying them a proper wage.
The real trick is to find the right business of your own to start. I've failed here, but my kids are on the right path to being their own masters at least.
Appealing to the tards drives any star employees away. You've retained entertainment serfs while losing high value production. This is a trend followed by the same corps that push DEI nonsense.
It's not about appealing to the tards, it's about holding on to reliable workers and being able to ask them to work harder than usual when shit hits the fan, be that someone in sales over-promising to land a big client or some twat in marketing sending out emails that new product/service will be launching in an entirely unrealistic timeframe.
Smart people know that quality of life is the most important factor (yes money is part of that) and that's what you want.
Smart people who will work hard when needed.
The companies that don't understand this, and have the mindset that everyone should be working at 100% all the time, are almost exclusively staffed by idiots.
I remember at a redundancy leaving dinner (some American bought the company and exported our jobs to the US) lots of people saying they only stayed in the company because of me and they knew they could only hope to get a boss as easy going as me in the next job.... I more than doubled their workload.
No, sounds like you've yet to experience competent management.
If all you have to keep people at a job is money, they will leave as soon as they can get more.
And even if you are paying over the odds for the work, you will still struggle to hold on to them, also these types of people usually have very little loyalty and are often the first to stark carping on about 'muh job description'.
Creating an environment where people are happy is not about manipulation.
Recruitment can be a bitch, and good people who aren't progressive twats can be tricky to find.
It’s so true. Benefits keep employees being employees. We took a talented technician from a competitor over .61 per day. Literally all these people were denying him was medical coverage for he and his young family. It cost us a dollar a day.
The biggest benefit I've noticed you can offer... Is walking distance to work.
Hire local people wherever possible.
Not just for the money either, though having said that, 20 minute walk to work Vs 1hr public transport commute is worth anywhere between 2-6k per year (higher of the range if there is shit to do near the work location)
[ + ] HeavyBrain
[ - ] HeavyBrain 9 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 16:19:20 ago (+9/-0)
No serisously is it an american thing? I want to do my job, get in my time, pray for no overtime and get the fuck out there.
No stay around with a bunch of assholes and play ping pong, but yeah maybe those without a family claw to their shitty jobs.
[ + ] mannerbund
[ - ] mannerbund 3 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 18:51:27 ago (+3/-0)
That being said, we do have a 3 hour lunch once a week where we all get drunk and stop being productive the rest of the day, I guess it's our version of ping pong.
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted -2 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 20:47:53 ago (+1/-3)
[ + ] AryanPrime
[ - ] AryanPrime 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 01:45:49 ago (+1/-1)
you kikes are all the same, 84IQ having half breed niggers who think you are "better then everyone else" because you have "White skin" while forgetting White people have White genetics, the very thing you covet
Just stop kike, you are embarrassing yourself
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 08:16:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 20:17:56 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Bottled_Tears
[ - ] Bottled_Tears 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 01:23:01 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HeavyBrain
[ - ] HeavyBrain 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 07:12:45 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 5 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 16:45:01 ago (+5/-0)*
[ + ] mannerbund
[ - ] mannerbund 2 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 18:49:23 ago (+2/-0)
After your shower and cleanup from being covered in oil?
After dusting off the coal 14 minutes into your 15 minute break?
Oh I know, after work, when you'd rather not be there.
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 19:30:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] AryanPrime
[ - ] AryanPrime -1 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 01:48:48 ago (+0/-1)
you people are fucking evil, stop pretending to be one of us
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 10:42:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] froggy
[ - ] froggy 2 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 17:28:04 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted -2 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 20:49:09 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 1 point 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 15:39:14 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Nikker
[ - ] Nikker 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 04:20:23 ago (+0/-0)
The answer is NEVER $$$.
The scientific business management textbooks never outright claim it, but ultimately, wink wink.. It's NEVER ABOUT THE MONEY!
How to motivate employees? Ping pong tables, an employee of the month poster, a morning chant.. Anything but money.
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 16:48:08 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 15:41:34 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -2 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 15:39:05 ago (+1/-3)
Money spent on 'benefits' far outperform additional money spent on salaries when it comes to staff retention.
That's assuming it's a decent/ livable wage to start with though.
Perceived value will always trump true value unfortunately
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 3 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 17:59:34 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 1 point 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 19:43:47 ago (+1/-0)
Not only on the perceived value Vs cost missmatch.
"Free coffee from in house barista"
Cost of the coffee is negligible and staffer is a low salary position that can offer eye candy and social interaction outside the office politics.
The perception of the value of the coffee will be taken at retail by the employee.
So your dollar of cost equates to a 15 dollar "saving".
On top of that when weighing up whether to stay or jump ship, benefits get listed.
On top of that, you are going to get way more out of your staff if you have a variable productivity rate.
And remember folks, kpi's are a crutch for the weak
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 2 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 19:53:17 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 10:13:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 10:20:33 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 22:25:30 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 23:11:30 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] mannerbund
[ - ] mannerbund 0 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 18:53:47 ago (+0/-0)
The real trick is to find the right business of your own to start. I've failed here, but my kids are on the right path to being their own masters at least.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 3 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 19:42:26 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 11:34:03 ago (+0/-1)
Smart people know that quality of life is the most important factor (yes money is part of that) and that's what you want.
Smart people who will work hard when needed.
The companies that don't understand this, and have the mindset that everyone should be working at 100% all the time, are almost exclusively staffed by idiots.
I remember at a redundancy leaving dinner (some American bought the company and exported our jobs to the US) lots of people saying they only stayed in the company because of me and they knew they could only hope to get a boss as easy going as me in the next job.... I more than doubled their workload.
How you treat people matters.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 12:01:59 ago (+1/-0)
Grats on your experience but this wasn't an interview.
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 12:23:57 ago (+0/-1)
If all you have to keep people at a job is money, they will leave as soon as they can get more.
And even if you are paying over the odds for the work, you will still struggle to hold on to them, also these types of people usually have very little loyalty and are often the first to stark carping on about 'muh job description'.
Creating an environment where people are happy is not about manipulation.
Recruitment can be a bitch, and good people who aren't progressive twats can be tricky to find.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 13:31:43 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 21:51:00 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 1 point 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 22:28:27 ago (+1/-0)
Hire local people wherever possible.
Not just for the money either, though having said that, 20 minute walk to work Vs 1hr public transport commute is worth anywhere between 2-6k per year (higher of the range if there is shit to do near the work location)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2023 23:13:42 ago (+0/-0)