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Marx’s racism

submitted by PostWallHelena to Mildlyinteresting 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 14:14:43 ago (+15/-0)     (stoppingsocialism.com)

https://stoppingsocialism.com/2020/06/karl-marx-racism-quotes/

Just a few quotes I pulled from this article. I didnt independently verify any of these. For a jew, he doesnt like jews very much.

“What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. … Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man—and turns them into commodities. … The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange. … The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.”

“The Jewish nigger Lassalle who, I’m glad to say, is leaving at the end of this week, has happily lost another 5,000 talers in an ill-judged speculation. The chap would sooner throw money down the drain than lend it to a ‘friend,’ even though his interest and capital were guaranteed. … It is now quite plain to me—as the shape of his head and the way his hair grows also testify—that he is descended from the negroes who accompanied Moses’ flight from Egypt (unless his mother or paternal grandmother interbred with a nigger). Now, this blend of Jewishness and Germanness, on the one hand, and basic negroid stock, on the other, must inevitably give rise to a peculiar product. The fellow’s importunity is also nigger-like.”

Tremaux “proved that the common Negro type is the degenerate form of a much higher one … a very significant advance over Darwin.”

“Take Amsterdam, for instance, a city harboring many of the worst descendants of the Jews whom Ferdinand and Isabella drove out of Spain and who, after lingering a while in Portugal, were driven out of there too and eventually found a place of retreat in Holland. … Here and there and everywhere that a little capital courts investment, there is ever one of these little Jews ready to make a little suggestion or place a little bit of a loan. The smartest highwayman in the Abruzzi is not better posted about the locale of the hard cash in a traveler’s valise or pocket than these little Jews about any loose capital in the hands of a trader”

“The expulsion of a Leper people from Egypt, at the head of whom was an Egyptian priest named Moses. Lazarus, the leper, is also the basic type of the Jew.”


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[ - ] AmazingFlightLizard 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 19:20:33 ago (+3/-0)

Stop trying to make us like Marx ;)

[ - ] Hoobeejoo 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 15:08:19 ago (+1/-0)

Wasn't Marx a jew, also?

[ - ] ParnellsUprising 5 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 15:21:45 ago (+5/-0)

Yes, but he was an atheist, so he could throw his "brethren" under the bus.

I have to say though, his observations are pretty spot on, other than his failure to realize that his own "Jewishness" whether as a religion or political ideology is basically one and the same.

[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 15:40:22 ago (+4/-0)

Interesting that he seems to be hinting at his belief in 2 sub-types of jews, one thats more “african” and presumably another whiter one. That was my take.

[ - ] ParnellsUprising 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 17:00:56 ago (+3/-0)

Yes, he was referring to the nigger jew as well, those are ones that they still try to deport fom Israel today interestingly enough.

Of course, it didn’t seem like he had much good to say about the askenazi(russian/ slavic) or the sephardic(spain/ portugual/ holland, amongst many other western european nations) jews either.

Of course, in western nations as a whole, it seems that you tend to see more of the ashkenazi type.

[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 17:16:54 ago (+2/-0)

No he wasnt talking about actual black ethiopian beta jews. He was talking about swarthy jews with a more middle eastern phenotype. He mistakenly believes that whiter ashkhnazi are a more “pure” jewish breed but its more like the reverse.

[ - ] ParnellsUprising 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 18:01:02 ago (+2/-0)

Ok, doing a little more research, it would appear that I was wrong on my initial observation, yet, I am still not convinced you are not completely right either. I believe you give too much to the Turkic nature of the Ashkenazim, which I find to be dubious at best.

So, the > Jewish nigger Lassalle
originates from > fellow socialist Ferdinand Lassalle (1824-64), a Breslau Jew

A Breslau jew is another iteration of the Ashkenazim, (from Poland, Russia, Lithuania, and other eastern European countries) which descended from the Khazars.

https://www.theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=13200.0

Now, when you look at the Khazar Empire, they will speak of their Turkic origin, yet the DNA belies a more complicated history. This is where I believe you may have it confused.

That being of one of the Turkic invaders breeding with the local populations to create the Ashkenazi. There is not much recorded history of the "Forgotten Empire", so there is no real truth there unfortunately.

This is where DNA comes in to shine some light of what may have happened.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/khazars-0011246

So, the second part I was right though, as his distaste for the Ashkenazim is reflected in him calling Breslau a nigger jew. The Polish / Lithuanian jews were widely hated, and were basically the niggers of eastern Europe. The majority lived in ghettos, only spoke their ebonics - yiddish, and were disgustingly filthy animals.

Yet, I do not see that he had much love for the Sephardim either:

“Take Amsterdam, for instance, a city harboring many of the worst descendants of the Jews whom Ferdinand and Isabella drove out of Spain and who, after lingering a while in Portugal, were driven out of there too and eventually found a place of retreat in Holland.

I guess the overall take is, basically, he was another self-hating kike.

Nice post BTW!

[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 18:44:33 ago (+1/-0)

fellow socialist Ferdinand Lassalle (1824-64), a Breslau Jew

Right I just looked him up and he is a swarthy shkhenazi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Lassalle

of the Ashkenazim, (from Poland, Russia, Lithuania, and other eastern European countries) which descended from the Khazars.

No theres no evidence of that. Male Jews moved into europe from the levant and reroduced with central european women, probably slaves.

Turkic invaders breeding with the local populations to create the Ashkenazi.

Genetic evidence showed that levantines bred with local white populations to create the ashkhenazi. In the Caucasus they mixed with caucasus populations to create “mountain jews”, georgian jews, turkish jews— none of whom are ashkhenazi. Ashkhenazi do not typically show signs of a central asian or caucasus ancestry.

Ashkhenazi have a variable phenotype. Some look more like their levantine ancestors and some look more like their european ones. Some ashkhnazi you can really tell look jewish like Lasalle. Marx thinks this is an african strain. But its really the look of the levantine jewish immigrants to europe before they were heavily admixed. Which is still common in ashkenazi jews. But not necessarily indicative of a different breed.

The Polish / Lithuanian jews were widely hated, and were basically the niggers of eastern Europe. East European jews were just jews who moved out of germany during the rennaissance and created an alliance with the polish nobility under the arenda system. Sure the gentile peasants hated them, because the jewish arendas lived off the slavs and alot of easter european jews were arendas. They lived in shtetls where they had legal autonomy from the slavic nobility. They lived better than the slavic peasants for the most part, until the end of the arenda system. The dress of the orthodox jewry today is mostly based on the style of the polish nobility of the 17th/18th century. They thought themselves aristocrats.

But these eastern european jews do not appear to be divergent from other ashkhenazim in Germany or France and are very closely related to Sephardim—basically indistinguishable from.

See the subgroups of jews?
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-06b2ab6773639a148b9f988720569269

Ashkhanzim are not genetically close to Adygei or Georgians, which is what youd expect if they were part khazar. They are halfway between french people and palestinians.

[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 18:47:06 ago (+1/-0)

Nice post BTW!

Thanks. Agree to disagree on the Khazar thing?

[ - ] ParnellsUprising 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 18:51:25 ago (+1/-0)

That's fine, but the DNA evidence shows a different story than the "historical" bullshit that is so widely accepted.

There are little to no records, so, there will never be an empirical truth unfortunately.

[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 19:22:35 ago (+1/-0)

I wonder if there are any good DNA samples from Khazarian populations. Of the middle ages that is.

[ - ] ParnellsUprising 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 19:27:39 ago (+1/-0)

Being that it has been an area of war and conquest for a so many years, with so many different tribes/ peoples, I'm not sure what you could ever get anything that would be a reliable marker.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 22:11:38 ago (+0/-0)

Ashkenazis have a deep racial hatred of Sephardics and vice-versa. Both consider the other a pollution of their stock.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 18:35:08 ago (+0/-2)*

Marx and Engels were basically alt-right figures.

https://searchvoat.co/v/OccidentalEnclave/1297573

Generally the best ideas come from the far right and far left. Or maybe we can say the far left's ideas repurposed for far right goals.

Matthew Rose's book deals with Samuel Francis, among other far right thinkers. Francis was a right-wing Marxist. Many years ago I had a guy call me a Marxist-Leninist-Fascist.

https://zlibrary-asia.se/book/18612395/e9f487

[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 18:52:25 ago (+2/-0)

Well I knew he wasnt a fan of religious jews but man he just hated all kinds of jews. Was kind of surprised.

Hows this new z-library working? Is it as good as before?

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 19:17:35 ago (+0/-2)*

Marx's father converted to Lutheranism before he was born or shortly thereafter. I think Marx pretty much saw himself as a German culturally.

Marx on Mexicans:

https://searchvoat.co/v/OccidentalEnclave/1296582

Che Guevara, part Mexican himself, saw it as self-evident that Marx was correct but rejected his views on Mexicans.

In the same way Russian Marxists overlooked the views of Marx and Engels on Slavs and Russians.

https://youtu.be/9aajXG_pcq0

Marx also had some good quotes:

https://searchvoat.co/search.php?t=Marx+joe_mccarthy&co=on

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/728/043/08e.jpg

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-53e1166e62b4d195611b5f8e6f3e2271-lq

Z-Library is all right. There was yet another one that went down too. I think this one requires a sign up for downloads.

[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 19:32:29 ago (+2/-0)

He is right about many aspects of capitalism. He is just naive about what happens when you put a small number of government bureacrats in charge of an entire economy.

I really had no idea he was this racist.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 19:40:08 ago (+0/-2)*

There are a lot of problems with Marxism. But having read most of Marx's major stuff I can say he spends surprisingly little time describing his ideal future socialist society. His social analysis has much value as it is an analysis essentially of the bland, bourgeois, liberal consumer society that now inhabits us, and which frankly is not worth defending.

"There must be something rotten in the very core of a social system which increases its wealth without diminishing its misery, and increases in crimes even more rapidly than in numbers." - Karl Marx

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1859/09/16.htm

This is worth reading:

https://chroniclesmagazine.org/view/marx-was-not-woke/

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 18:36:35 ago (+0/-2)