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"Ukrainians Surrender En masse To Save Their Lives. Military Summary And Analysis For 2023.06.18"

submitted by beece to War 1.9 yearsJun 18, 2023 10:02:37 ago (+11/-0)     (www.youtube.com)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKjfANudnZA

Video (titled "Ukraine Suffers A Terrible Defeat On Zaporozhie Front, Taking Heavy losses In Tanks And Men!") of battle starts at 3:03 or so here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyypiA4dJ00

Too soon to call it, but the Ukrainian counteroffensive clearly doesn't have air control, making for easy ground targets for Russians. The US is borrowing money to send it into this toilet to be flushed. Crazy shit.


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[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 18, 2023 14:28:21 ago (+0/-0)

Regarding air superiority, neither side has it because air defense is more advanced than the aircraft they have at their disposal. Drones are the closest thing they have to CAS.

[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 18, 2023 15:48:55 ago (+0/-0)

Russia has air superiority over their own lines.

So when Ukraine breach they get slaughtered by helis, not just artillery.

And in another way Russia does have air superiority.

Not just suppression of natos air defense.

But Russia can and do send their drones and missiles to do what trad planes used to do.

Ukraine is struggling to do even a fraction of the same

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 18, 2023 15:58:00 ago (+0/-0)

Neither side can fly over enemy territory. That’s not air superiority. They’re simply launching missiles from their own airspace. Australia is going to send their decommissioned F-18s so we’ll see if that shakes things up.

[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 18, 2023 21:00:00 ago (+0/-0)

F18 and f16 are canon fodder.

Yes Russia can fly over Ukraine.
Their drones do all all day every day.
So do their missiles.

Nato aa is do degraded they have to conserve for manned aircraft and those are staying out of range.

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 19, 2023 21:13:20 ago (+0/-0)

You are talking out of your ass. Air defenses cannot effectively target drones. The US is developing the Coyote drone to intercept enemy drones but no air defense system can effectively target most drones, certainly not the smaller electric drones. We are discussing air superiority, which has nothing to do with drones or missiles. Air superiority is the ability to fly sorties over the battlefield after destroying air defenses, which as you noted neither side does in this conflict.

I wish civilians would know when they’re out of their depth. I helped train Army drone pilots at Ft Hood when they got their first batch of Grey Eagles.

[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 20, 2023 02:31:49 ago (+0/-0)

What will your next reddit copium be when f16 burn alongside the leopards?

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 20, 2023 11:05:29 ago (+0/-0)*

SU-35s have already been shot down and the SU-57 is no where to be seen. Who is on copium? I’m rooting for Russia anyway.

And you argue like a jew. Ignore valid points, change the subject constantly. Who belongs on reddit? You, retard.

[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 05:03:52 ago (+0/-0)

Lol pathetic cunt. Pathetic.

Where is the su57 dumb cunt? That is like asking where are the f22.

Neither side are sending their best.

Yet Russia is burning natos second best with ease.

41 nations vs Russia and Russia is winning the battlefield and.
Oh you tell me. Who is winning the economic and sanctions war cunt?

Which nations cunt are chopping young girls tits off?

Which nation is strongly Christian and which ones are the bolshevik... jewish. Created atheist?

Get fucking owned. Again


Fucking redditors

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 22, 2023 10:55:00 ago (+0/-0)

Take your meds spaz.

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 19, 2023 21:17:46 ago (+0/-0)

Regarding the F-18 and F-16, they are old but their electronics are as good or better than Russian state of the art. The SU-35 isn’t really a 5th gen aircraft. More like 4.5. The Russians would have the edge in a dogfight but not at a distance. NATO has better radar and missiles.

[ - ] Laputois 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 18, 2023 15:22:24 ago (+0/-0)

When someone prefaces a statement with "To tell the truth..." I automatically disbelieve anything they say.

[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 18, 2023 14:27:16 ago (+1/-0)

Hohols are claiming the Russians are surrendering en masse too. This is the gayest war I’ve ever seen. Both sides are just making up lies like crazy. The numbers are meaningless. Even the photographs are mostly fake and gay.