He was preaching and he mentioned something that both me and my gf were repulsed by. He said since all authority is founded by God, that we all need to shut up and listen to the government: the same government that forced COVID down our throats, lies about everything, uses propaganda against its own people. Part of me wonders if he got paid off or was given a big break to spout this horse crap.
Part of me wonders if he's compromised or was given a bag of cash to spout this dogma
old, new, you can always walk out. and when you walk out, your money goes with you. Thats the strongest counter argument you can make to the shit spewed from any pulpit
I returned to Christ about eight years ago, and I began looking for Christian community. I couldn't find a church of any kind that didn't broadcast how "open" and "tolerant" they were. I decided then to be unchurched, because I knew the churches around me were completely infiltrated by jew poison.
Good for you for noticing what the pastor was actually saying.
What is the problem with SSPX? The Society was reported to have perpetuated the Jewish deicide and Jewish world domination plot canards in its official newsletters and on several of its international websites (although the offending websites have been removed since the controversy surrounding the bishops' reinstatement).
You don't need to join a satanic anti-Christian sect to be aware of the jews. jews are literally discussed in the Christian bible.
Americans wren't church going until the mid 1800's They had those giant b#Bibles in every house, and a family hierarchy built around that.
Bible study groups might be a good community to form yourself, especially with the translations being so avaivable on the internet.
At some point the theological colleges got all screwed up and substituted psychology for spirit and soul.
The same way jews insert non profits in between you and government Marxist style, a lot of church leaders insert themselves in between Christians and their direct relationship to God.
[ - ] drhitler 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:11:46 ago (+1/-0)*
make your own church and real church is a large wooden cross in the ground and some simple wooden benches outside in nature, then you buy a bus and start going out into the community on Sunday and helping someway, clean up some public areas etc etc maybe people seeing these areas clean will spark them into taking more pride in their community.
Who cares what saul was. The words of Christ aren't owned by him or anyone else.
Christ did not like the jews or what their religion made them. He said they are the synagogue of satan, because they are the synagogue of Satan. We know that by their own behaviour.
The words of Christ aren't owned by him or anyone else.
There was no stenographer recording the words of Jebus. The earliest written records of (((Christianity))) are the letters from Saul the Pharisee he wrote to the gentile churches that he founded, and make up a major portion of the (((New Testament))). The gospels came later. Rabbi Jebus is a sock puppet.
Actually this is not true. While the earliest manuscripts we have are Paul's writings, both Peter and Paul quoted verbatim portions of Mark/Matthews gospel. There is debate regarding which of these is the first, and I lean towards the Mark side for various reasons,but regardless, they definitely were in circulation prior to Paul's writings, even if we have have not found the manuscripts.
So Paul's letters are dated around 50-67 AD. The book of Luke is dated from around 80 traditionally. However, it's an interesting note. The line that Paul uses here is an amalgam of an old testament passage with an ending that is directly attributed to Jesus. The only known text to contain this is Luke. So this leads to an interesting question. Did Paul quoted Luke, or did Luke quote material that Paul had access to? Given this knowledge, it's reasonable to assume that other gospel pieces would exist as well Pre-Paul. Most noteworthy is Mark. The earliest Mark manuscript piece is from the dead sea scrolls, dated at 68AD. However these scrolls were hidden just prior to the Jewish temple destruction in 70ad, and were obviously widely enough spread that they had copies to stash away from the massacre. We know for a fact that Like quoted from Mark/Matthew (This gets hazy for other reasons), so this means that, in addition to a firm 68AD dating, when Luke was pulling sources for his gospel, these gospels existed. If Paul was citing a Jesus quote in a letter from the mid 50s, it's reasonable to assume that if Luke has not been written yet, he at least was pulling from another document we have not found. It's also reasonable to assume that, if we found a Mark manuscript from 68AD, it would have existed well before that as well. The language of both Mark, Matthew, Luke, and Paul all seem to indicate that it was written prior to Paul's death and prior to the Jewish temples fall. Thus, we can conclude that Mark, or a variation of the text, existed prior to Paul's death at the very least, and was drawn upon enough to be known scripture because Paul was quoting to other believers.
"One easy answer is to say that the Gospel of Luke copied from St Paul. That would explain why the saying appears in both books, but it doesn’t at all explain why Paul would quote this saying as something contained in scripture."
The simple explanation is Saul took something from Hebrew scripture, then added on his own sentence in plain vernacular. You notice how different in tone the two sentences are?
The earliest Mark manuscript piece is from the dead sea scrolls, dated at 68AD.
I'm gonna go with non-Pauline authorship. There is no chance that Paul is referring to any of the works, which would later be included in the New Testament, as Scripture during his lifetime. There's just no way. If this statement about the laborer and his wages originates in Luke, then I'd say that's catapulting 1 Timothy well into the future.
As far as I can tell, Paul showcases a familiarity with the teachings and sayings of Jesus that do appear in Mark and Matthew, but this is almost certainly not from an awareness of a circulating Markan or Matthean textual tradition, and it is certainly not from anything Paul would be calling Scripture (theopneustos) in his own lifetime. For Paul and his contemporaries, Scripture was the Old Testament, and it simply was the prooftext for Jesus's identity and salvific sacrifice. Paul probably became aware of the things in his writings which are similar to those found in Mark and Matthew, not from some other source document, but from close personal contact with Luke, Mark, Peter and James.
I don't think Christians are barking up the right tree to deny that Paul was the originator of the early written Christian tradition. I think the way the Christian needs to go here is to demand adequate evidence from the skeptic that this testimony by Paul was inauthentic or dishonest, i.e., that Paul was instigating a conspiracy against Gentiles. That seems to be something like Chrimony's claim. That's the controversial claim here, in fact, so the burden of proof (or at least of giving a reasonable case) falls on Chrimony and the others who agree with him. Other than Paul having a Pharisaic origin by birthright, what evidence do you have to support he instigated a conspiracy against the Gentiles, esp. one with a view to controlling the developed world with a false religion that would benefit the Jews?
Of course you are. You desperately want it to be true.
There is no chance that Paul is referring to any of the works, which would later be included in the New Testament, as Scripture during his lifetime.
A cult leader lie about something that is in scripture? No way!!
But him ad libbing is just one possibility. Since we don't actually have the original letters from Saul, what's taken as a quote from scripture could just be a mistake by scribes, as in Saul quotes a line of scripture, then adds his own plain text version, but the scribes mark it all as quoted scripture.
You're trying to take a SINGLE LINE with obvious alternative interpretations, and resting your entire case on that meaning the gospels came first. If the gospels were around, and Saul had access to them, he'd be referring to them left and right, and yet while he routinely references the Hebrew scriptures, he makes no references to the gospels or what Jebus purportedly said -- outside of this one strained case you have referenced so far. That makes no sense.
Occam's razor says Saul came first, and the gospels later.
I think the way the Christian needs to go here is to demand adequate evidence from the skeptic that this testimony by Paul was inauthentic or dishonest, i.e., that Paul was instigating a conspiracy against Gentiles.
I don't have to prove a conspiracy. I just state the fact that Saul the Pharisee brought Rabbi Jebus to the gentiles, converting them to the god of Israel, Yahweh, and away from their own gods. Just stating this fact gets me called a kike by Christcucks.
I can’t get over people being jew aware, but worship the god of israel. They actually think jews just happened to gain global power by pure chance.
Jews wanted nations to be kosher and livable for them, so Christianity was introduced to the gentiles. White gentiles spread this religion to all races around the planet so that the jewish homeland would be recognized by everyone.
No moron, Christianity was the original abrahamic religion, kikes got jealous of Whites and the blessings bestowed on them so they attempted to subvert both the religion and the racial group
Kikes aren't "jews" stop calling them that, that's why you can't wrap your tiny head around how this works.
"The people of israel" are White people, if you use the term properly
kikes are just identity thieves who have overlayed their own "family history" onto our stories
Of course kikes didn't gain power "by chance" it's a subversive generational campaign of infiltration.
"Catholic religion" is what you are referring to, not "Christianity" as a whole
if "Christianity" as a whole was "useful to the kike" then the Amish lifestyle would be promoted by them, instead the last thing kikes want are more White "Amish" people
Fun fact, the amish are all anti kike, they just don't openly talk about it outside of their community (I live near one) they all despise kikes
But you know...keep believing kike narratives created before you were alive without diving into them and understanding they were created by kikes to trick people like you
When you start to worship Christ, you cease to be a Pharisee. Is your claim that Paul was just lying to everyone about what he believed? Is your claim that Paul faked his Christianity as he conspired to create a false religion for the goyim? That's a very tall order. I noticed you ask for sources in a comment below. I don't care too much about sources. If you have some, great, but I'd just like to hear reasons. Make a case for why you think these things were true about Paul. I'm interested to see if you have any reasons at all. He was martyred for his actions, so that's something you'll have to address.
See the works of rober livingstone. He makes a great case for paul actually just being a spy for the house of herrod. Pretty jaw dropping stuff. Taking the bible at face value is what a sheep would do. GOD DOESNT HAVE HANDS SO HE DOESNT WRITE BOOKS. Men do. And men lie. Investigate EVERYTHING. Dont be a sheep.
saul the pharisee was then commisioned by the king and the house of herod to infilrate the circle of christ. He was a lifelong piece of shit, and a SPY. (not 100% sure on that, but check out the historian Robert Livingstone if want to know more)
^^^kike ignoring the post and inserting his own narrative
kike filth doesn't want people believing in Jesus because jesus told us to wage ethnic genocidal war on kike filth...why do you have a problem with a holy crusade against the kikes chrimony?
^^^kike ignoring the post and inserting his own narrative
^^^ Worshiper of Rabbi Jebus and Yahweh, follower of the teachings of Saul the Pharisee, calls me a kike. Ok, Christcuck.
kike filth doesn't want people believing in Jesus because jesus told us to wage ethnic genocidal war on kike filth
Christcuck makes up his Jebus religion to ease his cognitive dissonance. Rabbi Jebus told you not to resist evil and wait for your reward in (((Heaven))).
Tell him to define authority, and ask him if you get up and force him to obey you with threat of violence, if god has “founded” your authority and he should submit to you.
Then ask him why god went out of his way to found Lenin in to authority to massacre 60 million Christian’s.
Anyone with a 501(c)3 status has made a big compromise. If those tax deductions were dropped, I wonder how regular, high-dollar donors would change their giving patterns.
Churches have become good for nothing other than community. Unfortunately. But thats a really good purpose. Most of them are just "cashing in". When you find a real church, that actually knows what theyre doing and knows the evil of the government, they get waco'd it seems. But let's be real here. The main thing that makes church repulsive to most people is the fact that its BORING AS SHIT. Great place to find a wife, not such a great place to learn about christianity anymore. Thats better done on youtube at this point. Just my opinion.
I understand, reason I am not a Church attendee any longer. Personal experiences with petty bullshit that shows the leaders true colors.
The boring as hell aspect also puts me to sleep. Seminaries got these "leaders" using awful power point presentation lessons serving warm milk for their NPC followers.
Pastor Anderson has been my best experiences watching Love240s links as he at least isn't afraid of calling out the kikes and faggots on a regular basis.
The community aspect is still the best but you'll have to have good luck if there's actually any nearby.
Can't speak to your dude OP. I once confessed after a service. The priest had asked if anyone had anything they needed to discuss to come up to him afterwards and have that conversation. So I did. We rarely saw men of god so I jumped at the chance. I questioned wanting to participate in mass murder to a military priest. I simply asked what the bibles take on that was, that is, was it OK to kill innocent women, children...dogs and goldfish even, on a supremely mass scale like we were set and training to do. I was led to believe that it would be confidential. It wasn't. Was called in to the commanders and had my security clearance pulled the next day.
damn u must have been young to make a mistake like that... im gonna guess 22 i only say bc i too learned a LOT the hard way n early 20s about life and "confidentiality"
Same happened to me. I was with my whole family. Pastor said some liberal crap. I stood up and said “this is a bunch of shit!” in front of everyone and the old ladies and I walked out. Never went back. My family was embarrassed but you gotta be like Stephen in the Bible sometime
9 times out of 10, I don't think these people need to be paid to say these things. The brainwashing just works, and they're trying to project it onto you. Leave; he might talk about transplanting niggers and jews into the area next.
Pastors are total shills generally. Try going to an orthodox church. The closer your Bible is to the old orthodox byzantine texts the better. Leave that church and find a new one. And yes church's often get involved in programs where they get funding from zionists for shilling for a certain bible version (like Scofield bible).
Have you talked with him or elders about this? If it's a unanimous sentiment and they're not open to listening to proper doctrine of Romans 13, it sounds like it may be time to find a new church.
[ - ] 3Whuurs 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:39:17 ago (+2/-1)
You underestimate the willingness for self deception in a mind that’s inverted the grasp on its own critical thinking process. He absolutely believes it, because he’s chosen not to know better.
You underestimate the willingness for self deception in a mind that’s inverted the grasp on its own critical thinking process. He absolutely believes it, because he’s chosen not to know better.
Quoted for truth. If only the Christcucks had any self-awareness.
His church is being monitored. They were merely decent enough to let him know. It's no different from what they did in Poland when they allowed the church to continue existing despite the Communist control.
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation." - Rom 13:1-2
It's complicated.
On one hand we have this direction to follow government (basically: don't be an anarchist, pay your taxes, etc.). On the other hand we have concepts of conscience. There are genuine moral dilemmas. E.g. If the government asked you to swear an oath, would a Christian be obligated? Or by Mat 5 and James 5 should a Christian decline to make an oath?
Many governments have provisions for religious accomodation, and so you will usually find that the government is obligated by its own structure to accept a solemn affirmation in lieu of an oath. Advocating for a religious accomodation is not a "resistance" because it is inherently part of the dispute process within the governing processes. We see evidence of different religious leaders in scripture resisting injust requests or judgements, like Jesus evading being stoned or Paul refusing to bribe the Roman politician according to custom. It is your right, even by Biblical standards, to follow your conscience by and do what you know by faith to be right.
Speaking strictly from a Canadian perspective, many of these jab policies were not actually manditory, and many of them gave exemption criteria including religious accomodation. The system just happened to try to quash any use of these exemptions, and yes, evening with exemption you would face discrimination and denial of services. It may have even been the case that many of these organizations were coersive and threatened dismissal from work, jail time for insubbordination, or dishonorable discharge from military service. These were all evils laid against us that we had to suffer through as a result of following our faith. Things like the "cotton swab lobotomy" nasal testing, the constant ridicule, threats of being thrown in gulags, fear of being unemployed and denied EI support, etc. God provides. Sometimes we have to walk the hard path, but God gets us through. If you made it through the gauntlet while the heat was on, God bless.
I don't agree with your preacher, OP, but I can understand where his perception comes from. Maybe it was right for him in particular to get the jab and follow every instruction without considering legal options and accomodation remedies within the system. But that is not to say that simply because a governing party has a preference for your choices that they would deny you the right and abilty within the legal system to pursue satisfaction in court. The governing bodies are beholden to the legal process. If his faith leads him to drink poison or get jabbed, that's his journey. But he misunderstands scripture if he believes that the mere whim or preference of a governing official is the final say in the matter. The instructions in Romans 13 are more nuanced than one might think by a quick cursory read-through.
Have faith, friend! We all face trials and hardships. But our God-guided faith will lead us down the right path.
Or, maybe jews don't want you to exceed your usefulness to them. So, they invented a slave morality which shames you if you try to understand a reality which is counter to their dogmas.
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:30:32 ago (+3/-2)*
I believe our ancestors created stories about our White Gods because the narrative was useful to their survival. This selective process encoded the Gods of our ancestors into our DNA. It's what separates us from the lesser races. It's why we can build civilizations, and nobody else can.
It's for this reason that Heroic Epics are important. But we should be wary of Heroic epics from foreign nations which weaken and enslave us.
Our purpose as Whites is to create a future race of Ubermensch and destroy the Gods at Ragnarok and exceed them. The Jews want you to believe your purpose is to serve a Jew-God, and only a Jew-God, for all eternity.
Which ideological framework is better goal for the White race? The one where we are enslaved? Or the one where we are empowered?
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[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 18, 2023 01:09:38 ago (+0/-0)
So no need to leave.
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 15 points 1.2 yearsJul 16, 2023 23:55:00 ago (+15/-0)
Good for you for noticing what the pastor was actually saying.
[ + ] KeepPoal4fags
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[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 4 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:09:01 ago (+4/-0)
The Society was reported to have perpetuated the Jewish deicide and Jewish world domination plot canards in its official newsletters and on several of its international websites (although the offending websites have been removed since the controversy surrounding the bishops' reinstatement).
You don't need to join a satanic anti-Christian sect to be aware of the jews. jews are literally discussed in the Christian bible.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 12:15:21 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:45:19 ago (+2/-0)
Bible study groups might be a good community to form yourself, especially with the translations being so avaivable on the internet.
At some point the theological colleges got all screwed up and substituted psychology for spirit and soul.
The same way jews insert non profits in between you and government Marxist style, a lot of church leaders insert themselves in between Christians and their direct relationship to God.
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[ - ] drhitler 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:11:46 ago (+1/-0)*
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[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:10:49 ago (+7/-7)
Christianity among the gentiles was literally founded by Saul the Pharisee. You worship Yahweh, the god of Israel.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 4 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:48:36 ago (+7/-3)
Christ did not like the jews or what their religion made them. He said they are the synagogue of satan, because they are the synagogue of Satan. We know that by their own behaviour.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -3 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:52:37 ago (+4/-7)
There was no stenographer recording the words of Jebus. The earliest written records of (((Christianity))) are the letters from Saul the Pharisee he wrote to the gentile churches that he founded, and make up a major portion of the (((New Testament))). The gospels came later. Rabbi Jebus is a sock puppet.
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[ - ] froggy 5 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 07:11:48 ago (+6/-1)
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[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -1 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 08:33:31 ago (+1/-2)
Cite your sources. And why do you think it's not the other way around?
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[ + ] froggy
[ - ] froggy 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 09:24:46 ago (+0/-0)
http://www.rightreason.org/2015/paul-quoted-luke/
So Paul's letters are dated around 50-67 AD. The book of Luke is dated from around 80 traditionally. However, it's an interesting note. The line that Paul uses here is an amalgam of an old testament passage with an ending that is directly attributed to Jesus. The only known text to contain this is Luke. So this leads to an interesting question. Did Paul quoted Luke, or did Luke quote material that Paul had access to? Given this knowledge, it's reasonable to assume that other gospel pieces would exist as well Pre-Paul. Most noteworthy is Mark. The earliest Mark manuscript piece is from the dead sea scrolls, dated at 68AD. However these scrolls were hidden just prior to the Jewish temple destruction in 70ad, and were obviously widely enough spread that they had copies to stash away from the massacre. We know for a fact that Like quoted from Mark/Matthew (This gets hazy for other reasons), so this means that, in addition to a firm 68AD dating, when Luke was pulling sources for his gospel, these gospels existed. If Paul was citing a Jesus quote in a letter from the mid 50s, it's reasonable to assume that if Luke has not been written yet, he at least was pulling from another document we have not found. It's also reasonable to assume that, if we found a Mark manuscript from 68AD, it would have existed well before that as well. The language of both Mark, Matthew, Luke, and Paul all seem to indicate that it was written prior to Paul's death and prior to the Jewish temples fall. Thus, we can conclude that Mark, or a variation of the text, existed prior to Paul's death at the very least, and was drawn upon enough to be known scripture because Paul was quoting to other believers.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 09:45:00 ago (+1/-3)
Luke copied from Saul. Easy.
His excuse as to why this isn't the case:
"One easy answer is to say that the Gospel of Luke copied from St Paul. That would explain why the saying appears in both books, but it doesn’t at all explain why Paul would quote this saying as something contained in scripture."
The simple explanation is Saul took something from Hebrew scripture, then added on his own sentence in plain vernacular. You notice how different in tone the two sentences are?
I'm going to need a source for this.
[ + ] AryanPrime
[ - ] AryanPrime 3 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 11:50:35 ago (+3/-0)
Chrimony is clearly an anti Christian kike
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 10:25:05 ago (+0/-0)
As far as I can tell, Paul showcases a familiarity with the teachings and sayings of Jesus that do appear in Mark and Matthew, but this is almost certainly not from an awareness of a circulating Markan or Matthean textual tradition, and it is certainly not from anything Paul would be calling Scripture (theopneustos) in his own lifetime. For Paul and his contemporaries, Scripture was the Old Testament, and it simply was the prooftext for Jesus's identity and salvific sacrifice. Paul probably became aware of the things in his writings which are similar to those found in Mark and Matthew, not from some other source document, but from close personal contact with Luke, Mark, Peter and James.
I don't think Christians are barking up the right tree to deny that Paul was the originator of the early written Christian tradition. I think the way the Christian needs to go here is to demand adequate evidence from the skeptic that this testimony by Paul was inauthentic or dishonest, i.e., that Paul was instigating a conspiracy against Gentiles. That seems to be something like Chrimony's claim. That's the controversial claim here, in fact, so the burden of proof (or at least of giving a reasonable case) falls on Chrimony and the others who agree with him. Other than Paul having a Pharisaic origin by birthright, what evidence do you have to support he instigated a conspiracy against the Gentiles, esp. one with a view to controlling the developed world with a false religion that would benefit the Jews?
@froggy
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -1 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 12:40:56 ago (+0/-1)
Of course you are. You desperately want it to be true.
A cult leader lie about something that is in scripture? No way!!
But him ad libbing is just one possibility. Since we don't actually have the original letters from Saul, what's taken as a quote from scripture could just be a mistake by scribes, as in Saul quotes a line of scripture, then adds his own plain text version, but the scribes mark it all as quoted scripture.
You're trying to take a SINGLE LINE with obvious alternative interpretations, and resting your entire case on that meaning the gospels came first. If the gospels were around, and Saul had access to them, he'd be referring to them left and right, and yet while he routinely references the Hebrew scriptures, he makes no references to the gospels or what Jebus purportedly said -- outside of this one strained case you have referenced so far. That makes no sense.
Occam's razor says Saul came first, and the gospels later.
I don't have to prove a conspiracy. I just state the fact that Saul the Pharisee brought Rabbi Jebus to the gentiles, converting them to the god of Israel, Yahweh, and away from their own gods. Just stating this fact gets me called a kike by Christcucks.
[ + ] NationalSocialism
[ - ] NationalSocialism 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 03:56:33 ago (+5/-4)
Jews wanted nations to be kosher and livable for them, so Christianity was introduced to the gentiles. White gentiles spread this religion to all races around the planet so that the jewish homeland would be recognized by everyone.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 04:11:49 ago (+3/-3)
[ + ] AryanPrime
[ - ] AryanPrime 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 11:54:08 ago (+0/-0)
No moron, Christianity was the original abrahamic religion, kikes got jealous of Whites and the blessings bestowed on them so they attempted to subvert both the religion and the racial group
Kikes aren't "jews" stop calling them that, that's why you can't wrap your tiny head around how this works.
"The people of israel" are White people, if you use the term properly
kikes are just identity thieves who have overlayed their own "family history" onto our stories
Of course kikes didn't gain power "by chance" it's a subversive generational campaign of infiltration.
"Catholic religion" is what you are referring to, not "Christianity" as a whole
if "Christianity" as a whole was "useful to the kike" then the Amish lifestyle would be promoted by them, instead the last thing kikes want are more White "Amish" people
Fun fact, the amish are all anti kike, they just don't openly talk about it outside of their community (I live near one) they all despise kikes
But you know...keep believing kike narratives created before you were alive without diving into them and understanding they were created by kikes to trick people like you
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 10:02:04 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] gaperglory
[ - ] gaperglory 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 12:43:15 ago (+0/-0)
GOD DOESNT HAVE HANDS SO HE DOESNT WRITE BOOKS. Men do. And men lie. Investigate EVERYTHING. Dont be a sheep.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 13:36:43 ago (+0/-0)
So, either you're a professed atheist, or you think somebody knows *at least some truth about God. Which is the case?
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[ - ] chrimony -1 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:43:30 ago (+2/-3)
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[ - ] AryanPrime 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 11:56:18 ago (+0/-0)
kike filth doesn't want people believing in Jesus because jesus told us to wage ethnic genocidal war on kike filth...why do you have a problem with a holy crusade against the kikes chrimony?
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 12:06:07 ago (+0/-0)
^^^ Worshiper of Rabbi Jebus and Yahweh, follower of the teachings of Saul the Pharisee, calls me a kike. Ok, Christcuck.
Christcuck makes up his Jebus religion to ease his cognitive dissonance. Rabbi Jebus told you not to resist evil and wait for your reward in (((Heaven))).
[ + ] gaperglory
[ - ] gaperglory 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 12:38:40 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] 3Whuurs
[ - ] 3Whuurs 7 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:31:52 ago (+7/-0)
Then ask him why god went out of his way to found Lenin in to authority to massacre 60 million Christian’s.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 6 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:09:56 ago (+6/-0)
State Sponsored Religion offers tax rebates to citizens who attend such institutions confirming this submission to Man and not God.
[ + ] SilentByAssociation
[ - ] SilentByAssociation 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 03:45:23 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 06:10:05 ago (+2/-0)
We see an ineffective church that refuses to preach on the abominations of faggotry and jews while living in a land which worships such things.
You can be certain they preach many sermons on "tithing" every year but won't touch on these core family destroying topics ever.
[ + ] gaperglory
[ - ] gaperglory 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 12:33:30 ago (+0/-0)
When you find a real church, that actually knows what theyre doing and knows the evil of the government, they get waco'd it seems.
But let's be real here. The main thing that makes church repulsive to most people is the fact that its BORING AS SHIT. Great place to find a wife, not such a great place to learn about christianity anymore. Thats better done on youtube at this point. Just my opinion.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 14:03:50 ago (+0/-0)
The boring as hell aspect also puts me to sleep. Seminaries got these "leaders" using awful power point presentation lessons serving warm milk for their NPC followers.
Pastor Anderson has been my best experiences watching Love240s links as he at least isn't afraid of calling out the kikes and faggots on a regular basis.
The community aspect is still the best but you'll have to have good luck if there's actually any nearby.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 6 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 00:36:31 ago (+6/-0)*
I was "WTF just happened" there. Learned a cheap lesson. Sky Pilot indeed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw7nbl1el8s
[ + ] gaperglory
[ - ] gaperglory 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:39:10 ago (+2/-0)
i only say bc i too learned a LOT the hard way n early 20s about life and "confidentiality"
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 09:54:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 08:42:48 ago (+0/-0)
Outstanding track.
[ + ] GrayDragon
[ - ] GrayDragon 5 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:53:45 ago (+5/-0)
why did Jesus go against the authority of the Pharisees?
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:14:17 ago (+1/-3)
[ + ] con77
[ - ] con77 5 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 00:28:31 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 08:12:59 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Hugh
[ - ] Hugh 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 07:13:44 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] I_am_baal
[ - ] I_am_baal 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 05:26:42 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Trickthegoyim
[ - ] Trickthegoyim 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 04:55:58 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:42:13 ago (+5/-3)
Christianity didn't change...
You woke up.
It's time to get comfortable with the fact that you are no longer a Christian.
You are a White Nationalist.
Heil Odin! o/
[ + ] Niggly_Puff
[ - ] Niggly_Puff 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 00:41:24 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:05:49 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 2 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 00:39:38 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] aldecal
[ - ] aldecal 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 09:55:50 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] carnold03
[ - ] carnold03 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 08:44:42 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Laputois
[ - ] Laputois 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 08:07:40 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] jigganiggaboo
[ - ] jigganiggaboo 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 03:55:57 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] 3Whuurs
[ - ] 3Whuurs 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:39:17 ago (+2/-1)
He absolutely believes it, because he’s chosen not to know better.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -1 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:14:00 ago (+1/-2)
Quoted for truth. If only the Christcucks had any self-awareness.
[ + ] NukeAmerica
[ - ] NukeAmerica 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:37:17 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:09:51 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] rabidR04CH
[ - ] rabidR04CH 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 10:53:29 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 10:31:59 ago (+0/-0)
More blackpills are needed for the slave handicap mentality.
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 10:13:58 ago (+0/-0)
however, i think and that's my belief that this applies to a righteous govt.
granted the roman govt was anything but righteous with their persecutions but yeah all higher institutions are instituted by God even the evil ones.
rebellion is acceptable when the govt kills, rapes and oppress their citizens/subjects . i dont think God is okay with that.
the whole thing is kinda complicated because of the govt are not instituted by God then the omnipotent part goes out of the window
and we have scriptural basis that God raises evil govt to punish people and sometimes his own rebellious people
[ + ] The_Reunto
[ - ] The_Reunto 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 10:02:28 ago (+0/-0)
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation." - Rom 13:1-2
It's complicated.
On one hand we have this direction to follow government (basically: don't be an anarchist, pay your taxes, etc.). On the other hand we have concepts of conscience. There are genuine moral dilemmas. E.g. If the government asked you to swear an oath, would a Christian be obligated? Or by Mat 5 and James 5 should a Christian decline to make an oath?
Many governments have provisions for religious accomodation, and so you will usually find that the government is obligated by its own structure to accept a solemn affirmation in lieu of an oath. Advocating for a religious accomodation is not a "resistance" because it is inherently part of the dispute process within the governing processes. We see evidence of different religious leaders in scripture resisting injust requests or judgements, like Jesus evading being stoned or Paul refusing to bribe the Roman politician according to custom. It is your right, even by Biblical standards, to follow your conscience by and do what you know by faith to be right.
Speaking strictly from a Canadian perspective, many of these jab policies were not actually manditory, and many of them gave exemption criteria including religious accomodation. The system just happened to try to quash any use of these exemptions, and yes, evening with exemption you would face discrimination and denial of services. It may have even been the case that many of these organizations were coersive and threatened dismissal from work, jail time for insubbordination, or dishonorable discharge from military service. These were all evils laid against us that we had to suffer through as a result of following our faith. Things like the "cotton swab lobotomy" nasal testing, the constant ridicule, threats of being thrown in gulags, fear of being unemployed and denied EI support, etc. God provides. Sometimes we have to walk the hard path, but God gets us through. If you made it through the gauntlet while the heat was on, God bless.
I don't agree with your preacher, OP, but I can understand where his perception comes from. Maybe it was right for him in particular to get the jab and follow every instruction without considering legal options and accomodation remedies within the system. But that is not to say that simply because a governing party has a preference for your choices that they would deny you the right and abilty within the legal system to pursue satisfaction in court. The governing bodies are beholden to the legal process. If his faith leads him to drink poison or get jabbed, that's his journey. But he misunderstands scripture if he believes that the mere whim or preference of a governing official is the final say in the matter. The instructions in Romans 13 are more nuanced than one might think by a quick cursory read-through.
Have faith, friend! We all face trials and hardships. But our God-guided faith will lead us down the right path.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 07:53:57 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] The_Reunto
[ - ] The_Reunto 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 10:26:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 10:45:43 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] The_Reunto
[ - ] The_Reunto 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 11:00:44 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] SilentByAssociation
[ - ] SilentByAssociation 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 03:33:59 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:14:50 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 00:55:45 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:10:48 ago (+2/-1)
I treat new discoveries as new insights into God; not reasons to doubt his existence.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 01:48:31 ago (+3/-3)
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:02:56 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:30:32 ago (+3/-2)*
This selective process encoded the Gods of our ancestors into our DNA.
It's what separates us from the lesser races.
It's why we can build civilizations, and nobody else can.
It's for this reason that Heroic Epics are important.
But we should be wary of Heroic epics from foreign nations which weaken and enslave us.
Our purpose as Whites is to create a future race of Ubermensch and destroy the Gods at Ragnarok and exceed them.
The Jews want you to believe your purpose is to serve a Jew-God, and only a Jew-God, for all eternity.
Which ideological framework is better goal for the White race? The one where we are enslaved? Or the one where we are empowered?
Heil Odin! o/
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 08:03:12 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 20, 2023 19:57:29 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] gaperglory
[ - ] gaperglory 0 points 1.2 yearsJul 17, 2023 02:45:55 ago (+0/-0)