I'm so sick of this shit. An INVASION is when masses of troops, trucks, and tanks go rolling across the border, and spread out all around the country. This did not happen.
After 8 years of Ukraine shelling ethnic Russian areas, Putin finally had enough. He warned Ukraine countless times, and they ignored him. He finally started targeting SPECIFIC MILITARY TARGETS. Troops and tanks never crashed across the border and spread out all over the country.
Ukraine has power, water, internet, TV, radio, food, medicine, etc etc etc. NONE of which they would have after an 'invasion'. Zelenski is a kike puppet of the US, sending White Christian young men to die so that Israel can finally kick off with their decades-old plan 'The New Jerusalem Project'. That is all you need to know. Ukraine defenders are on the same intellectual level as paint-huffing niggers.
US State Department jews fomented and financed a coup against the elected government of Ukraine in 2014, then installed an anti-Russian puppet. Murders of Russians became the new pastime.
On May 11, 2014, the DPR and LPR declared independence from Ukraine, after Ukraine launched ethnic cleansing operations against the overwhelmingly ethnic Russian population.
In February of 2022, Russia (fucking finally) sent the military on a Special Military Operation to defend the independent territories in eastern Ukraine from the ongoing genocide.
On September 30, 2022, Russia accepted the DPR and LPR territories into Russia after overwhelmingly pro-Russia referendums.
To this day (July 22, 2023), the Ukrainian military is still shelling civilians from the territory they hold. To end the genocide, Russia will have to create a buffer zone beyond their borders as wide as the range of all weapons systems held by Ukraine.
If you didn't watch the torture-murder videos published and celebrated by the Ukrainian military between 2014 and 2022, you may not understand the reasons for the above recent events.
Mostly correct. Clearly omits the role of Nazi type nationalists in actually battling the Ukrainian security forces on the streets of Kiev, leading to the toppling of the Russia somewhat friendly regime though.
When Russia called Euromaidan a brown revolution it did so for a reason. To this day it is fair to say anti-Semitism among Ukraine's fighting forces extends well beyond mere Azov, hence the Russian Nazi narrative.
If you've read Huntington you'll know Ukraine has long been a 'cleft country'. A more westerncentric population the further west you go culminating around Lvov. Polish and Austro-Hungarian historical influences. Whereas the east is more or less Russia. I'd say less more than more. They aren't simply ethnic Russians all told.
The proximate cause of the conflict beyond this longer backstory is that even the 'pro-Russian' leader, Viktor Yanukovych, was moving closer to the EU, Russia applied gas blackmail as a counter, which caused him to reverse course, and that got the Russophobes into the streets of Kiev. The fascists though were the ones that did the fighting. There's a reason why it's the cover of SIEGE.
A FEW tanks does not make an 'invasion'. They have SPECIFIC MILITARY OBJECTIVES. All this could have been avoided, had the US simply said Ukraine will not be joining NATO. Putin has watched for YEARS as the US gets closer and closer to Moscow. NATO is an existential threat to Russia.
PS: the US and the world were SILENT the past 9-10 years, as Ukraine bombed the ethnic Russian territories. Men, women, and children slaughtered. No one gave a fuck. And Ukraine was 'the most corrupt country on Earth' until just 2 years ago, now they are magically The Good Guys. A coke-addicted homosexual jew comedian 'leader' is being fed money, fame, and adulation, as White Christian young men die for NOTHING.
The US pressures countries to join NATO. May I remind you, or teach you, that Russia does not have any bases outside Russia besides one in Syria? The US hegemony has bases ALL OVER THE FUCKING WORLD.
This is true, although "ethnic" Russians SPEAK Russian while Ukrainians speak Ukrainian which closely resembles Russian. Zelenskiy made it illegal to speak Russian in those Eastern provinces...
I said there is no INVASION. Of course there is a SPECIAL MILITARY ACTION, which involves blowing shit up and killing people. But Ukraine was not INVADED. Look the word 'invaded' up. Dropping bombs on military bases is NOT the same as INVADING A COUNTRY.
[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 23, 2023 02:28:57 ago (+1/-0)*
Whatever but what about these statements:
Attacks on civilians in the Russian [invasion] of Ukraine Widespread use of torture by Russian military in Ukraine Russia executed 77 civilians detained by its forces, UN says
My point is...whatever else you call Russia's military adventure in the Ukraine it is nothing short of genocide. Russia should be forever banished from the table of civilised nations.
They shelled ethnic Russians because they tried to leave Ukraine. It would be like if Texas tried to leave the United States and America was like nope.
It happened on Reddit, yes, but Ukraine is NOT UNDER RUSSIAN MILITARY OCCUPATION. All of their services work. Kiev webcams show a normal city with normal traffic.
lol, Ukraine has its own language and culture. Putin does not want to make them part of Russia, never did, never said he did. Your strawman 'arguments' are pathetic.
Putin could have carpet-bombed all of Ukraine on day one, but didn't. There are LIMITED MILITARY ACTIONS focused on small areas. Putin has no desire to INVAAAAAAAAAAADE and occupy Ukraine. Why hasn't he bombed all the power plants, dams, and bridges?
Maybe they don't wanna DESTROY THE WHOLE FUCKIN COUNTRY??? Did that occur to you? It was never supposed to be more than some limited military strikes. I think Herr Putin underestimated how much support Uke would get from cucked Western cuntries. I hope this winter he stops selling fuel to them all.
I am not privy to his plan, but it's taking way longer than it should have. I would have cut off all electricity on day one. It's possible this is a fake 'war' for profit, on both sides. Young men are expendable, always have been.
Zelenski is a kike puppet of the US, sending White Christian young men to die
Oh so if they are not Christian he does not send them to die? Or are you trying to interweave your religious fairy tale into the very slaughter of very real physical men?
In your opinion are the only two states a White man can exist in are Christian and Kike? I must tell you before you write another retarded retort: the vast vast majority of your ancestors were not Christian.
Also you are incorrect. There are numerous active hasidic communities in Ukraine where entry is barred by the police for non-jews. You don't have to leave the country to avoid the war if you can bribe the commissars.
Find a way to make your point that isn't fallacious hyperbole, moron.
I dont give a fuck about what happened 1000 years ago, Shlomo. Most Ukes are Orthodox Christian. The kikes either left or...YES, are bribing officials to stay in their gated communities. But they AIN'T ON THE FRONT LINES. Thanks for helping me MAKE MY POINT about the New Jerusalem Project.
MOST kikes left, this is beyond question. SOME did stay behind because they have businesses, livestock, whatever. It was the same in WW2... Why are you retarded?
Should I go to Ukraine and knock on every door, asking them if they are jewish or not? I never said that EVERY SINGLE JEW left. 'The kikes left' = most of them, the ones with money, the ones that COULD easily leave.
The fighting is on the EASTERN BORDER. If you live elsewhere, there is no real pressing need to leave...because Russian troops have NOT INVADED THE COUNTRY.
I have no dog in this fight. Putin is no angel, but NATO is getting closer and closer to Moscow, after the US repeatedly said over the years that they would NOT. Imagine Russia building bases all over Canada and Mexico, how would the US react? It is an existential threat.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 15:23:41 ago (+1/-0)
I have no dog in this fight.
Is that why you make flattard Earth level posts denying basic reality?
Putin is no angel, but NATO is getting closer and closer to Moscow, after the US repeatedly said over the years that they would NOT.
Yes, that's the excuse for Putin's invasion of Ukraine. But there was no treaty with the US not to move NATO eastward, and no amount of pinky promise private conversations change that. Ukraine can also join whatever organizations it wants, especially if it feels threatened by a Big Brother that wants to treat it like a vassal state.
And what was the result of Putin's invasion? Now Finland and Sweden is part of NATO, with Finland being on Russia's border. And Ukraine is more militarized than ever. And more Russians have died since the invasion that in all the years combined during Ukraine's internal conflict.
Imagine Russia building bases all over Canada and Mexico, how would the US react? It is an existential threat.
Cuba was allied with the USSR. The Cuban missile crisis was with the Russian plan to put nuclear missiles there. Anyways, the US never did invade Cuba, though of course they encouraged revolutionaries in the Bay of Pigs.
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[ - ] Sector7 5 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 16:27:35 ago (+7/-2)*
[history from ~800 to 2014 not covered]
US State Department jews fomented and financed a coup against the elected government of Ukraine in 2014, then installed an anti-Russian puppet. Murders of Russians became the new pastime.
On May 11, 2014, the DPR and LPR declared independence from Ukraine, after Ukraine launched ethnic cleansing operations against the overwhelmingly ethnic Russian population.
In February of 2022, Russia (fucking finally) sent the military on a Special Military Operation to defend the independent territories in eastern Ukraine from the ongoing genocide.
On September 30, 2022, Russia accepted the DPR and LPR territories into Russia after overwhelmingly pro-Russia referendums.
To this day (July 22, 2023), the Ukrainian military is still shelling civilians from the territory they hold. To end the genocide, Russia will have to create a buffer zone beyond their borders as wide as the range of all weapons systems held by Ukraine.
If you didn't watch the torture-murder videos published and celebrated by the Ukrainian military between 2014 and 2022, you may not understand the reasons for the above recent events.
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[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 23:10:12 ago (+2/-3)*
When Russia called Euromaidan a brown revolution it did so for a reason. To this day it is fair to say anti-Semitism among Ukraine's fighting forces extends well beyond mere Azov, hence the Russian Nazi narrative.
If you've read Huntington you'll know Ukraine has long been a 'cleft country'. A more westerncentric population the further west you go culminating around Lvov. Polish and Austro-Hungarian historical influences. Whereas the east is more or less Russia. I'd say less more than more. They aren't simply ethnic Russians all told.
The proximate cause of the conflict beyond this longer backstory is that even the 'pro-Russian' leader, Viktor Yanukovych, was moving closer to the EU, Russia applied gas blackmail as a counter, which caused him to reverse course, and that got the Russophobes into the streets of Kiev. The fascists though were the ones that did the fighting. There's a reason why it's the cover of SIEGE.
https://media.9news.com/assets/KUSA/images/86bc39b0-1bcd-4ff0-8efc-99604decdb2f/86bc39b0-1bcd-4ff0-8efc-99604decdb2f_1140x641.jpg
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[ - ] texasblood -1 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 18:39:39 ago (+0/-1)
Punk ass bitchs
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[ - ] correctness 3 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 14:26:28 ago (+5/-2)
https://files.catbox.moe/pxwnk1.jpg
Russian tanks in Bucha town February 28 2022
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PS: the US and the world were SILENT the past 9-10 years, as Ukraine bombed the ethnic Russian territories. Men, women, and children slaughtered. No one gave a fuck. And Ukraine was 'the most corrupt country on Earth' until just 2 years ago, now they are magically The Good Guys. A coke-addicted homosexual jew comedian 'leader' is being fed money, fame, and adulation, as White Christian young men die for NOTHING.
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[ - ] correctness 3 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 15:36:50 ago (+4/-1)
https://files.catbox.moe/u6cdnz.mp4
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[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 16:07:31 ago (+1/-0)
Russian is not an ethnicity. Russians and Ukranians are ethnically identical.
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[ - ] Horrux 2 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 17:02:42 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 23, 2023 14:06:32 ago (+1/-0)
When I lived in Kiev, we mostly spoke Russian. My grandma and grandpa are in Kiev they speak in Russian with each other.
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[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 23, 2023 02:28:57 ago (+1/-0)*
Attacks on civilians in the Russian [invasion] of Ukraine
Widespread use of torture by Russian military in Ukraine
Russia executed 77 civilians detained by its forces, UN says
My point is...whatever else you call Russia's military adventure in the Ukraine it is nothing short of genocide. Russia should be forever banished from the table of civilised nations.
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[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 21:13:22 ago (+0/-0)
That's fucking reddit newspeak
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[ - ] PhantomXLII 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 14:11:29 ago (+3/-3)
Lmfao yes it did.
I don't need to read the rest of your bullshit. You can't even tell a war from a skirmish.
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It's all pure NPC tier distractions while you do nothing about anything in your actual sphere of influence
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[ - ] JoesLegHair 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 23, 2023 12:45:46 ago (+0/-0)
Edit, the West only started increasing it's aid to Ukraine after* it proved they could hold off the Russians.
[ + ] Anus_Expander
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[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel -2 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 16:06:27 ago (+1/-3)
Oh so if they are not Christian he does not send them to die? Or are you trying to interweave your religious fairy tale into the very slaughter of very real physical men?
fuck off jew
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander [op] 3 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 16:12:00 ago (+4/-1)
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel -1 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 16:39:21 ago (+1/-2)
Also you are incorrect. There are numerous active hasidic communities in Ukraine where entry is barred by the police for non-jews. You don't have to leave the country to avoid the war if you can bribe the commissars.
Find a way to make your point that isn't fallacious hyperbole, moron.
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[ - ] Anus_Expander [op] -1 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 18:06:23 ago (+1/-2)
I dont give a fuck about what happened 1000 years ago, Shlomo. Most Ukes are Orthodox Christian. The kikes either left or...YES, are bribing officials to stay in their gated communities. But they AIN'T ON THE FRONT LINES. Thanks for helping me MAKE MY POINT about the New Jerusalem Project.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel -1 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 18:12:47 ago (+0/-1)
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[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 19:36:33 ago (+1/-1)
To say the history of White people is not valuable is inherently a jewish claim.
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[ - ] Anus_Expander [op] 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 23, 2023 05:25:39 ago (+0/-0)
The fighting is on the EASTERN BORDER. If you live elsewhere, there is no real pressing need to leave...because Russian troops have NOT INVADED THE COUNTRY.
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[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 15:23:41 ago (+1/-0)
Is that why you make flattard Earth level posts denying basic reality?
Yes, that's the excuse for Putin's invasion of Ukraine. But there was no treaty with the US not to move NATO eastward, and no amount of pinky promise private conversations change that. Ukraine can also join whatever organizations it wants, especially if it feels threatened by a Big Brother that wants to treat it like a vassal state.
And what was the result of Putin's invasion? Now Finland and Sweden is part of NATO, with Finland being on Russia's border. And Ukraine is more militarized than ever. And more Russians have died since the invasion that in all the years combined during Ukraine's internal conflict.
Cuba was allied with the USSR. The Cuban missile crisis was with the Russian plan to put nuclear missiles there. Anyways, the US never did invade Cuba, though of course they encouraged revolutionaries in the Bay of Pigs.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 2 points 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 18:11:45 ago (+2/-0)
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[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 23, 2023 01:18:52 ago (+0/-0)
Let me guess, chistcuck?
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 23, 2023 02:55:34 ago (+0/-0)
You mean like that the flattard-level idea that Ukraine wasn't invaded?
Lulz: https://www.talk.lol/viewpost?postid=642530abac083
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 23, 2023 04:34:49 ago (+0/-0)
If you can't quote it then kys.
[ + ] JoesLegHair
[ - ] JoesLegHair 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 22, 2023 21:17:20 ago (+1/-0)
The US isn't forcing anyone into NATO, countries want to join because they don't want to be invaded. You know, like Ukraine.
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