Lol! One moment I’ll never forget is my dad getting pulled over for speeding. He told the cop, “Why don’t you go get the murderers and rapists like you’re supposed to!” I think I was around 11. Still hear the tone of his voice like it was yesterday.
Yea or Should've said 'You've got something on the bottom of your boot ........ no the other one ....... no no no the other one ...... oh my bad' and drove off.
Seat belts are not really to save lives. Seat belts are to insure that the bodies are not ejected through the windshields. In really bad crashes, some bodies are thrown into weeds, swampy areas and forests, and can be overlooked. Seatbelts just make it easier to count the bodies and to containerize them.
Okay, it's mostly about fines, but there are these other factors. Not about keeping anybody alive.
I posted about this a while ago, but seatbelt laws are the first generation of "guilty until proven innocent" laws.
1) what actual proof did the cop have for giving the ticket? Most dashcams and other sensors are limited in viewing and angles to see the seatbelt.
2) if you didn't admit it, or had it off when the cop pulled you over, here is one defense in court - not a lawyer, may or may not work:
Ask for the proof of the crime.
If there is no actual photo or video of you driving with the seatbelt off, then it really boils down to your word against the cops - unless you have proof of being innocent by having a video of the seatbelt on.
If it does end up your word against the cops, the judge will most likely rule in favor of the zogbot and the (((fine))).
Then turn to the judge and ask why the word of a police officer is worth more than your word. Aren't people equal in the eyes of the law?
Again ask for the proof, and then claim your rights are being violated under the 5th amendment, in that every person is innocent until "proven" guilty. When the entire case is a zogbot's word against yours, then the corrupt jewdicial system will have to prove that the zogbot somehow is a better witness than the one inside the car.
Another thought - if you are innocent and have proof, such as a video (I doubt a photo is sufficient, due to the technology of altering etc,) then find out what the penalty is for a zogbot a) falsely claiming you were not wearing a seatbelt (should be in the seatbelt law, but most of these laws that I have read have zero penalty for false citations) and b) for perjury, if you allow the filthy zogbot to get on the stand in front of the judge and you ask for the proof, many times, and each time is just the zogbot's word.
Perjury, after showing the video evidence, should get the zogbot a healthy penalty, because even though the jewdicial system is corrupt to the core, most judges hate being lied to, and if the questioning is such that several false claims are recorded in the transcript, then there is little wiggle room for a judge to even give a pass for the perjury.
Bonus points for finding a lawyer that is willing to take any appeals all the way to SCOTUS and get all of these "guilty until proven innocent" laws overturned.
Contest in court, setup a court date. Before the date postpone it. Keep postponing it until the cop moves away. Then have your court case. The cop doesn't show up, judge throws outs the case. have a nice day.
It's stupid as shit they make auto insurance mandatory. Make health insurance mandatory. Then they want to bitch and complain that you don't wear a seatbelt? Nigger, if auto insurance covers any damages I do to someone else and any damages they do to me, and health insurance covers damage I do to myself, why the fuck does it matter if I smash my brains open by not wearing a seat belt?
Oh... Wait, I answered my own question. Insurance companies. That's right. The seat belt law is to protect insurance companies. Higher safety standards in vehicles are to protect insurance companies, not drivers.
[ - ] localsal 1 point 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 18:28:43 ago (+1/-0)
Definitely the insurance companies, but the smokescreen the (((governments))) used to pass the laws was to have all those filthy zogbots stand up in front of the legislatures and cry about how THEY are the real victims when people don't wear seat belts because THEY have to attend the scene and treat the selfish nazis that weren't wearing a seat belt, and that have suffered traumatic injuries.
Look up how many zogbot offices supported the legislation. It is astounding. Much hand rubbing for sure as they chuckle to themselves at how much more (((revenue))) they will be collecting behind this "safety" law.
I insist my wife wears one, but I don't give a fuck about anyone else unless it sets an alarm off. Fuck that shit, I don't care if you wear it but at least nigger rig it to shut the fuck up. Trying to drive here
Perfect. Something simple like that works good enough for me. I just don't want to hear the ping modern trucks made for faggots make. For the record, I wear a seatbelt. I just don't like being told what to do by something I own.
The other day I didn’t wear my seat belt. Just going on a little five minute drive. Not even goin fast 30 mph. Me and my coworker made a conscious decision to ignore the dings. This truck comes in the other lane and the guy must have been texting and driving. I had to drive off the road to keep from getting head on smashed. He was going atleast 30. It happens that quick. It’s fine it’s fine it’s fine and then you’re dead or crippled. Some random morning. No warning no nothing.
The gov shouldn't be allowed to force us to wear our seatbelts. They can suggest it and I can do whatever my god given right is which is to do whatever the fuck I choose. I choose. If seatbelts weren't anything but a revenue generator then why don't kids on skoo busses wear them? Its another kike scam to generate shekels. I got a warning recently for parking by a lake and going fishing. I already paid 40 shekels for my license but they expect me to pay a fee to park at the lake. dirty rotten kike garbage.
There's documented cases where the seatbelts killed the vehicle occupants. I saw one where in cut the person in half. Still, it should be your choice, not the ZOG's.
If seatbelts killed even close to the number of people they saved they wouldn't be mandatory. You're making a false equivalence on purpose because you know your argument sucks.
"Ask yourself, who’s the most likely to come after YOU… agents of the System or some handful of Coloreds?" - James Mason, SIEGE
Government is essentially cop violence. And the liberal state is voting to be everyone's slave or electing a dictator every 4 years. And the cops and permanent government bureaucrats aren't even elected. If America balkanizes into some kind of apocalyptic wasteland smaller scale, anarchist type arrangements become more possible.
Vonu is an idea worth looking at. This is the most important book that deals with it. But there are others.
How dare you put my safety at risk by you not wearing a seatbelt.
Couldn't resist, after the mask and jab mandates of the last couple of years. Yeah, it's pretty retarded. Seems like it should be up to the individual.
[ + ] Fascinus
[ - ] Fascinus 20 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 17:07:36 ago (+20/-0)
Yeah. Why don't you go patrol some worthless niggers that are committing actual crimes instead of bothering me?
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[ - ] dingbat 12 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 17:35:10 ago (+12/-0)
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[ - ] dassar 0 points 2 yearsJun 15, 2023 03:27:56 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Panic
[ - ] Panic 0 points 2 yearsJun 15, 2023 05:59:10 ago (+0/-0)
Okay, it's mostly about fines, but there are these other factors. Not about keeping anybody alive.
[ + ] noonefromnowhere
[ - ] noonefromnowhere 1 point 2 yearsJun 15, 2023 06:38:26 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 2.0 yearsJun 18, 2023 05:10:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] mannerbund
[ - ] mannerbund 11 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 17:59:15 ago (+11/-0)
Which person did you break a contract with?
Which person did you steal the property of?
No one, no crime was committed.
[ + ] noonefromnowhere
[ - ] noonefromnowhere -6 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 23:16:01 ago (+0/-6)
[ + ] Fascinus
[ - ] Fascinus 4 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 23:22:34 ago (+4/-0)
No doubt, they may have to witness the aftermath and actual road scraping might be taking it a bit too far:
https://ecobear.co/knowledge-center/car-accident-cleanup/
https://jalopnik.com/who-cleans-up-after-a-car-crash-455869214
[ + ] noonefromnowhere
[ - ] noonefromnowhere -2 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 23:39:50 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] Fascinus
[ - ] Fascinus 2 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 23:42:54 ago (+2/-0)
I suggest, in that case, that rather than infringe on individual liberties, these individuals look for other assignments or find a different job.
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[ - ] Her0n 1 point 2 yearsJun 15, 2023 07:53:21 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 6 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 17:06:01 ago (+7/-1)
1) what actual proof did the cop have for giving the ticket? Most dashcams and other sensors are limited in viewing and angles to see the seatbelt.
2) if you didn't admit it, or had it off when the cop pulled you over, here is one defense in court - not a lawyer, may or may not work:
Ask for the proof of the crime.
If there is no actual photo or video of you driving with the seatbelt off, then it really boils down to your word against the cops - unless you have proof of being innocent by having a video of the seatbelt on.
If it does end up your word against the cops, the judge will most likely rule in favor of the zogbot and the (((fine))).
Then turn to the judge and ask why the word of a police officer is worth more than your word. Aren't people equal in the eyes of the law?
Again ask for the proof, and then claim your rights are being violated under the 5th amendment, in that every person is innocent until "proven" guilty. When the entire case is a zogbot's word against yours, then the corrupt jewdicial system will have to prove that the zogbot somehow is a better witness than the one inside the car.
Another thought - if you are innocent and have proof, such as a video (I doubt a photo is sufficient, due to the technology of altering etc,) then find out what the penalty is for a zogbot a) falsely claiming you were not wearing a seatbelt (should be in the seatbelt law, but most of these laws that I have read have zero penalty for false citations) and b) for perjury, if you allow the filthy zogbot to get on the stand in front of the judge and you ask for the proof, many times, and each time is just the zogbot's word.
Perjury, after showing the video evidence, should get the zogbot a healthy penalty, because even though the jewdicial system is corrupt to the core, most judges hate being lied to, and if the questioning is such that several false claims are recorded in the transcript, then there is little wiggle room for a judge to even give a pass for the perjury.
Bonus points for finding a lawyer that is willing to take any appeals all the way to SCOTUS and get all of these "guilty until proven innocent" laws overturned.
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[ + ] Fascinus
[ - ] Fascinus 2 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 22:02:17 ago (+2/-0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
Non-(((jew)))Tube link: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
Catbox mirror: https://files.catbox.moe/imyyk0.mp4
Pomf.lain mirror: https://pomf2.lain.la/f/m3xbtx1l.mp4
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 18:48:00 ago (+0/-0)
And then use the rest of the defense you used. Unless no shoulder restraint is illigal?
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[ - ] bobdole9 5 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 17:59:57 ago (+5/-0)
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[ - ] ilikeskittles 5 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 16:54:14 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 4 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 17:56:08 ago (+4/-0)
But not as stupid as not wearing one.
I'm a big fan of letting stupid solve itself.
Somebody find the video of the nigger who took a corner too fast while being chased by the cops and he got thrown out of the car.
[ + ] eongoat
[ - ] eongoat 4 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 17:08:25 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 1 point 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 23:36:29 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Ragnar
[ - ] Ragnar 3 points 2 yearsJun 15, 2023 00:33:43 ago (+3/-0)
And then everyone clapped?
[ + ] Trollasaurus
[ - ] Trollasaurus 3 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 18:22:10 ago (+3/-0)
Oh... Wait, I answered my own question. Insurance companies. That's right. The seat belt law is to protect insurance companies. Higher safety standards in vehicles are to protect insurance companies, not drivers.
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 1 point 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 18:28:43 ago (+1/-0)
Look up how many zogbot offices supported the legislation. It is astounding. Much hand rubbing for sure as they chuckle to themselves at how much more (((revenue))) they will be collecting behind this "safety" law.
[ + ] BitterVeteran
[ - ] BitterVeteran 2 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 23:29:43 ago (+2/-0)
"No thanks, officer. I already have your mom's phone number." And then drive off.
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[ + ] con77
[ - ] con77 1 point 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 18:28:58 ago (+1/-0)
you should have winked at him and asked for his #
I dont wear a seatbelt or a helmet unless Im going on the freeway. (wind noise)
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[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 23:25:32 ago (+1/-1)*
Government is essentially cop violence. And the liberal state is voting to be everyone's slave or electing a dictator every 4 years. And the cops and permanent government bureaucrats aren't even elected. If America balkanizes into some kind of apocalyptic wasteland smaller scale, anarchist type arrangements become more possible.
Vonu is an idea worth looking at. This is the most important book that deals with it. But there are others.
https://archive.org/details/vonu-the-search-for-personal-freedom-loompanics-unlimited
[ + ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior
[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 0 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 20:09:49 ago (+0/-0)
Couldn't resist, after the mask and jab mandates of the last couple of years. Yeah, it's pretty retarded. Seems like it should be up to the individual.
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[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 2 yearsJun 14, 2023 18:45:22 ago (+0/-0)
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