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Is it time to start advocating to refuse to pay taxes?

submitted by prototype to random 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:24:04 ago (+66/-3)     (random)

The senate is passing a bill to use tax money to train abortionists, the atf is using an armed IRS for gun raids, and the GOP is actively refusing to represent us every time they help the DNC. This in between go-nowhere investigations of election fraud, go-nowhere pronouncements of bad bills being stopped. Last minute turn arounds that outrage the public.

It's a continuous series of provocations, deprivations, and outright thefts.

The DNC is passing bills, and policies, with the RNCs fucking help while the RNC gives us shortshrift.
Effectively it denies us meaningful representation.

So I ask you, is it time to start advocating that everyone start refusing to pay or file taxes?

Should the message be "fuck king george, fuck king joe, fuck the IRS, and fuck the GOP"?

Should we start asking if its time for TOTAL noncompliance?

Should we start compiling grievances lists?

I think we should start a grievances list, as a warning that the next step is full noncompliance with the federal regime.
We have a right to 1. organize, 2. publicly, and and 3. air our grievances. All three of which were flagrantly and violently violated on january sixth.

And now we need a new, expanded set of grievances, that make the case for why full noncompliance with the federalists is on the table.

I'll start the list, in no particular order of severity:

peaceful protesters being tortured

fake trials and fake courts, that use rigged juries

political NGOs cancelling or actively threatening lawyers to deny people legal council

 police unions and FBI agents participating in and provoking riots

Mayorkas opening our borders illegally, and engaging in lawfare against anyone attempting to stop him.

 our nation being flooded by our enemies with fentanyl, violent cartel gang members, and illegals who undermine the public treasury and drive up the cost of living.

repreated denial of representation by an out-in-the-open scheme whereby candidates of one party run for the other party.

 the weaponization of intelligence agencies against one entire half of the public, and any would-be representatives to spoil efforts at reform, and willfully deny representation.



To be clear, I am not advocating non-compliance, nor am I advocating failure to pay taxes.

What I am asking is simply whether it is time now to start advocating refusal to pay taxes and non-compliance with federal mandates?


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[ - ] FuckShitJesus 18 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:39:55 ago (+19/-1)

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”

― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

[ - ] prototype [op] 13 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:44:51 ago (+13/-0)

Eventually you realize your own government started a war against you, its bureaucrats started a war against millions of people, and that their laws are one-sided unequally applied farce--and that all of it is part of the war they are prosecuting against your nation, your rights, and your fellow citizens.

Whats a federal mandate without representation?
Warfare against the public

Whats a federal official?

Nothing but an enemy combatant.

They labelled millions of us domestic terrorists and domestic extremists for our political beliefs, our religion, our refusal to be judged for our skin color, the exercise of our very rights.

They get the same label, the same treatment.

[ - ] MichaelStewart 5 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 13:00:29 ago (+5/-0)

Isn't Ayn Rand a jew?

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

Every red blooded white nationalist needs to be moving to alternative currencies such as silver and Monero ( XMR ), and actively engaging in commerce using said currencies.

"But muh lead"

Fine, do that too.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 8 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 14:59:01 ago (+8/-0)

She was a jew that wrote some pretty based stuff... there is white trash but most whites are good.

99% of jews are bad but every now and the one spills the beans or realizes how fucking evil their tribe is and outs them.

Erik clopper went to war against circumcision almost no white people do shit about it or care

[ - ] deleted 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 22:59:41 ago (+2/-0)*

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[ - ] purityspiral 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 15:51:07 ago (+1/-0)

I thought she was russian but I did not think she was Jewish. may need to take another look.

[ - ] aboutime 3 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:38:16 ago (+3/-0)

she was both

[ - ] purityspiral 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 20:54:54 ago (+1/-0)

i feel betrayed

[ - ] MichaelStewart 0 points 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 00:11:04 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] purityspiral 1 point 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 06:57:50 ago (+1/-0)

The dating sections ssl certificate is expired

[ - ] MichaelStewart 0 points 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 12:28:36 ago (+0/-0)

You expect (((them))) to pay for that?
Continue thread

[ - ] Trickthegoyim 0 points 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 01:30:02 ago (+0/-0)

All the free market bs about letting banking upper class get away with their crimes

[ - ] deleted 5 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:14:15 ago (+5/-0)

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[ - ] Belfuro 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 19:33:16 ago (+3/-1)

Unpopular opinion on here.

It doesn't matter that the synagogue of Satan is found at the core of Judaism being the perfect home for such worship.

Because Satan infiltrates and perverts everything humans do.

If not Judaism then catholic church which is known as the dark ages.

Or the venetian trade guild which absolutely was satanic and a precursor to the modern usury banking system.

Humanity is at war with an unknown, hostile, foreign entity that is ancient.

And it absolutely can communicate.. "telepathically". What Christians call temptations.

Unless people have spiritual armor they will succumb to his worship.

Spending your days wasting away on porn or video games? Angry without reason all the time? Nihilistic? Hedonistic? Depressed or suicidal?

You might just be a so called atheist who actually worships Satan by doing his bidding

[ - ] deleted 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 23:02:37 ago (+2/-0)*

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[ - ] Master_Foo 3 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:14:58 ago (+3/-0)

Some Jews are self aware.
We let them stand in the back of the line to the oven.

[ - ] NukeAmerica 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:27:01 ago (+1/-0)

You first

[ - ] Master_Foo 4 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:51:11 ago (+4/-0)

You'll let me throw the first jew in the oven?
Wow! That is such an honor!

[ - ] 2017Fallout 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 15:00:25 ago (+2/-0)

Also develop barter economies where you can thuscutting out 'money' altogether.

[ - ] Razzoriel 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:57:08 ago (+2/-0)

Alisa Rozembaum is jewish, yes.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 22:59:20 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] FuckShitJesus 4 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 14:53:53 ago (+4/-0)

There is no government. All organizations of people are mere fiction we create to allow tribalism.

[ - ] prototype [op] 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:27:38 ago (+2/-0)

There is no government.

Well if there was before, there isn't now.

The correct term is 'criminal syndicate.'

Another useful term might be 'terrorist organization'.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 21:03:39 ago (+1/-0)

terrorist organization

The Cult accuses others that of which they are guilty of.

[ - ] Razzoriel 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:59:17 ago (+2/-0)

Stop quoting jews thinking it will help your cause. Alisa Rosembaum made this book to put you exactly into this predictament.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 23:21:28 ago (+1/-0)*

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[ - ] FuckShitJesus -3 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 14:53:22 ago (+0/-3)

How typical of the jew book slave (who needs to believe in a magical, make-believe invisible wizard in the sky) to be decry works of their jew masters hypocritically.

[ - ] 2017Fallout 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 15:01:13 ago (+2/-0)

She may be a Jew but this book is a must read in my opinion.

[ - ] deleted 4 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:22:30 ago (+4/-0)

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[ - ] Master_Foo 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:17:06 ago (+2/-0)

People keep saying this is a good movie.
I never saw it.
Is it really worth it?

[ - ] deleted 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 20:26:30 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] MichaelStewart 1 point 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 00:15:00 ago (+1/-0)

If he wasn’t referring to The Incredibles but was instead referring to Atlas Shrugged…

At the peak of my libertarianism, I saw it in theaters, and it was FUCKING HORRIBLE.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 19:29:43 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] FuckShitJesus 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 15:05:13 ago (+3/-1)

Just my personal opinion - It's a case of the jew openly showing you their strategy, AKA mocking you outright for being ignorant or unwilling to do anything about it.

The milquetoast (room-temp IQ) crowd will, of course, just foam at the mouth and focus/distract on "muh jew".

[ - ] deleted 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 23:22:23 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] deleted 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:58:36 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 20:58:40 ago (+0/-0)

One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

coughAustraliacough

[ - ] Cantaloupe 9 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:39:49 ago (+10/-1)*

The ideas of Sun Tzu are very effective.

"strike their vacuities"

Take actions that are measurably effective, are in your control, and over which they are powerless.

Example, they want your ghost guns... if only they hadn't been stolen

Consider, what is the purpose of taxes?

It's to force you to trade your time and efforts with them. They want all of your time. And they want to use you to destroy yourself.

Often one's productive time is exchanged for food, heat, shelter, healthcare, socializing; using their money, they take from your trade; and also print more, taking from your savings. Free society must not use their money. Calculate carefully how one's time is used in the pursuit of the above; and cut out the parasite.

If your time is not available for their purposes, then who will support the useless city dwellers and imported freeloaders they hope to breed you with?

There was a myth? Of a dragon with three elements of power: gold, claws, knowledge.

The latter was the most valuable. We see that when the WEF declares their biggest problem is the uncontrolled social media.

The compliancy of the sheep is destroyed when they see the narrative opposed.

Both their money and information warfare must be understood and opposed. The latter is a program of tyranny through cult think; through gnostic techniques of pursuit of a false utopia and confusing children.

[ - ] purityspiral 4 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 15:52:59 ago (+4/-0)

the fact that they work together toward a common goal, and we do not, is also a factor I would say.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 20:54:09 ago (+0/-0)

Minimizing your tax imprint is a good idea in any case. Though, depending on employer, you could go tax-free in your intake of cash as well. It saves them employment taxes and all sorts of hassles as well.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 23:33:05 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] SilentByAssociation 6 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 13:36:18 ago (+6/-0)

Start?

Pay whatever taxes you feel that you need to pay. Just understand what you're paying and why.

As of late, I suggest starting with the Tax Honesty Primer. Under the tax code, what is the definition of "individual"? I'm sure plenty of American goats will find that they're exempt.

https://www.taxhonestyprimer.com/

[ - ] MichaelStewart 1 point 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 00:15:58 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks, I’ll check out Tax Honesty Primer

[ - ] ilikeskittles 5 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 13:02:08 ago (+5/-0)

Most people are wage slaves. The business takes out the taxes before the employee even sees it. So? How are most people to stop paying taxes? You have to file a return to get the money that government over paid itself to get it back. Not paying taxes only works if you’re self employed.

[ - ] SilentByAssociation 5 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 13:40:15 ago (+5/-0)

Amend your W-4 to indicate no withholdings. I think you'll still get Social Security and Medicare taken out, but it's nominal in comparison to all of the other withholdings.

Lawful Money (12 USC § 411) might be worth exploring as some people claim to be getting 100% of withholdings returned for both state and federal income tax.

This resource might also be worthwhile:

https://www.taxhonestyprimer.com/

[ - ] ilikeskittles 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 15:01:20 ago (+2/-0)

I ran my own business, had that covered. And now I’m retired. But good information for some others.

[ - ] Razzoriel 5 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:58:13 ago (+5/-0)

You guys failed your duty when your country got dragged into WW I. When you accepted quid pro quo from freemasonry. When your constituents got murdered, sank in "unsinkable" ships and dragged into courts. When your own soldiers got bombed by "allies". When others warned you of the banking autocracy taking over. When your machine guns got banned. When your buildings got demolished with people inside and you bought the plane terrorism line and sinker to make the Middle East even more unstable (which was fine before the Balfour Declaration). When your people got arrested for peacefully protesting. When they stole your elections in front of you to mock you. When they sexualize and kidnap your children. You are the people more apt in the entire world to stop it. With the most means to do so. But the enemy knows it, so the spiritual rot in you is cranked to eleven to compensate.

And you ain't gonna do shit, because you -still- think your magical revolution will solve anything, when you cannot do anything even in your own home and family.

I know of this all, because I am also you, in another country, with not equal, but similar patterns, because we have the same enemy.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 14:52:59 ago (+1/-1)

The problem is people doing shit, if they actually did nothing it would be better. Atlas Shrugged

[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:57:56 ago (+0/-0)

Alisa Rozembaum isnt taking you out of this.

[ - ] Questionable_2 5 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:33:19 ago (+6/-1)

Sounds good...but people won't do shit till they are hungry, cold, and the fuckin TV doesn't work.

[ - ] Gowithit 5 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:34:54 ago (+5/-0)

Im hungry, cold and my t.v. hasn't worked in a long time.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 21:15:40 ago (+0/-0)

You might want to revaluate being a gimp.

[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 06:15:35 ago (+0/-0)

Can't. They started first.


[ - ] HeyJames 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:44:48 ago (+1/-0)

As long as the supermarket provides cheap abundant calories and there is climate control in every building, nothing will be done.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 21:12:02 ago (+0/-0)

You mean 2hr shipping and a wage slave to deliver my goods to a parking space I drove to so I wouldn't trigger my anxiety by walking into the store and purchasing it like a normal person.

[ - ] LiberalsAreMental 3 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:02:24 ago (+3/-0)

There was a quote recently that said we need to follow the law meticulously until it's time to unleash the fury of Hell. Was it from Dr. Pierce?

If you draw the attention of LEs, while breaking the law, you will lose.

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:24:22 ago (+1/-0)

If you draw the attention of LEs, while breaking the law, you will lose.

you're going to lose anyway.

Sometimes drawing fire is necessary.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 3 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 14:56:22 ago (+3/-0)

Property I bought for 250k I gutted it and city is fighting me on permits I basically devalued it. The new city appraisal office said it's now worth 425k so now I'm paying almost double in property taxes.

11k a year. Time for the fucking rope for these cock suckered fuck refusing to pay

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:25:47 ago (+1/-0)

You don't own it. You're just renting it from the regime.

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:21:31 ago (+2/-0)

Property tax was invented by a French Jew to break the wealthy land barons and force them to sell their property. Then Jews bought everything and took control of the country. Wash, rinse, repeat

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:06:28 ago (+1/-0)

Dude, never get permits if you can avoid it. I’ve done a ton of major work on a few houses with no permits. Got red tagged once for a roof and A/C. Paid the stupid fine and never called for a final. Went to sell the house and it came up. Realtor somehow made it go away. I don’t ask permission “permit” to work on my own shit.

[ - ] chrimony 3 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 13:56:16 ago (+3/-0)

The Fed conjures money out of thin air as they need it. Money is debt -- no debt, no money! They don't need your taxes.

[ - ] Sector7 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 20:49:41 ago (+0/-0)

The conjure would fail without supporters.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 21:48:40 ago (+0/-0)

Well sure, if everybody stopped using dollars it would fail. Do you see that happening?

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 3 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 13:04:34 ago (+3/-0)

"PLATA or PLOMO"????

[ - ] Leveraction 3 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:59:37 ago (+3/-0)

Prototype, you are spot on!!!

WHEN is enough is enough.

[ - ] prototype [op] 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:25:09 ago (+2/-0)

WHEN is enough is enough.

A very good summary of what I wrote.

[ - ] NoRefunds 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:34:40 ago (+2/-0)

It's time to kill these mother fuckers but most of us don't want to do it

[ - ] usedoilanalysis 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:13:06 ago (+2/-0)

Pay your dues, then you have a right to complain about the state things are in. You get out what you put in.

[ - ] prototype [op] 4 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:23:31 ago (+4/-0)*

Pay your dues, then you have a right to complain about the state things are in. You get out what you put in.

Well said.

We've all been paying our dues for years, only for those dues to be increased, and used to explicitly destroy us, and our nation.

Don't you think its time to discuss not paying dues?

[ - ] PhantomXLII 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 15:40:47 ago (+2/-0)

No taxation without domination.

[ - ] SocksOnCats 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 15:20:11 ago (+2/-0)

It’s been time for this for a long time.

No withholdings on the W-4 from a lot of people will cause quite a stir, and it will save you money if you handle things correctly.

Also, when paying taxes, just file and don’t pay. Delay paying for as long as you can. Make them bill you. Keep your money as long as you can and use it to make more money for as long as you can.

[ - ] Lophan 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:46:40 ago (+2/-0)

And the fees and interest the compound on? Which will probably triple your original "bill"...

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 14:57:24 ago (+2/-0)

Serious question if the federal goverment went away and we just had state and local goverment would anything be worse then it already is?

Answer is no

[ - ] Spaceman84 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 14:06:32 ago (+2/-0)

Yes absolutely you should do that. Let us know how it goes.

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:24:40 ago (+1/-0)

Let us know how it goes.

Ok. /s

[ - ] Sector7 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 20:48:19 ago (+0/-0)

It went great.

[ - ] Ex_hack 2 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:27:37 ago (+2/-0)

It takes between five to ten years of tax evasion for the IRS to actually build a solid case of crimnal tax evasion. Even then with a solid case federal prosecutors loathe to take tax cases on because of the amount of work involved.

[ - ] prototype [op] 4 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 12:35:41 ago (+4/-0)

"It takes between five to ten years of tax evasion for the IRS "

Thats actually the kind of message thats dangerous. Sort of like during the civil war, both sides were fond of saying "it'd be over in a week! Easy peasy!"

Lowers the mental barrier for people already sufficiently agitated with policies they didn't agree to and dissatisfied with lack of representation.

I'm not recommending you share it, only noting the effectiveness of the message.

[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 4 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 13:54:31 ago (+4/-0)

It took them almost four years to finally notify me that I'd fucked up on one year's filing.
And, of course, they still applied penalties, fees, and interest despite the delay being entirely their fault.
One little mistake took them that long.
So, I can believe that 5-to-10 figure is accurate.

[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:13:10 ago (+2/-1)

Hello sir, I'm agent Shecklestein from the IRS.
We have a special program for Patriots like you.
If you'd like to sign up to pay no taxes, just submit your name address and social security number and we'll enter you to win a 5 year vacation to our lovely resort where you will get an all inclusive cot and three meals daily.

[ - ] anthonylancer 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 20:22:52 ago (+1/-0)

However, at least check out the link he shared. Lots of people talking about loopholes, paying taxes is gay af.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 21:21:47 ago (+0/-0)

Why didn't you ask for my cell number also? I'm guessing you got that from the NSA.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 22:33:32 ago (+0/-0)

We don't need to record phone calls anymore.
We can just use audio AI to generate incriminating conversations.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 17:59:05 ago (+1/-0)

There’s ways to minimize taxation, like owning a business, preferably incorporated.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 16:08:19 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] MichaelStewart 0 points 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 00:19:52 ago (+0/-0)

Alright, what’s the secret?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 19:34:42 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] herbert_west 0 points 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 03:18:33 ago (+0/-0)

Fun fact: In Germany, tax evasion is the only debt crime for which you go to prison.

[ - ] recon_johnny 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 23:48:42 ago (+0/-0)

You act like what’s in the Constitution matters.

It doesn’t, at least not in this authoritarian, tyrannical, oppressive environment where you’re just free range tax slaves.

For it to matter, those “in power” would have to enforce it. They do not. Actively, and to all of our detriment. The USA you thought you grew up in doesn’t exist. And frankly, never did.

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 10 monthsJun 19, 2023 14:03:45 ago (+0/-0)

You act like what’s in the Constitution matters.

I do, because (in part), it does.

Understand, when you're trying to figure out what can be done in a practical sense, that oversimplifying is your enemy.

Instead of asking whether something matters, whether it has an influence, ask "to whom"?

Parts of the judiciary are still responsive. Parts.

Parts of law enforcement can be persuaded, or we wouldn't have the 3%'ers, who despite having a glowy leader, no doubt had honest faces among their ranks. Likewise LE providing constituionalists intelligence on antifa in the likes of portland (before those cops were kicked out).

Parts of the media, in tailspin, based purely on self-interest, have been made to infight.

So the question to ask is, for everyone, whats their motivation? Whats in it for them? Why would they want to help if they could be brought around at all/ What would make them want to contribute? What do they have to offer?

Sometimes like I said, its less about direct support, and more about ruining the enemies toys, like the regime's media and propaganda outlets through fucking up their funding sources (ad revenue), or getting them to infight and ruin their credibility, or tricking them into running false stories that reveal them to be mouthpieces for the regime.

Othertimes its triage, asking what parts of institutions can be turned against their regime employers, and brought into the fold, at least within the sphere of what they have to offer like insider knowledge (whistleblowers), forewarning against the regime making moves against us? Etc.

Theres also a question of what we can force them to do, in a way that harms them, their control, their political power, their economic power, their social influence, their propapaganda, their religious influence, etc.

It's not about whether the u.s.a we grew up in exists or not, it's about whether their exists a fighting chance to make it possible again.

That is the only gift we can give to the future. A fighting chance at something better than today.

Will you choose to be a defender of liberty? Because thats what america needs.

[ - ] MartinTimothy 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 23:45:06 ago (+0/-0)*

Ed & Elaine Brown refused to pay taxes both have been in custody since 2009, he at age 77 has a release date of 7/26/2045, 78 yo Elaine has a release date of 11/8/2042.

They had been prosecuted as the result of a months long armed stand off at their home in New Hampshire. They had been resisting surrendering to serve a 2007 sentence related to tax resistance activities.

Ed Brown had been convicted of “(1) conspiracy to prevent officers of the United States from discharging their duties in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 372; (2) conspiracy to commit assault on a federal officer in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371; (3) carrying a destructive device in connection with a crime of violence in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c); (4) unlawful possession of a firearm in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g); (5) obstruction of justice in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1503; and (6) two counts of failure to appear at sentencing in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 3146.” Link

Y'all refuseniks should know that at their ages it is highly unlikely that either of the Browns will ever get out of prison.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 20:53:20 ago (+0/-0)*

Had this conversation today.

We have to ask ourselves as We The People. How does this benefit Americans? And if it doesn't further the American Experiment for the pursuit of happiness we end it.

But until we seriously ask this question the 👃 will continue to push the destruction of America.

We're paid up and fed up.

Billion of our tax dollars have been spent on jew wars or mutilation of kids.

Until both stop were on a tax holiday.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 10 monthsJun 18, 2023 18:51:48 ago (+1/-1)

Tax evasion or similar usually falls into felony territory. Should only be done and advocated for in my opinion if you are prepared to try and overthrow the government, which is also a felony in certain circumstances. The key, as I've said before, is to make yourself too dangerous to fuck with. Or if they do fuck with you to be able to do serious damage to the system in reprisal. Some joker just refusing to pay taxes without the proper prep is inviting system attack.

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