Th guy is an absolute asshole to say the least. On the other hand i feel like my gf is taking what he said wayyyy too seriously. Anyways, my pastor mentioned a few things today that made me cringe inside, like badly.
I come from a very broken family. Mom was a drug addict, alcoholic, verbally and physically abusive piece of trash. My dad was the enabling type who would watch and blame me in the process because clearly im always to blame. We got blamed for everything: financial problems, marital problems, etc. My mom literally molested one of our sisters because she was bored. So the topic came up of honoring parents and that i need to honor them at all cost. I started getting very irritated at the guy, because it's one thing to honor and forgive, its another to hold yourself directly in the line of fire to prove a point.
The second thing is he equated me drinking a beer here and there or being emotional vulnerable due to the abuse i had to endure to being some kind of drunk, mentally deficient suicidal maniac. I did NOT appreciate him saying this in front of my gf, and its very clear he came into this meeting with an agenda to destroy us. He pretty much hinted i was some kind of drunk, even though I barely touch the stuff. At the time I may have had a sampler here and there, and that was about it. Followed usually by very long (multiple months at a time) periods of no drinking at all.
Anyways, he is now my ex pastor for all the damage he did, and his views. If his views are normalized across most churches, which i think they are, then its no wonder institutional churches are losing so many members. And my gf is very upset over what she heard.
Honoring your abusive wicked parents doesn't obligate you or any child to tolerate the wickedness of their parents or endure their abuse. It means you must strive to accept, overcome, and understand the pain and trauma of that abuse to be a better person, so you don't live a life of wickedness yourself or impart that abuse upon your future children.
Additionally, forgiving them doesn't oblige you to leave yourself exposed to receive more abuse from them either. Caring about someone doesn't necessarily require that you care for them. You can advocate on behalf of your parents, without being their care giver.
If your pastor isn't communicating these subtle distinctions in his sermons or in discussions then he's likely not smart enough to consider many other abstract concepts in other situations of discussion and must be kept at arms length. He may not be grievously malformed in his faith, but in fact simply a mid-wit, so profoundly stupid that the phrase don't talk to the police requires such advice include a lengthy explanation as provided in the video link, because he's the sort of bumbling moron who would blanket apply that phrase to any circumstances in which he might have to deal with police, so as calling 911.
Me:: “jesus turned water into wine to improve morale. I would say thats an endorsement”
Mother:: “the water wasnt safe to drink back then”
Me: “he could have made the water safe if people drinking water was a priority”
Its not that hard to run circles around these people. Also keep a quote about false prophets in the back of your mind incase you need to slap him down.
Going to a pastor for couples counseling was retarded in the first place. The right answer is always "do what the Bible said" you don't need some man to act as judge over a situation he'll never fully comprehend. The best Baptist preachers don't do couples counseling they tell you the sermon is the counseling, the Bible is the counseling.
The thing about old-timey Baptists is they really stick to their guns and never give an inch which is great until one gets taught wrong and wont budge no matter how obviously unbiblical they doctrine is or they have to venture into specifics the Bible doesn't directly address, if a pastor thinks he ought to have more spiritual influence over your woman than you do he's a garbage pastor and doesn't understand the Bible.
I would probably never go to a church that wasn't baptist but 90% of the ones that call themselves baptists are garbage. A lot of even the better ones the pastor gets a big ego and makes himself a little pope in his own mind and will have a lot of people fawning over him and taking his word as law. In fact I don't really think the modern setup of one guy always does all the teaching and preaching is even Biblical. It turns churches into personality cults and encourages that ego I talked about.
I think that if you have truly garbage parents that you have to cut out of your life the best you can do to honor them is sometimes just not running them down to everyone when there's no benefit or need to do so. Sometimes you may have a good reason to explain how they were of course but honestly they are just people like the rest of us and there are probably reasons they ended up like that, if we're supposed to pray for our enemies we should prob also pray for bad parents and try to forgive in our hearts, which doesn't mean you have to have them in your life if they are still "toxic" or whatever word I'm allowed to use that won't get me told to go back to reddit, but pray for them and try not to be bitter, which is easier said than done I know from experience.
[ - ] Acrophonic [op] 1 point 1.9 yearsJul 18, 2023 11:38:35 ago (+1/-0)
He had major issues, some of which I ended up causing. I had left as a member many years ago, and in his anger/bout of rage, a bunch of other people also left. In this case he specifically ignored the book of Mathew, instead ignoring some church problems, and those problems turned violent. In their disgust, a lot of church members left, and when I visited again, I could barely recognize anyone there. All the big, donor backing families just left
That's the thing, even back when i was a member, i didn't drink that much. The problem is my church equated having a glass of wine or beer here and there to being a full on alcoholic wino
Catholic priests right now are trained monkeys that say Christianity is a “primitive” religion and that the jews have a more stable and developed religion and that we should be thankful for them.
So, my guess is Catholicism.
Here is a video about jews if you and your gf are bored of the usual netflix garbage:
Baptist church, I always wondered why people hate the baptists so much, and I can kinda understand it. Anyways, my gf is panicking over what he said as we speak, which isn't surprising. If it was the other way around, probably would laugh about it later. She's a very emotional driven person, so 10 people could say great things about me, but she'll harp on the one person who said something negative. I would be impressed if there's a person out there that exists that hasn't in some way, pissed somebody else off, so i think she's holding me to an insanely high standard as it is.
Talk shit about the kneeling all you want but when you drove by the church at 11 catholics were fit af compared to the fat ass baptists waddling out of their church.
And why do they have those luncheons and breakfast parties? I don't know about all of the baptist churches but wow it's like 2ce a week at my mom's church. Not counting birthdays and womens fellowship whatever that is. They sure aren't friends they hate each other all in the name of God.
[ + ] carnold03
[ - ] carnold03 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 20, 2023 08:05:34 ago (+0/-0)*
Additionally, forgiving them doesn't oblige you to leave yourself exposed to receive more abuse from them either. Caring about someone doesn't necessarily require that you care for them. You can advocate on behalf of your parents, without being their care giver.
If your pastor isn't communicating these subtle distinctions in his sermons or in discussions then he's likely not smart enough to consider many other abstract concepts in other situations of discussion and must be kept at arms length. He may not be grievously malformed in his faith, but in fact simply a mid-wit, so profoundly stupid that the phrase don't talk to the police requires such advice include a lengthy explanation as provided in the video link, because he's the sort of bumbling moron who would blanket apply that phrase to any circumstances in which he might have to deal with police, so as calling 911.
[ + ] usedoilanalysis
[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 18, 2023 06:39:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Niggly_Puff
[ - ] Niggly_Puff 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 17, 2023 18:51:38 ago (+1/-1)
Surprised pikachu face when jewed
[ + ] StealthNinjaTaliban
[ - ] StealthNinjaTaliban 3 points 1.9 yearsJul 17, 2023 17:52:27 ago (+3/-0)
Mother:: “the water wasnt safe to drink back then”
Me: “he could have made the water safe if people drinking water was a priority”
Its not that hard to run circles around these people. Also keep a quote about false prophets in the back of your mind incase you need to slap him down.
[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 2 points 1.9 yearsJul 17, 2023 17:20:00 ago (+2/-0)*
The thing about old-timey Baptists is they really stick to their guns and never give an inch which is great until one gets taught wrong and wont budge no matter how obviously unbiblical they doctrine is or they have to venture into specifics the Bible doesn't directly address, if a pastor thinks he ought to have more spiritual influence over your woman than you do he's a garbage pastor and doesn't understand the Bible.
I would probably never go to a church that wasn't baptist but 90% of the ones that call themselves baptists are garbage. A lot of even the better ones the pastor gets a big ego and makes himself a little pope in his own mind and will have a lot of people fawning over him and taking his word as law. In fact I don't really think the modern setup of one guy always does all the teaching and preaching is even Biblical. It turns churches into personality cults and encourages that ego I talked about.
I think that if you have truly garbage parents that you have to cut out of your life the best you can do to honor them is sometimes just not running them down to everyone when there's no benefit or need to do so. Sometimes you may have a good reason to explain how they were of course but honestly they are just people like the rest of us and there are probably reasons they ended up like that, if we're supposed to pray for our enemies we should prob also pray for bad parents and try to forgive in our hearts, which doesn't mean you have to have them in your life if they are still "toxic" or whatever word I'm allowed to use that won't get me told to go back to reddit, but pray for them and try not to be bitter, which is easier said than done I know from experience.
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[ + ] Acrophonic
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[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo -3 points 1.9 yearsJul 17, 2023 14:26:52 ago (+3/-6)
All Christian denominations are Jewish denominations that are designed to enslave Whites.
Put (((Jesus))) and (((Christianity))) away and try on White Nationalism for a while.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 4 points 1.9 yearsJul 17, 2023 14:23:52 ago (+4/-0)
So, my guess is Catholicism.
Here is a video about jews if you and your gf are bored of the usual netflix garbage:
Https://files.catbox.moe/gj93i5.mp4
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[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 1.9 yearsJul 17, 2023 14:28:37 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 1.9 yearsJul 17, 2023 15:19:01 ago (+2/-0)
And why do they have those luncheons and breakfast parties? I don't know about all of the baptist churches but wow it's like 2ce a week at my mom's church. Not counting birthdays and womens fellowship whatever that is. They sure aren't friends they hate each other all in the name of God.