Once you’ve had your mouth railed with dicks and your anus fisted and even double fisted in most cases, by the clergy, by the time you’re seven, you’re sick of the Catholics and all their dicks and fists all up in you, so you decide to move on and by the time you’re eight, you have a full blown anti-religious sentiment.
It all makes sense once you realize "IT'S ALL JEWS", even your corner is controled by jews.
The solution is to eliminate the Jews.
Of course, most Chistians are able to notice the jews in all the other cults. But, they are blind to the jews in their own cult. Because the purpose of Christianity is to protect jews.
No, of course not. Christ-Cucks lack the heuristics required for self-reflection.
So, let's say you've already invited 10 people from your cult into your house. But then you realize the possibility that one is a vampire. What would you do to find out who is the vampire?
Or, do you just assume everyone is totally not a vampire, because they all come from your cult?
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 20, 2023 22:51:02 ago (+1/-0)
This seems like a really well-balanced and fair poll that not only exhausts all logical possibilities, but will surely also capture a representative data set. Thanks for applying yourself to its design.
I was just giving you a hard time, haha. The humor lies with the fact that people taking up or laying down religious beliefs are each really complex situations. Your poll gives two possibilities for why this happens, with the added premise that, in Catholicism, apostasy tends to correlate with greater anti-religious zealotry than for other religious traditions. If you care to read what follows, I'll give you a serious answer:
*******
Well, it seems like you are asking two questions. First, why are people likelier to leave the Catholic belief system than others? Second, if one leaves the Catholic belief system, why are they likelier to be more zealously anti-religious?
The first thing we should do when setting out to answer questions like these is to establish whether or not we've identified something real. Is the trend you've noticed something that's actually occurring? We might want to see some evidence that justifies your belief that, yes, this is happening. I wouldn't be a stickler about this if what you were saying seemed obviously true. For example, if you made some connection between vile politicians and Jews, I'd probably not have blinked. But I personally haven't noticed that anti-religious zealotry has any obviously stronger linkage with Catholicism than it does with Judaism, Islam, or Protestantism. I personally know a handful of Jews my age who are (strong) atheists, but who had religious parents or grandparents. Why should I think ex-Catholics are more strongly anti-religious? Furthermore, what's your sample population? If you are gathering these observations anecdotally, then perhaps you live in a predominantly Catholic part of the world. That would mean it could be some influence like 'college attendance' that's really the culprit for anti-religious zealotry, but you happened to observe it in a population of college students that were simply likelier to be Catholic based on geography.
The next thing is to lay out some hypotheses, which you've done. However, given how complex things like religious thinking, religious commitment, and changes in religious commitment can be, it seems exceedingly unlikely that one or two hypotheses are going to help you create a useful survey - in fact, it seems like your survey is just begging the question. Rather than exploring what the data really are, you're loading it to support a conclusion you've already reached.
The two hypotheses you've provided amount to:
(1) Catholicism is intentionally churning out anti-religious zealots, cannibalizing their own Catholic population in order to poison the religious well for all.
(2) Catholicism is wrong and stupid.
Is it possible not to construe these options as biased?
How about these other hypotheses:
(3) There is no effect of Catholicism; I don't perceive any variability in anti-religious zealotry between ex-Catholics or ex-members of other religions.
(4) Catholic education has been underfunded and under-researched, resulting in a failure to adapt to aggregate changes in cultural needs for religious instruction.
(5) The overall impacts of commitment to Catholicism on one's life are greater than in other religious traditions, requiring a more comprehensive lifetime sacrifice (of time, energy, resources, devotion, etc.), so that people who react negatively to the faith tend to hold greater resentment toward religion than other faiths, whose members may not have perceived themselves to have wagered as much of their lives on false premises.
These are just a few ideas. There's no need to insert them in your survey. I don't think surveys are fit to answer the questions you're trying to answer.
dock is back with a vengeance and has been active on Chat and is posting subs but he has been AWOl from the Site and I think we deserve an explanation. Why the hiatus? Please explain.
[ - ] Name 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 21, 2023 06:05:11 ago (+0/-0)
Just out of curiosity did you feel any sense of community? This one hour every week you spent with the same group of people, did you make any friends? Were they people from your neighborhood or school that you associated with regularly?
1. No. Mass was in latin. Couldn't understand a word. Wanted to be up the bush chasing frogs. Used to ogle the Mitchell girls. Blonde hair...phwoar!
2. I used to meet up with me mates sometimes but I didn't make any friends through the religious activities.
3. Yeah a few were. Lot of people attended mass. I can still remember the part where the Priest lifted the chalice and muttered some incantation and I knew the end was about 15 mins away! Talk about child abuse!
[ - ] Name 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 21, 2023 06:46:28 ago (+0/-0)
“Mass was in Latin.“
Wait a minute, how old are you? They stomped that stuff almost out of existence 50 years ago. I guess you stopped participating before they made the priest face the other direction.
The amish are more committed. You can literally walk into a Catholic mass in the clothes you slept on the sidewalk with last night, dunno what kind of sacrifices you are talking about, other than common discipline - but hindsight I’m incredibly thankful and understand most people - kikes especially - are bitter about having near to zero discipline and can’t get the simplest things done because they never committed any amount of time to anything “burdensome.”
Because the Christian version of Abrahamism is what we have the most exposure to in the west and it is translated into multiple languages, English for starters is a big help unless you you can read Arabic or Hebrew. Its a good stepping stone to trash the other more vile sand-nigger religions like shitslam and kikery.
I think a part of it is that people sense how weak of a religion it is in its current form. Does not do enough to protect the sheep while at the same time feels a bit repressive with its rules. As such people begin to have disgust for it as it feels like a waste of time for no tangible benefits.
Sorta like a shepard watching a flock who refuses to intervene when a wolf attacks it and who only has a string fence to keep the flock inside their area of influence.
I agree somewhat that there is some molestation issues in the catholic church. Having said that compared to judaism or islam is it not as prevalent(to my knowledge at least).
Any group that acquires some societal power will have bad actors that get inducted into it that use it for their own nefarious purposes. In this case the molestation. Now, if the church made a example with massive repercussions of the priests who abuse children that would be commendable. But sadly it typically just gets sweep under the rug, denied or worse they move the priest in question to a different area so as to allow the cycle of abuse to occur in other areas(which make it worse obviously).
I don't have enough info to comment on this tim guy.
I can certainly believe that. The jesuits/jews have a tendancy of getting their fingers in as many pies as possible to exploit good folks for their own subversive and parasitical desires. But again, we come back to my initial point in the regards that the church is weak and needs to start taking care of its congregation from those who intend to do it harm.
If it does not do so, then it is going to forever be meet with scorn and ridicule. With the followers who felt betrayed from within being the most adamant towards its destruction.
The only thing that you are in control of is our thoughts, emotions, and actions. If someone has made you angry, you are complicit in their assault; Don't get mad, get even.
The four virtues of Stoicism is wisdom, courage, temperance/moderation, and justice. Christianity also borrows a lot from the most prevalent philosophical basis of stoic writings, as it does from Western Germanic and Celtic mythology and symbolism to make the jew mind poison (christianity) more palatable.
Feel free to contribute to v/Stoicism. I might add more to it within the next few weeks.
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Guess the top result.
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The solution is to eliminate the Jews.
Of course, most Chistians are able to notice the jews in all the other cults. But, they are blind to the jews in their own cult.
Because the purpose of Christianity is to protect jews.
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So, let's say you've already invited 10 people from your cult into your house.
But then you realize the possibility that one is a vampire.
What would you do to find out who is the vampire?
Or, do you just assume everyone is totally not a vampire, because they all come from your cult?
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Why can't you fuckers ever pass the test?
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*******
Well, it seems like you are asking two questions. First, why are people likelier to leave the Catholic belief system than others? Second, if one leaves the Catholic belief system, why are they likelier to be more zealously anti-religious?
The first thing we should do when setting out to answer questions like these is to establish whether or not we've identified something real. Is the trend you've noticed something that's actually occurring? We might want to see some evidence that justifies your belief that, yes, this is happening. I wouldn't be a stickler about this if what you were saying seemed obviously true. For example, if you made some connection between vile politicians and Jews, I'd probably not have blinked. But I personally haven't noticed that anti-religious zealotry has any obviously stronger linkage with Catholicism than it does with Judaism, Islam, or Protestantism. I personally know a handful of Jews my age who are (strong) atheists, but who had religious parents or grandparents. Why should I think ex-Catholics are more strongly anti-religious? Furthermore, what's your sample population? If you are gathering these observations anecdotally, then perhaps you live in a predominantly Catholic part of the world. That would mean it could be some influence like 'college attendance' that's really the culprit for anti-religious zealotry, but you happened to observe it in a population of college students that were simply likelier to be Catholic based on geography.
The next thing is to lay out some hypotheses, which you've done. However, given how complex things like religious thinking, religious commitment, and changes in religious commitment can be, it seems exceedingly unlikely that one or two hypotheses are going to help you create a useful survey - in fact, it seems like your survey is just begging the question. Rather than exploring what the data really are, you're loading it to support a conclusion you've already reached.
The two hypotheses you've provided amount to:
(1) Catholicism is intentionally churning out anti-religious zealots, cannibalizing their own Catholic population in order to poison the religious well for all.
(2) Catholicism is wrong and stupid.
Is it possible not to construe these options as biased?
How about these other hypotheses:
(3) There is no effect of Catholicism; I don't perceive any variability in anti-religious zealotry between ex-Catholics or ex-members of other religions.
(4) Catholic education has been underfunded and under-researched, resulting in a failure to adapt to aggregate changes in cultural needs for religious instruction.
(5) The overall impacts of commitment to Catholicism on one's life are greater than in other religious traditions, requiring a more comprehensive lifetime sacrifice (of time, energy, resources, devotion, etc.), so that people who react negatively to the faith tend to hold greater resentment toward religion than other faiths, whose members may not have perceived themselves to have wagered as much of their lives on false premises.
These are just a few ideas. There's no need to insert them in your survey. I don't think surveys are fit to answer the questions you're trying to answer.
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1. No. Mass was in latin. Couldn't understand a word. Wanted to be up the bush chasing frogs. Used to ogle the Mitchell girls. Blonde hair...phwoar!
2. I used to meet up with me mates sometimes but I didn't make any friends through the religious activities.
3. Yeah a few were. Lot of people attended mass. I can still remember the part where the Priest lifted the chalice and muttered some incantation and I knew the end was about 15 mins away! Talk about child abuse!
Thanks for the opp to talk 'bout myself.
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[ - ] Name 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 21, 2023 06:46:28 ago (+0/-0)
Wait a minute, how old are you? They stomped that stuff almost out of existence 50 years ago. I guess you stopped participating before they made the priest face the other direction.
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that explains sloppy and disorganized people.
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Sorta like a shepard watching a flock who refuses to intervene when a wolf attacks it and who only has a string fence to keep the flock inside their area of influence.
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Any group that acquires some societal power will have bad actors that get inducted into it that use it for their own nefarious purposes. In this case the molestation. Now, if the church made a example with massive repercussions of the priests who abuse children that would be commendable. But sadly it typically just gets sweep under the rug, denied or worse they move the priest in question to a different area so as to allow the cycle of abuse to occur in other areas(which make it worse obviously).
I don't have enough info to comment on this tim guy.
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If it does not do so, then it is going to forever be meet with scorn and ridicule. With the followers who felt betrayed from within being the most adamant towards its destruction.
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The four virtues of Stoicism is wisdom, courage, temperance/moderation, and justice. Christianity also borrows a lot from the most prevalent philosophical basis of stoic writings, as it does from Western Germanic and Celtic mythology and symbolism to make the jew mind poison (christianity) more palatable.
Feel free to contribute to v/Stoicism. I might add more to it within the next few weeks.
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Follow White philosophy, not sand nigger psyops my White brother.