"It's flying really low. There was an explosion just now. gasp ..."
Don't think the rest needs translation.
Via:
https://nitter.net/visegrad24/status/1672545818220322817
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672545818220322817
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Previous thread here:
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Some Russians are greeting Wagner troops like liberators, bringing them food and water:
https://files.catbox.moe/d2o7q8.mp4
https://nitter.net/wartranslated/status/1672551944039145474
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672551944039145474
Others are telling them to "fuck off, before Putin blows the whole town to pieces":
https://files.catbox.moe/0hp8wj.mp4
https://nitter.net/GeromanAT/status/1672517703100235776
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1672517703100235776
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Trenches are now being dug around Moscow:
https://files.catbox.moe/9glmfv.jpg![]()
Meanwhile, Wagner is moving tanks, heavy equipment and troops towards Moscow:
https://nitter.net/Osinttechnical/status/1672550877339451392
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672550877339451392
Player 3 has entered the game:
https://files.catbox.moe/81db61.jpg![]()
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Farmer near Voronezh is in his field when fighting breaks out.
He doesn't have the good sense to run until a rocket flies past his ear (watch closely around 0:30):
https://files.catbox.moe/pciv3c.mp4
Another video of helicopters appearing to strike a fuel depot (perhaps different view of OP?):
https://files.catbox.moe/7j0ett.mp4
https://twitter.com/i/status/1672547132245438466
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Meanwhile, in Ukraine:
https://files.catbox.moe/k5m9rg.mp4
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Moscow Police is now confiscating civilian trucks and using them to block the road into Moscow:
https://files.catbox.moe/488htc.mp4
"We take their keys, and then we fuck off. After blocking the other side too, and taking their keys as well. And then we piss off out of here. Because they [Wagner] are going to be coming from the south here. And they don't shoot at civilians. But they'll fuck 'strongmen' up [as in police, army, etc]. So that's our job right now, basically. Part of counter-terrorism measures."
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 21 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 09:31:00 ago (+22/-1)
I hate this stupid movie.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -9 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 10:38:57 ago (+1/-10)
Except that wasn't happening.
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 10 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 10:55:49 ago (+10/-0)*
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/unwinnable-war-washington-endgame
First, the Egypt-Israel model cannot apply, because unlike in the Middle East, the US and its allies are co-belligerents in Ukraine. Therefore, they cannot expect Russia to accept them as anything but adversaries; the situation on the Korean Peninsula is a more relevant analogy.
Second, the US and its allies not only permitted, but actively conspired with Ukraine in undermining the previous diplomatic efforts that resulted in the Minsk Accords.
Third, this analysis presumes material military weakness and lack of morale on the part of Russia that does not appear to be in evidence. While the inabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now being recognized, the narrative of Russian military incapacity remains largely unchanged despite having been proven to be reliably wrong for the last eighteen months. While the writer recognizes that Ukraine is incapable of winning, he still doesn’t realize that the same is not true of Russia.
Fourth, there are zero indications that Russia has any interest in a diplomatic solution and a plethora of signs that Russia has absolutely no intention of letting Clown World off the hook in Ukraine or anywhere else in the world. If WWIII has, as I believe, already begun, it is not going to be averted by a belated interest in diplomacy on the part of the neoclowns.
"According to one official, the Russian defense has proven more “competent” than expected. However, the source insisted that the US is still “optimistic” that Ukraine will turn the failing operation around, and that Washington will re-evaluate the offensive next month."
The Russian focus is on the enemy forces, NOT on the terrain. Russia is doing the smart thing, weakening the opponent for as long as it takes with a style of warfare that favors Russia greatly. Why be rushed into offensive actions just because bloggers on Telegram are getting jittery, and sustain losses, when you can easily destroy your opponent from long range indefinitely, then swoop in to finish him off when he’s barely able to resist.
Not only are the NATO forces nowhere near Moscow, but they’ve essentially bounced off what has been described as “a wall of steel”, losing about one-third of their forces in the process. The historical Russian response has been to launch a counteroffensive with far more forces than had been anticipated.
This Ukrainian operational incompetence is intentional, of course. Neither the Fake Ukrainians who nominally run the Kiev regime nor the US-based neoclowns who give them their orders have any interest in sparing the lives of the Ukrainians who are so bravely, and so foolishly, marching obediently into the Russian meatgrinder. The satanic clowns are never happier than when they’re able to arrange a fratricidal European war, and the retarded Ukrainians are reaping the inevitable consequences of obeying foreign rulers who hate them and are ruthlessly sacrificing them in order to preserve the illusion of their global neo-empire.
GloboHomoPedo will continue to remain "optimistic" to the last dead Ukrainian.
The EU tried to back-channel a peace proposal recently, but after being turned by them already (back when they all thought it was going to be a cakewalk), Putin stopped answering his phone.
The Russians know exactly who they are at war with. And anyone who still thinks that's Ukraine is an idiot. Sooner or later, NATO has to either surrender or engage the Russians directly, devoid of any excuses, puppets, or proxies. And that is when we will see the true strength of Clown World revealed.
No wonder the neoclowns are suddenly babbling about diplomacy and the need for negotiations.
[ + ] MichelleObamasPenis
[ - ] MichelleObamasPenis 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 23:14:44 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -3 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:00:07 ago (+0/-3)
Defense, dude. The war wasn't going to end just because the counter-offensive stalled. Russia has a whole lot more territory to "liberate", and they need Ukraine (or at least the West supplying them) to give up before ending the war.
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:28:56 ago (+3/-0)
Even a cursory look reveals that the Russian strategic focus is on the enemy forces, NOT on the terrain. Russia has only moved out of non-strategic, non-decisive terrain and traded that for a stronger defensive position from which to bleed NATO white.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:36:03 ago (+1/-3)
Is that why they spent months trying to take over Bakhmut? A city that is not strategic and not defensive, as it is overlooked by high ground?
Russtard copium.
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:42:23 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:45:33 ago (+0/-4)
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 12:02:09 ago (+3/-0)*
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 13:00:31 ago (+0/-4)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 14:34:07 ago (+3/-0)
No chrimony, listen to bulletstopper. bulletstopper knows what hes talking about.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 14:47:10 ago (+0/-4)
"Is that why they spent months trying to take over Bakhmut? A city that is not strategic and not defensive, as it is overlooked by high ground?"
[ + ] MichelleObamasPenis
[ - ] MichelleObamasPenis 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 25, 2023 00:13:35 ago (+0/-0)*
1. you are lying,
2. you are a glow nigger
3. your parents were right: you are worthless and should not be listened to
Bakhumt is on a plain.
(lie: "Bakhmut ... is overlooked by high ground")
The ground "above" it is like the ground "above" the slow 'rises' of the rolling plains of the Dakotas and Nebraska. See
- https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=014bb8b27fdd42a1a02e2feeb487feaa
- the background of https://img.i-scmp.com/cdn-cgi/image/fit=contain,width=1098,format=auto/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/d8/images/canvas/2023/03/11/b29b97a3-6321-4f77-bf03-29d19f3870e2_70d9f0d5.jpg
- the background at the start of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlgcDAtpMEk
Bakhmut is strategic
(lie: "Bakhumt ... is not strategic")
and
Also, you probably haven't been told to say or even allowed to know this, but one of Russia's objectives is to free/release/whatever the Donbas region from six years of Ukranian attack. Bakhmut is part of this region and has now been captured.
and
0:12 in mind
0:13 is that Bakhmut was probably the most
0:15 successful trap ever created in military history
0:18 ultimately the Russians
0:22 managed to turn bakmut into the
0:23 graveyard of the Ukrainian Army at least
0:26 50 000 Ukrainian soldiers were killed
0:28 and many more were wounded it has been
0:32 nothing but a complete disaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlgcDAtpMEk
and
the MSM is (now) saying the Bakhmut is of "no strategic value", so that should tell any thinking person all they need to know about the strategic value of Bakhmut.
Bakhmut was a key defensive location
(lie: "Bakmut [is] ... not defensive")
source : https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2023/0307/Battle-for-Bakhmut-Will-Ukraine-triumph-or-fall-to-Russian-forces
and
source: https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-kyiv-adamant-about-defense-of-bakhmut/a-64989292
[ + ] StealthNinjaTaliban
[ - ] StealthNinjaTaliban 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:41:06 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 11 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 07:26:47 ago (+11/-0)*
Because that's what "liberators" do right? Hunker down in the midst of the people and use them as human shields? Real heros are always sure to park their tanks right next to churches, schools, and hospitals, right?
Somebody should do a quick check of Yevgeny Prigozhin's financials, because I swear I can hear the sound of the shekels dropping into his accounts from here. Wouldn't be the first time a mercenary group switched sides to the highest bidder, mid-war. Just ask the Italians.
With the Ukes demonstrating epic failure despite everything, GloboHomoPedo is looking to open a second, internal, front with just their checkbook. Anything to try and NOT have to commit NATO troops.
Also check on ol' Yevgeny's current whereabouts. Is he with the troops right now? Or is he bravely sitting next to Zelensky in Finland, courageously guarding his big new pile of shekels?
And how many of those shekels do you think are going to filter down to the troops? What is the going rate for treason these days? What's the "bonus multiplier" like on that and who pays, and how?
Because I've been a contractor, and I gotta tell ya, that would have been an interesting conversation:
"Hey boss? Yeah, we were just re-reading the contract again. Particularly the part enumerated under, "Statement of work"? And me and the boys were just kinda wondering just how exactly we're supposed to get fucking paid for this, now that you've gone and declared war on our employer?"
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:00:37 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:41:28 ago (+1/-0)*
Not the ones that are worth hiring they're not. Do you think Mike Hoare and his boys in 4 Commando would have worked for Patrice Lumumba or the Simbas? Ask if "Executive Outcomes" would have worked for UNITA, or the RUF.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:03:34 ago (+1/-3)
Is Putin going to march out of Moscow and meet Prigozhin in open battle?
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:48:57 ago (+1/-0)*
[ + ] KingsPawn
[ - ] KingsPawn 5 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 09:21:16 ago (+5/-0)*
At the end the tyrannical powers of Vladimir Vladimirovich "savior of the Mother Russia" Putin will be significantly increased. It's just that, nothing more.
[ + ] SirNiggsalot
[ - ] SirNiggsalot 5 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 06:28:19 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 06:39:23 ago (+4/-0)
most of the russian leadership have their own family living in the western capitals according to prigo so i doubt that they will nuke anything. at the same time anything is possible
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:58:30 ago (+2/-0)*
That strike in Rostov? That's as simple as having someone in the building turn on their cell phone, leave it there and walk out.
[ + ] 9000timesempty
[ - ] 9000timesempty 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 10:38:37 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:34:35 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 06:27:37 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 06:37:38 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] dulcima
[ - ] dulcima 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 08:00:36 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] ModernGuilt
[ - ] ModernGuilt 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 09:06:19 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 06:55:03 ago (+4/-0)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1672557805151088641
we might be witnessing history in the making here folks
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons [op] 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 07:07:17 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 07:23:41 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 14:09:30 ago (+2/-0)
this is all so bizarre
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 16:35:56 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 09:27:10 ago (+2/-0)
Number one life skill. It might not get you ahead in the day to day (they work very hard to make sure it will not), but in those critical moment it is what will get you ahead.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 09:43:33 ago (+4/-0)
They openly admit they see themselves as the destroyers for God's sake.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 09:33:46 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] 1234lkjh
[ - ] 1234lkjh 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 09:13:21 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 08:32:21 ago (+2/-0)
So, since then, Wagner has said "fuck you Vlad" and now is fighting both Russia and Ukraine?
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons [op] 6 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 08:41:54 ago (+6/-0)
The last straw that made them flip was that Russian troops apparently attacked one of their positions. It appears it was intentional, but unclear if the order came from above or the action of some drunk commanders with a grudge against Wagner.
In any case, they initially just demanded Russian high command be brought to justice for its many failures. But when Putin labeled them traitors, they declared "there will be a new president soon". Full blown civil war is ensuing.
More details on how it started in previous thread here.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 09:46:35 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons [op] 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 10:05:21 ago (+2/-0)
That's what Wagner is claiming. They showed interviews with captured Russians that attacked them as evidence. Notably, I haven't seen any attempt from Putin's side to discredit those claims. They merely call Wagner traitors, not liars. Many reports of entire regiments of frontline soldiers declaring for Wagner as well.
In any case, full blown civil war in progress at this point.
[ + ] 0rion
[ - ] 0rion 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 12:41:53 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:44:59 ago (+0/-0)
It's unfortunate we don't have a 'Wagner Group' here in the US to kick things off, so fingers crossed they'll initiate global nuclear war for us.
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 16:30:41 ago (+1/-0)
It'd be hilarious if we did.
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 10:15:48 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] StealthNinjaTaliban
[ - ] StealthNinjaTaliban 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 11:39:52 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Zylazineinmypants
[ - ] Zylazineinmypants 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 14:07:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 24, 2023 14:10:42 ago (+0/-0)
nothing of the sort happened. it was an another psy op