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Hello! This is Plebbitor

submitted by Plebbitor to introductions 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 15:24:59 ago (+12/-1)     (introductions)

Hello, Goats!

I was a once was a beta tester on the original Voat, and have been floating around, on and off, since then. I have had a couple of other accounts here, but for some reasons keep being locked out of my accounts.

I am mainly here to shill Free Software tech and platforms.

In this intro, let me mention Plebbit.

Plebbit is real, and the protocol is working. It is possible to post there. The clients are under active development. (If you know React JS, you should find it easy.)

Plebbit is designed to be a complete replacement for Reddit. It is decentralized, and runs on a client (which helps the network) or in a web-browser. It is a bit buggy at the moment, but will be a strong solution for Free Speech.

Please upvote, to enable my posting powers!

Web:
https://plebbitapp.eth.limo/#/

Whitepaper:
https://github.com/plebbit

Telegram:
https://t.me/plebbit


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[ - ] observation1 7 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 16:18:47 ago (+7/-0)

Decentralized is good but how does it prevent blumen and Joe from posting topless 14 year olds?

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] -1 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 18:05:37 ago (+0/-1)

There is a spam challenge. The owner of the sub can use whatever spam challenge they like. They can even grant people permission to post without a check.

[ - ] observation1 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 22:20:59 ago (+1/-0)*

But the pedophiles in the world will happily perform the challenge.

You mean like a captcha?

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] -1 points 10 monthsJun 27, 2023 02:06:39 ago (+0/-1)

Plebbit doesn't host images. Yes, there is an entirely arbitrary capture that can be chosen by the Sub's moderator.

[ - ] observation1 1 point 10 monthsJun 27, 2023 02:49:07 ago (+1/-0)*

Differentiating between Host/ and link to may be the difference in law but no experiential difference.

I think this needs a trust system to work long term.

My 2 copper pennies.

There are 3 literal pedophiles that post here and have nearly fucked it up 8x. One comes back with an alternating vpn and a dozen different users. Wish I was kidding.

Also there are just general fuck-ups who have nothing else to do that hoard the stage if given free reign to do so. Meaning 1% embezzle 90% of attention. The captchas might help or might even make it worse because it rewards the insane who don't value their time in the first place.

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] 0 points 10 monthsJun 27, 2023 03:27:41 ago (+1/-1)

Yes, it is a problem. I think people do it because some don't want Free Speech platforms, so they do what they can to bring them into disrepute or have them banned for content. Since adversaries like this are around, it requires vigilance and support from the community to patrol what is posted.

How does Catbox manage to accomplish this?

[ - ] observation1 0 points 10 monthsJun 27, 2023 10:17:07 ago (+0/-0)

Not sure how they do it.

I suspect AI can be written to detect with no human interaction.

And you're spot on. There will be some who will act to subvert free speech.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 10 monthsJun 27, 2023 17:47:50 ago (+1/-0)

faggit

[ - ] germ22 3 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 16:29:13 ago (+3/-0)

Yet ANOTHER place. The idea is great, but after voat.co shut down, the community got broke up into too many small groups. It would be great if we could all reunite under one place.
It's frustrating to keep signing up on a new site , then just to see that place fizzle out. I wish i know a solution to this.

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 16:42:19 ago (+3/-2)

The solution is to not keep repeating the same mistake: moving from one centralized http platform to another. Gab seems to be doing brilliantly at the moment, but it is centralized and, though it has its own infrastructure, it suffers from the same weakeness. I hope it doesn't go down the drain like the rest of them but it is best to be prudent and find some place with a theoretically strong platform.

I hope you pop in to Plebbit from time-to-time to see how it is progressing and try making a post occasionally. It is a based community.

[ - ] germ22 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 16:45:19 ago (+1/-0)

how many users are signed up already? And how many are online on average?

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] 0 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 17:00:27 ago (+1/-1)

The figures are low. Most people don't realize that the Plebbit protocol is working already and now work is on tweaking it to make it faster.

Plebbit hasn't really tried to launch yet. The community is waiting for the MVP (Minimal Viable Product) client to be released. So far, there are only a few communities/subs on Plebbit. More would be useful for testing. (It is a drag that there was a sort of landgrab on .eth names, as it is difficult to find a name for a community which hasn't already been bought.)

This place is far more active. Somebody made a based anti-Plebbit, FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) website, if you are curious. It is a pretty cool website!

https://plebbit-is-ngmi.netlify.app/

[ - ] Kozel 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 18:17:22 ago (+1/-0)

I like point #11

[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 15:50:28 ago (+3/-0)

o hi

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] 0 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 18:06:25 ago (+1/-1)

Hello! Haven't had nougat is so long...

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 19:43:34 ago (+1/-0)

It's not super great for your teeth.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 3 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 15:39:13 ago (+3/-0)

It seems to work very well. It had to do some initial address loading and that sort of thing I guess it was finding some sort of distributed Network addresses but once loaded it reloaded again fast if I came back to the website from somewhere else. Seems to have a lot of content too

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] -1 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 15:45:21 ago (+1/-2)

One of the things that people should know is that communities/subs on Plebbit are created using ENS (Ether Name System). This runs off Ethereum, so it is necessary to purchase an ENS domain to claim a community. Because Ether gas is quite expensive at the moment, that makes the process a bit costly. For example, if you wanted to create:

/p/ImaginaryCastles

You would need to buy: imaginarycastles.eth

Once purchased, you would be able to create e.g. funny.imaginarycastles.eth without charge

https://ens.domains/

[ - ] germ22 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 18:56:58 ago (+1/-0)

it cost 2 ETH? almost $4000? are you nuts?

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] 0 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 19:19:47 ago (+1/-1)

No, US$ 13.67, if you wanted to buy e.g. germ22.eth for a year. Almost half that cost is the gas for the transaction, so you might be better off claiming the domain for several years.

With that, you could create a community on Plebbit (and do other things elsewhere) with the name:

/p/germ22

People on Plebbit could post fan-art of you there, for example.

https://files.catbox.moe/er8r70.png

[ - ] germ22 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 21:02:20 ago (+1/-0)

Ok that is more reasonable. I guess that 2ETH in the site you liked is just a place holder.

[ - ] RobertJHarsh 2 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 20:46:51 ago (+2/-0)

Looks good. I have never agreed with the up/down voting system. Trash can get to the stop way too easy. The comments section should determine ranking.

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] 0 points 10 monthsJun 27, 2023 01:54:56 ago (+1/-1)

Did you prefer the client, the reddit style web-interface or the 4chan style web interface?

[ - ] observation1 2 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 17:19:50 ago (+2/-0)

Pause a video, scroll down.

All the videos start playing at the same.

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 17:27:51 ago (+2/-1)

One of the developers is already working on this. It is a bit annoying, isn't it?

You will in the future be able to remember what it was like being on Plebbit in the very early days!

[ - ] Kozel 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 18:12:34 ago (+1/-0)

the appimage works but if I go to any of your websites it says ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE

i tried a couple of browsers (including the gay one)

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] -1 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 18:34:42 ago (+0/-1)

AppImage is the way forward, better than flatpak or Snaps.

So, I think you have been trying to reach one of the http instances of Plebbit, one of these:

https://plebbitapp.eth.limo/
or
https://plebchan.eth.limo/

And then hopefully you saw something like this:

https://files.catbox.moe/nw6mlb.png
or
https://files.catbox.moe/ath7er.png

It might take a while for the page to load. Plebbit uses IPFS and it takes longer, but work is underway to make it faster.

Notice the green (or red) light next to the community. This indicates whether that community is currently online. If you are testing, try the test sub or politically incorrect.

If you didn't see anything at all, it might be because you have locked down your browser tightly. Try Tor-Browser to visit the site. That works.

If you go to the telegram site, you would probably need Telegram. (The client is Free, but Telegram uses a proprietary, centralized server and requires your phone number.)

[ - ] Kozel 1 point 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 19:19:19 ago (+1/-0)

it does load in tor

it doesn't load in any browser even ones with normie config

but it loaded in a windows vm with a hardened config

I can run/connect to ipfs-desktop fine so i doubt its firewall

what this website want to work?

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] -1 points 10 monthsJun 26, 2023 19:28:18 ago (+0/-1)

These sites load ok in standard browsers in their ordinary configuration. For example, Firefox (Mozilla) or e.g. Brave Beta (chrome based).

If you are already running IPFS, you might have an ipfs-companion browser extension running in your browser. That might be effecting it.

[ - ] Conspirologist -2 points 10 monthsJun 27, 2023 03:57:44 ago (+0/-2)

If there are no moderators, the site will be spammed by pedophiles and spamming trolls, like they are trying to do here.

[ - ] Plebbitor [op] -1 points 10 monthsJun 27, 2023 18:00:52 ago (+0/-1)

Each Community/Sub on Plebbit sets its own policies for moderation of content / spam. On Lemmy, if there is a malicious instance, you basically have to de-Federate the entire instance and lose all its communities. On Plebbit, you don't have to do blanket bans like that.