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This guy stumbled on how to make a old V8 engine get 41 mpg. He put a small lawnmower carburator on it and added a valve AFTER it in vacuum tube to keep air to fuel mixture normal.

submitted by Crackinjokes to videos 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 08:26:24 ago (+15/-1)     (youtu.be)

https://youtu.be/FwhMz2kR4pw

This guy figured out how to make a old V8 engine get 41 mpg. He put a small lawnmower carburator on it and added a valve AFTER it in vacuum tube to keep air to fuel mixture normal.

He specialties that the higher vacuum caused by the restricted smaller carb throat makes the gas get completely atomized but the extra air added by the valve in the vacuum line keeps the mixture from being too lean.

So this system ensures all gas is atomized and thus gives better mpg.

He says it's like a vapor carburater but has better throttle response.

Now it DOES reduce top engine max power on the Dyno as he shows in a later video but you actually usually don't need as much power as many of these old v8s have on old cars to go down the road at 60 or 65 unless you're trying to tow some heavy thing.

So what you're really doing is allowing these older cars to be financially affordable to use from a gas standpoint.

So unless you're planning on using your old V8 to tow heavy objects or you're really worried about your 0 to 60 time then this is a really good solution to keep your old vehicle on the road and get much higher gas mileage so you can use it on long trips and stuff.

I can see how this would be really helpful if you had an older van that you didn't want to give up with a nice V8 engine but you just couldn't afford the 8 miles per gallon that the old carburetor gave you or the 15 mi per gallon that the rudimentary early fuel injection gave you.



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[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 2 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 09:07:47 ago (+2/-0)

Some other interesting carburetor solutions. Apparently one of the more efficient carburetors ever invented was the first carburetor that ran on the Model t ford. It just goes to show you that they actually detuned a lot of this stuff over time to make things use a lot more gas than they needed to.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/416013.html

Also www.old-carburaters.com

[ - ] Special_Prosecutor 1 point 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 17:22:30 ago (+1/-0)

So add a larger secondary carburetor circuit for wide open power. Oh, this has already been done for literally 100+ years.

Jet the primary small bore carb(s) lean, and larger secondaries rich.

In Australia they have fuel injected Lean Cruise Mode. Per the name, lean at partial throttle constant rpm flat elevation. The EPA/CARB bans the practice in USA.

Something is off with you tubers claim "smaller carb throat makes the gas get completely atomized but the extra air added by the valve in the vacuum line keeps the mixture from being too lean"

Sure, smaller orifice with higher vacuum may result in better mixing and atomizing, but if completely vaporized then it's already stoichiometric per the definition. Sucking in more air would lean out the fuel.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 14:14:35 ago (+1/-0)

good luck goin up a 1 degree incline, lol

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 10 monthsJun 29, 2023 11:56:58 ago (+0/-0)

Yes you didn't watch the video cuz clearly that's not the case in the video

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 10 monthsJun 29, 2023 12:17:43 ago (+0/-0)

I did not watch the video, because if this shit were viable it would be common knowledge

[ - ] veridic 0 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 22:46:07 ago (+0/-0)

Fuel consumption is proportional to acceleration. If you accelerate slow, you use less fuel.

You could do the same thing by putting a spring behind the gas pedal.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 10 monthsJun 29, 2023 11:57:27 ago (+0/-0)

I guess you also didn't watch the video because clearly that's not the case in the video and that is disgust. But go ahead and put a spring behind your accelerator in your old V8 engine and see if you can get 40 miles to the gallon.

[ - ] SocksOnCats 0 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 14:24:02 ago (+0/-0)

This may sound stupid, and please let me know if it’s incorrect, but on a fuel injected vehicle could you switch to smaller injectors and add a valve to the secondary air injection?

Would it do the same-ish thing?

Asking because most vehicles have FI these days.

[ - ] Special_Prosecutor 0 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 16:05:15 ago (+0/-0)

Fuel injectors operate by opening and closing at high frequency for a short duration or duty cycle. The only reason to switch to lower flow rate Injectors would be to better regulate the fuel flow rate at lower duty cycles.
It's difficult to water a plant with a fire hose in place of a garden hose.

Ie, a 600HP V8 injector might have difficulty regulating fuel down to 20HP or <300 RPM.

But, even now there are control systems that can account for low flow rate injector variability.

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 13:16:28 ago (+0/-0)

He'll end up dead real soon, if he's not already dead.

[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 12:53:14 ago (+0/-0)

So basically force the engine to use less gasoline, you don't need to choke the engine with a lawnmower carb to do the same thing.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 1 point 10 monthsJun 29, 2023 11:59:29 ago (+1/-0)

Well you have to actually find a way to get the car to use less gasoline which is not as easy as it sounds without modifying the equipment on the car which is what he's done. But additionally you also have to ensure the proper mixing of that gasoline and that seems to be the major effect of this is that he's using less gasoline but it's mixed or atomized or vaporized whatever you want to call it in a much better way so you get full power from the small amount of gasoline you use. I don't mean full power in terms of the full power of the engine because he does dyno test the engine it does lower the power of the engine. But this is the way to keep old V8 cars on the road and have them get exceptional mileage. That's what this is all about. If you want to go out and spend $60,000 for a new car and you can go out and buy a car they'll get 30 miles to the gallon and have 400 horsepower or whatever. Fine. But this is about a way to keep old v8s that typically get 8 to 15 miles per gallon on the road so that they get 40 miles per gallon.

[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 10 monthsJun 30, 2023 13:47:51 ago (+0/-0)

One way to do it, porting those old V8 heads also makes huge differences. You don't even have to take a lot of material off, just some light cleaning up, blending, and selective texturing will improve fuel mixture quality, how the air flows around the spark plugs, how it flows in and out of the cylinder.

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 0 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 12:30:19 ago (+0/-0)

It would starve for air.

[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 11:00:37 ago (+0/-0)

I'm going to revisit this when I restore an old 460 in a F350. 7mpg was shit, and it already had relatively low power due to gearing to tow horses.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 08:28:44 ago (+0/-0)

Why wouldn't you try it

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 2 points 10 monthsJun 28, 2023 09:06:23 ago (+2/-0)

Yeah it sounds good to me. Tons of people are getting rid of their old cars which have a lot of advantages because they just suck gas. But if you could make it so they got 30 or 40 miles to the gallon it would be absolutely no reason to get rid of those cars. There's so much more simple and operation and usually have so much more room inside. And the emphasis on acceleration and being able to tow heavy things is too much for most actual daily drivers