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Don't count on it. This is the same logic that was used on the IRS, and look what that came to.

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Yes and no.

Yes, in that they have the people and weaponry to force it. As well as the jew-owned court system to enact whatever they want.

No, in that every man has the god-given/natural right to defend themselves. As well as the 2nd amendment, which is an enumeration of rights, not a can/cannot list of random shit.

I always comply with the law, only because it (generally) prevents their ability to use unlimited force--which for us individuals, is always an advantage.


I didn't know corpses could laugh.

We all like to talk about keyboard warriors, and false bravado, but the effect of people making statements like "molon labe" and "fuck around and find out" is effectively to lower the threshold to action. How people talk is eventually how people act.

You look at it like that and say, okay, most of these tough guys are just bullshitters that won't do nothing. But then if you're being fair, you gotta ask, what percentage have been radicalized in a dangerous way? What percentage of these statements are by people who are serious or will become serious later on?

Lets be, eh, 'un-generous' Here. 90% are tough-talkers? Sure. 95% run their yaps and won't ever act on statements about "doing something" if someone breaks down their door? I can believe that. 99%? Hell I'd even go that far, to say 99% will do absolutely nothing in the face of enforcement of openly illegal and lawless policies.
But, and this is critical, pay close attention, I would not go any further than 99%.

I think, at the limit, about 1% of the current firearm owners, specifically the arm brace owners, could and would 'do something' if the ATF tried to enforce. Scroll up and read my commentary on the J6 in this thread for why, what the mental context is informing their willingness to act. And that there is also the matter of social contagion risk, and the pressure cooker effect from all the various grievance narratives through the u.s.

People are boiling mad and now looking for more things to be mad about.

The psychological state and behaviors most associated with this have the most in common with 1. violent organized mobs, 2. riots, 3. armed insurrections, and is less favorable to 4. guerilla conflict, 5. terrorism.

it's so quiet in public right now, on the gun issue alone, you could hear a pin drop. It's so silent politically, its positively fucking spooky.

In general, people looking for things to be angry about, are already dangerously angry. The current anti-groomer / PTA flare ups, whatever aid they supposedly have from the parties (because the rumor is the parties are trying to distract from the economic issues with social issues)--all of that are symptoms. Even though they don't seem connected, they are.

We can only hope that the current state of affairs doesn't regrettably evolve into any of the worst outcomes I've outlined.
But putting on my completely-neutral-letting-go-of-all-political-preferences glasses, this is exactly what I see unfolding.

They're coming for you

It did not. Only in texas and only for members of GOA last I checked.

That was the memory-hole effect. Was only partially struck down while numerous articles breathlessly announced in the titles "brace rule struck down", leading people to believe it was national rather than for a limited group.

In effect it is just the privatization of the licensure of our rights. Don't pay the membership? "You're rights don't exist."
etc.

Lot of people said 'screw that' and disobeyed.

And even more people are walking around thinking it was struck down nationally when it wasn't as far as I know.

Instead A few tens of millions of people were converted into overnight felons.

Doesn't much matter though seeing as the regime is engaged in open lawlessness at every opportunity.
Its elections are illegitimate. Its officials are illegitimate and out of control.
One party openly loots the treasury and commits high crimes and misdemeanors, while the other is engaged in a campaign of outright soft-denying representation through acting helpless and disobeying direct mandates from voters--a grievance so serious on its own it justifies abandoning the political system entirely.

Everyone sees the general lawlessness now, the complete contempt for the public and citizens, the obvious pay-to-play two-tier justice system, and the ongoing propaganda weaponized against the public itself. They all see it and many of them are coming
to the conclusion that effectively theres no moral reason to obey the very laws the regime willfully breaks at every turn.

Basically a few tens of millions of people checked-out on obeying gun laws, because theres no clear, simple, accessible mechanism for redressing their grievances anymore, let alone striking down policies that cause irreversible grievous harm, such as having your entire family, finances, career, and life destroyed in out-of-control lawless 'courts'.

Think about how significant that is.

Millions and millions of people said to themselves "i know this will make me a felon" and then shrugged and disobeyed.

The next step in that thinking, which the state, in its creeping disintegration of our rights, stupidly didn't think through, is all these people saying 'in for a penny in for a pound.'

What the ATF and congress didn't understand is there is a difference between writing a policy and saying "you may be in serious trouble if you don't comply", versus drawing a bright red line and saying "we approved this before hand, but now we're reversing it, and if you don't comply you'll become a felon overnight."

They can walk it back and try the grandfathering clause, or hand out free or cheap tax stamps but this largely isn't going to work now because they took the spiteful step of trying to force it. It might have worked before, but in addition to rule-by-decree, they also reversed it after the fact in bad faith, rule-by-caprice which is worse, and so now they've taught the public that theres no reason to comply at all. Combine this with the GOPs utter lack of accountability or actual representation (no wonder so many are out for blood), on this issue, and you got people saying "whats the point of obeying? They get guards, but we go through the trouble of fundraising, voting, protesting for them, and they got nothing for us once they're in office. Nothing except jovial smiles and backslapping with their colleagues in the DNC and promises to fight for us, promises that they always replace with excuses."

it may not seem like it is connected, but it is. The failure of this last worst of threats, converting millions of people into felons, is precisely because before people could always back down on the assumption the courts or their party would back them up and reverse it. And if they still thought that was the case, many would have, because they could always see it being reversed later on, or some olive branch being given.

But they see the ruse and realize the olive branch has been poisoned, which is precisely why so few turned in their braces or guns or applied for the stamp.

The fact theres so little talk about this, even in spite of the memory hole, tells you this is a very dangerous issue for the regime. It's a bellwether for the support of rule-of-law.

Take that away and its not hard to see that people will be one step away from drawing the conclusion "wait a minute? These people are worse than us? They're not just criminals, they're terrorists! Why shouldn't we just form up and fight these guys?"

Thats a terrible precedent to set, and the ATF did just that.

It's subtle, the response muted, because people are deciding what to do right now. This scenario is not at all obvious to anyone whose paycheck comes from the very same letter agencies. It looks like situation normal from an outsider's perspective (outsiders being people not affected by the ruling) because the muted response is also something common to media distraction campaigns that come after an unwanted policy is forced through nationally driving the outrage cycle. But while the immediate responses are the same, whats driving them is not, and the crisis behind them is just getting started.

And if you put on your insider's shoes for a second, look at it from the perspective of anyone who owns a brace, and they're saying "it's obvious now what the game is. Disarmament. Look at all the chaos in america today. Look at the verbatim statements by officials saying they want to take guns, they want to take peoples families, they want forced vaccinations, they WANT to indoctrinate kids, they want to prosecute you if you defend yourself from mobs that try to burn down your home and kill you. They've backed us into a corner. Drawn a bright red line and said, if you give in, this is what we're gonna do to you anyway! Why should anyone obey at all?"

You could go back to 2008 and there was doubt about this. 2012. 2016, hell go back even to just 2020, and there was enough doubt to divide any organized backlash to the regime, be it the federal components, or the unelected bureaucracy.

2023-2025 is not 2020.

It has all the hallmarks for mass social contagion under the right initiating events.

And while all of the unfolding events are terrible in general and should have never come to it, if I worked for the federal government, or hell, even the state government, I would be genuinely scared for myself, and more importantly, for my family.

Just look at the parents protests of schools. A non-trivial proportion of the threats coming in against judges, police, fbi,
were by state officials themselves, for sure, but some percentage of them were undoubtedly real.

The next time theres another J6 style protest in D.C., I doubt they'll go in unarmed like they did last time. Every lesson the federal regime and its lawless courts and officers have taught the public is if you go unarmed, you'll be assaulted even when you remain peaceful, followed by being terrorized, possibly killed, or jailed, have everything stripped from you, have your life destroyed, be beaten black and blue till your bones break, starved near to death in a prison run by foreign guards, deprived of medicine, locked in a soundless room, have your attorney client privilege revoked, assigned a lawyer who actively hates you and works against you, be force-indoctrinated in 'diversion' programs where you have to renounce everything including your faith under threat of twenty years in prison if you don't cooperate, have your kids taken, your wife leave you, your property seized by the state or burned down by antifa after you're doxed by the DOJ or the leftwing police force, your family threatened with rape/murder by anonymous callers, your money for defense seized on grounds "you were provided an attorney already", have your bible taken, force injected with the covid shots, never see your kids grow up, be framed by cops who openly lie on the stand like recently happened to one J6er, attacked if you do protest, arrested if you defend yourself or others, peppersprayed or shot directly in the face with 'nonlethal' rounds point-blank till you're disfigured, your pregnant wife killed, shot point blank, if she says one wrong word like all lives matter. And if you survive, like I said, you'll languish in prison, without trial for years, while the state lets out actual murderers and rapists. All while being denied a jury of your peers, being denied the right to bring evidence, being denied the right to bring witnesses. Being denied the right to question falsified evidence. Being mocked by activist jurors who the judge refuses to kick off the jury. Having the judge explicitly tell you in so many words your fate is already decided.

This is what has happened. This is what was done to the J6 and others.

What person in the right mind would ever resort to unarmed protest every again?

What person in their right mind would ever again comply with policies that are out-in-the-open gun registries and soft-confiscations?

What person in their right mind would ever again bother voting for a party thats done fucking nothing meaningful to stop this?

I tried to warn the dumb-asses running the nation into the ground, creating this chaos, about how to keep the peace. You'd think I'd know something about that considering I'm a devout pacifist.

Instead I guess I'll be watching from a good safe distance, as they get what they fucking deserve from the american people.

From the way things are going, and from what I see, I'd bet money on it.

Just my humble opinion about the state of the nation.