Well, we won’t do it. Even though we know it’s the only thing to do, we won’t do it. And we won’t fight back when they start arresting us after they do it. So what does it matter?
Okay, enjoy white genocide. You’re incapable of comprehending anything other than the false dichotomy your enemies have handed you. You’ll continue to do what they tell you until they literally come door to door. Come on, man. It’s not that fucking hard to comprehend what to do.
That's exactly what you said. "Burn shit down and we'll have white national freedom." Only problem is that, in this country, burning shit down means burning other people's shit down.
And.joe isn't calling for you to burn kike's shit. He is "ambiguous" on the JQ. He isn't calling to burn the government's shit. I would agree with him, if he did that. He's calling to burn down hundreds of thousands of acres.
Yes, nigger, the CIA agent. Who blamed the 9-11 attacks on the American people who did nothing as our government occupied Saudi Arabia with military troops.
Not paying your taxes, which you don't owe, not getting a DL, which isn't required, and not registering your car, which also isn't required are not hate crimes. They're faggy virtue signals. If you were serious, you'd fight that shit.
When the lights go out, it's merely cover for your guys to do the true objective planned out for them to accomplish under the cover of the "darkness" that sabotaging the power in the area was meant to create for them.
Taking down the power or communication or utilities is not the objective in itself, rather it is a means to the true end that it was intended to enable.
I didn't say people would "go super nazi", I said that the purpose of knocking out infrastructure during acts of guerilla warfare is to interfere with the state's response to such acts.
Knocking out the power or communications is only a means to an end, it's providing cover in an area so that your guys could complete some operation(s) which are the actual objective of the attack.
White supremacists, lol, are never, never, ever, ever, ever going to do enough violence to innocent people to start a revolution. That's a jew scripted Hollywood fever dream movie that has been played way too many fucking times.
The solution to our problems have nothing to do with acting like fuckin niggers.
Not encouraging anything, but there is only three ways of doing anything to achieve any sort of goal: The best way, the worst way, and all other ways in between.
We may not know what the best way of getting what we want is yet, but we are certainly aware of some ways which have a better track record then others of getting goals like ours.
Actions are like people, judged retrospectively by their results, perhaps in some situation "acting like niggers" is the better approach, if not the best. You have to shed your biases in order to survey which weapons and tactics are the best for accomplishing the goals you have from the situations you find yourself in.
Pride will kill you, and in the state of the world as it is, with you in the place where you are within it, you have yet to earn a right to feel any sense of superiority to anyone else, first prove your supremacy with your actions, and once that is achieved, you have earned the right to boast about how much better you are.
Right now you are declaring yourself to be above others who stand in a position above you, it is exactly as moronic as it appears to be, and foolish, especially as it is the thing that keeps you from learning how to raise your station up from where it currently resides.
You know who talks about how superior they are by comparison to another group, despite their group being in an obviously inferior position within their societies? Conquered people who have little chance of moving their group out from that place. Native Americans do that, as did the black people whom you disparaged earlier, it's an active obstacle to them getting into a better place within their societies than where they are/were.
Conquered people who throw off their oppressors are the ones who recognize the advantages that allowed their occupiers to dominate them, and then sought to adopt those advantages for themselves, and they also recognize the flaws in themselves that contributed to their subjugation, and then went on to correct those flaws in themselves.
Show me a time where hurting innocent people worked for the better.
You think that if Native Americans (injuns) were to start scalping Americans again, they'd be better off, or completely wiped off the face of the earth?
Violence, or the threat thereof, is the root of all authority, it is at the foundation of all conflict resolution, for it is the ultimate incentive that exists with which one human could persuade another. Even the threat of withholding something, be it information or love or resources, is backed by the threat of using violence to prevent such things being extracted from them against their will (especially by force).
Our justice system is a controlled application of violence by the government for the purpose of modifying the behaviors of the people. Laws and their centralized enforcement are the basis for government, and thus all politics is quite simply down to the use of violence to organize groups of people according to rules and the will of the rulers.
Violence means that the one who exercises it best wins out, and we cannot know who that is until the conflict ends. History is full of civilizations crushing rebellions within their borders, and rebels successfully overthrowing their governments via revolution. History is full of great empires conquering the lands of less advanced peoples, and also full of them being brought low by primitive barbarian hordes. Nothing is guaranteed, it all comes down to the tactics and strategies employed by each side as well as the circumstances that surround the conflict in particular.
For the upstart insurrectionist, the revolution is like making a free throw in basketball, you could get it in, or you could not, it depends on your skill and technique, but also on your own abilities and resources, and upon the circumstances of the task.
One thing is sure, unless you have some other way of incentivizing the government to do as you wish, you will only be able to influence the government through the means available to you, and the most barbaric option, that of direct attack upon the system, is always there as an option. Indeed, chances are that your own country fully expects you to resort to domestic terror against your government if the degree of tyranny and corruption is so great that the people have no other options.
As the culture will likely side with the interests of the state, your rebellion will see you be villains in your country at the time it is being carried out, only if you win the conflict, and then go on to create a stable and prosperous nation that is an improvement upon the regime that you've replaced, will your rebels be regarded as heroes, your revolution will retroactively be given approval by most, but you must win and make things better for the people first.
Yes, this means that most heroes of history could have been villains had they failed, and even of those who succeed, they are likely destined to being remembered as villains by those who exist in time when the dominant culture became disapproving of some practice they tolerated, endorsed, or engaged in (not even Jesus Christ is safe from this shift in moral culture).
If you don't hold the revolution when there is no other way to threaten the system with negative consequences for failing to comply, or to bribe them with positive incentives to make them more compliant, then you will never be able to exert the influence you'd need to make the systematic changes you want.
All wars are hell, people will be forced to do terrible things to the undeserving, and experience the brutality of real world organized violence. Revolution should be avoided at all cost except in cases were the changes must be made and there are no other options, as all options aside from an uprising are preferable. The effectiveness of war does not do enough to justify the many downsides to it, including the risks of defeat and the risks of victory under circumstances which would see your new regime fail.
So then the question to revolution is this: "are there other ways to change the system available to us?", as we live in a democracy (or so they say), we should be able to run for office or field a candidate who would represent our interests, gather popular support for them, and enter into the world of political power. Why aren't we doing this? It's the option we should be going with before even thinking about going to war with our own governments, causes that resort directly to terrorism are usually bad ideas to begin with, with adherents too hardheaded to even listen to the reasons that people have for rejecting them.
Your worldview is so simplistic, there's more to it than what you do, there is also how and when it is done, on that track, there is also the why it is done as well. Tell me what books on strategy, history, politics, or philosophy have you read? I'd bet you are a lightweight reader, or a non-reader.
So yeah, it's risky, but that means you must measure the risk and make the decision to take the gamble or not. This is true of all things, because the future is uncertain and thus all choices are a gamble with their own risks. But failing to take the risk means forfeiting the chances of reaping the rewards that come with them. Whether you take this particular chance or not, believe me when I say that a life lived safely, where no risks are taken, is a life that is a living hell all of it's own.
Like ease, convenience, and fantasy, safety is also something that seems good at first glance, but which will eventually become the source of the worst kind of pain imaginable. While they are things which are pleasant and necessary wen taken in moderation, you do not want to live a life filled with only things such as these. You want to struggle and challenge yourself, to have things come to you by efforts and time, to face the reality if your life, and not escape into far-off images or imagination.
Electricity itself doesn't control us, so I'll have to go based on what I think you mean.
You'd take out a lot of people's communications, but I don't see why more so the government than everyone else. People don't lose their conditioning that fast. They will still obey the cops and stuff. Maybe even more than they would ordinarily because now it feels like a disaster.
It probably gets people outside, at least during the day; I'll give you that. A widespread loss of power means you don't have to worry about them being too busy at work.
Basically, every big hurricane that hits doesn't result in the breakdown of society, even though people are often without power for a long time. Katrina did but really only among niggers.
The power outage in the NE around 2001 or so would have been a good test. I don’t think it brought too much chaos. Now someone should hack the EBT system and real chaos would ensue.
Let's compare what he did to any given weekend on the south side of Chicago. Muh greatest threat, my ass. Niggers in the inner city do more damage and kill more people than any fake assed white supremacist fuckwit, put on by some fuckin' fed.
The fuckin' middle class, dickbag. The people who live paycheck to paycheck. The people who would be harmed by a power outage.
Who the fuck do you think is going to repo your house and car when you can't pay the note on them?
Jews don't need to work to make money. They get interest. And, people like Joe aren't recommending you go attack jews, now, is he? That faggot fuck won't even name the jew. He'll tell you all about the need to kill niggers, but won't mention or even entertain killing kikes to fix the system. But, he will push a book written by a pedo that contains Hollywood fantasies about how kikes think white people will react to a power outage despite white people never reacting in any such way in the history of white people.
Nigger, you not paying taxes isn't helping anything but your using it as a virtue signal. Our tax dollars don't do shit but keep inflation under control. It isn't what funds these people. How fucking stupid are you?
Driving around without a license plate is just petty. Who the fuck cares? You'll get pulled over one day and get a ticket and you'll either spend days in jail to pay the fine, or you'll pay the fine. Eventually, you'll lose your license and that will be that.
You're an easy mark. Simple as.
And, is that what you think you're doing? Real damage to communism? By not paying taxes and not getting you car registered? You're a fucking idiot.
I talk about the grid of course. But the grid is essentially a distraction I believe (not that I object to anyone taking it out). Few have the knowledge or expertise to know what to shoot at or otherwise take it out.
The real game changer is arson. Anyone can do it. Its potential for maximum damage is obvious. Fire took out half of Argentina's power recently anyway.
"You and I were fucking scammed. You were scammed. I was scammed. But it's up to us to reverse the heavy damages. Reverse meaning burn it all down." - Mike Ma, Harassment Architecture
Along with Siege Harassment Architecture is probably the accelerationist work to read. A real how-to manual for the One Man Army to destroy everything.
"Fire is also a potent guerrilla weapon." - Handbook for Volunteers of the Irish Republican Army: Notes on Guerrilla Warfare
The important thing is to think in terms of guerrilla warfare and terrorism of course. And making it count. Not the do nothing. Those that advocate the do nothing should be counted in the enemy camp imo.
“The true guerrilla is never beaten. He will never negotiate away his freedom. He will never compromise his ideals. He will never surrender.”–Anon (taken from SIEGE by James Mason)
This is gonna sound wrong, but aren't you worried about optics at all? There are morale attacks and strategic ones. Which is this supposed to be? I feel like it goes over badly as for lack of a better word terrorism. Esp. Arson because fire kills people.
Optics is just a byproduct of effectiveness. The point ultimately is what works. The only immorality is failure. As revolutionaries we deal in higher things - the highest things, so everything is allowed.
Optics is primarily important in terms of messaging. What does the US government do in response to an ultimatum that they surrender US territory for a white ethnostate or lone wolves launch a decentralized revolution burning the country down? They can't stop it. That is the decisive factor. Yes, fire kills people. But tactics, as with all terrorism, are dictated by circumstances. We can't fight them punch for punch. Their surveillance apparatus and huge advantage militarily rules that out immediately. This means hit and run. High impact attacks that have less chance of being detected.
I recall Sen. Bilbo saying in the 40s that he preferred nuclear incineration to mongrelization. I've always agreed with that. But nuclear war is passive, another spectator sport. More do nothing for us. Burning it all down though allows for and requires active participation.
My point is that hitting power substations looks like you're attacking the people who use the power; not the government. So it seems like a bad optics move. It could be a good strategic move, but I wouldn't play it for support. I feel like some people are saying this is how you start a war. It seems to me this would be later on.
I'm not even talking about hitting power substations, but offering an alternative, more feasible, arson strategy. But you don't seem to understand the rationale behind terror tactics in terms of affecting people's livelihoods. The point of these attacks is to draw attention to the cause of the revolutionaries conducting the attacks. To message that the attacks will stop if their demands are met. To make people uncomfortable. And to force the government to react to try and stop the attacks, which tends to also piss people off. Discomfort forces people off the fence.
At this point there are enough people that hate our criminal government that even if they were pissed that people were knocking out their power they'd still have a hard time sympathizing with the government. If something like the Baltimore grid had been knocked out that would also have probably have been on par with 9-11. This gives the revolutionary movement a seriousness and legitimacy that tends to make the symbolism it vs. the government. Which means more people get involved in the revolutionary movement.
The point of these attacks is to draw attention to the cause of the revolutionaries conducting the attacks. To message that the attacks will stop if their demands are met.
I understand now.
As long as the place doesn't become like Ukraine. I feel like those guys are now fighting over a toxic waste dump. Even without the uranium, seems like the whole country has been destroyed. I don't bring it up idly; that conflict started as certain of them trying to separate from the Kiev government.
You and I were fucking scammed. You were scammed. I was scammed.
When you're scammed, do you go after the people who scammed you? Or, do you go after all the other victims of the scam and make them pay for you being scammed? Burning your neighbor's house down isn't going to remedy that you got scammed. Nor, is turning out his lights.
We ain't niggers. We ain't gonna go the way that your pedo idol imagines.
Those that advocate the do nothing should be counted in the enemy camp imo.
No one is advocating "do nothing" ya fuckin' faggot. I'm saying that white people don't go fuck their neighbor over because we are too lazy to actually go after the people who hurt us. We aren't ISIS sand niggers that worship a pedo profit like Mason or Mohammed.
In the southern reaches of the US especially we have a horrendous interracial fucking problem among the whites that count, those under 30. Plenty of 'innocent people' doing it too. Your solution to this, such as it is, is vague platitudes about the rule of law and bitching about Jews.
Your talking points are all retarded. They don't address anything important. But then that is the point. You don't intend to address anything credibly. You're not even a good faith poster.
Terror though is mostly about acquiring territory. In this case territory for a white ethnostate. Once that is acquired we can begin getting back on our feet as a race. And if the US regime won't give it to us we can burn the whole country down in retaliation. I am very comfortable with that. This is war and I play for keeps.
Nigger, go read the DoI. Read about what gave our forefathers the legitimate authority to declare independence from the British Empire. Our forefathers didn't decide that the king sucked, so the best way forward was to start burning people's houses down. To cut off the lights and communications for businesses. To make people suffer to demonstrate that the Brits are incompetent. That is nigger shit and won't do shit. If you're the victim of a crime, file charges. If you're harmed, sue. You have no legit authority to harm innocent people in a dumb fuck nigger attempt to poke at the government.
And, are you actually going to do anything? No. You aren't actually going to do what you advocate others to do in your stead. You're a fucking coward in that regards. Don't you be worrying about "those under 30". They are going to take your shit away from you because you let the country get this bad. You fucking boomers fucked this country up to the point of it being almost unrecognizable, now you want those under 30 to provide a way for the criminals that did this to everyone an easy escape in the flames and ruble of the country you helped destroy.
The non-violent solution is to declare the debt void, arrest those that did harm to the country, and take away all the proceeds from their crimes. Countries have done this, worldwide, with great success. Iceland is a fine example. Make "110" a thing. Bring back segregation. Don't force people to tolerate niggers. Stop the welfare. Stop the paying people to not work. Restore the system of letting those who can achieve, achieve.
The American Revolution was in the 1700s. I'm interested in the now. In reality. 'Declaring the debt void' does nothing about white genocide. We need a white revolution. That means a white society ruled by white nationalists. A revolutionary government. And that means we need territory for whites to call sovereign. Whether they're already there or move to it. The ones that don't can continue in the interracial fuckfest. The whole country will be an interracial fuckfest at the rate we're going though. We have no territory. No control of borders. No hope. All is demoralization within the union that is the United States of America.
You offer no solution. Non-violently reimplementing segregation is particularly amusing. Not that we want niggers around anyway. And not that segregation was ever anything other than a bandaid solution even when it did exist.
It'd probably take no more than a few dozen people to burn much of the country down. Maybe less. Whether I'd personally take part is not something I'll say. For all you know I already am. But the idea itself can spread and thus lead to action. What I do is neither here nor there in a real sense.
You're "interested in now", yet you post IRA bullshit from the 80's that didn't accomplish shit other than leave Brit citizens completely disarmed and being sent to jail over "hate speech" while the UK is being flooded with muzzie niggers, and a fever dream fantasy book from a pedo author that reads like a jew written Hollywood script that mostly demonizes white people as unnecessarily violent and stupid. The solutions I've suggested worked well in Iceland only a few decades ago, whereas you're solution hasn't worked in a single white country in the history of white people.
While many of us believe that we need a white country run by white nationalists, there isn't remotely enough popular sentiment to make that happen, and no one is going to increase that popular sentiment by targeting innocent people. Of all the alleged "white supremacist" shooters, Russell and Roof are the only ones that shot up blacks. All the other fed backed faggots shot up white people. But look what the fed backed Russell accomplished. Not a fucking thing. Roof did fairly good, but he didn't start any kind of revolution now, did he? He's not much more than a meme and his notoriety is quickly diminishing. And, again, neither of these two did the damage seen every weekend in shithole nigger cities.
And of all the people calling for a "white nation," you're the jewy-est dick sucker here. You refuse to make the jew. You refuse to acknowledge that the jews are flooding this country with niggers and incan spics. And, while you'll point the finger at the muzzie horde being flooded into this country, you won't say shit about the kike fucks doing the flooding. The kikes flood white countries with nigger muzzies and you're solution is to fight the horde and ignore the driving force of the horde.
A few dozen people won't and can't do shit through violence in a country ofvl 350 million. That's a fever dream fantasy that you're pedo idol has put into your head and hasn't been shown to work anywhere in the world, ever.
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[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 06:41:30 ago (+0/-1)
The people aren't willingly complicit in the crimes being committed against them.
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[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsJun 2, 2023 10:59:05 ago (+0/-1)
Order out of Chaos is a SATANIC strategy. A filthy kike fuck strategy. It isn't a way forward. It's a path to your own destruction, ya dumb fool.
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"If I hurt enough people, the I people I hurt will be free."
It's just plain dumb.
Which one of the 109 was the expulsion accomplished by burning innocent people and their property to the ground?
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And.joe isn't calling for you to burn kike's shit. He is "ambiguous" on the JQ. He isn't calling to burn the government's shit. I would agree with him,
if he did that. He's calling to burn down hundreds of thousands of acres.
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Ya dumb fuckin' idiot.
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Taking down the power or communication or utilities is not the objective in itself, rather it is a means to the true end that it was intended to enable.
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No one is gonna go super Nazi just because the power has gone out. You fucking boomers with your dumb assed Hollywood fantasies.
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Knocking out the power or communications is only a means to an end, it's providing cover in an area so that your guys could complete some operation(s) which are the actual objective of the attack.
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The solution to our problems have nothing to do with acting like fuckin niggers.
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We may not know what the best way of getting what we want is yet, but we are certainly aware of some ways which have a better track record then others of getting goals like ours.
Actions are like people, judged retrospectively by their results, perhaps in some situation "acting like niggers" is the better approach, if not the best. You have to shed your biases in order to survey which weapons and tactics are the best for accomplishing the goals you have from the situations you find yourself in.
Pride will kill you, and in the state of the world as it is, with you in the place where you are within it, you have yet to earn a right to feel any sense of superiority to anyone else, first prove your supremacy with your actions, and once that is achieved, you have earned the right to boast about how much better you are.
Right now you are declaring yourself to be above others who stand in a position above you, it is exactly as moronic as it appears to be, and foolish, especially as it is the thing that keeps you from learning how to raise your station up from where it currently resides.
You know who talks about how superior they are by comparison to another group, despite their group being in an obviously inferior position within their societies? Conquered people who have little chance of moving their group out from that place. Native Americans do that, as did the black people whom you disparaged earlier, it's an active obstacle to them getting into a better place within their societies than where they are/were.
Conquered people who throw off their oppressors are the ones who recognize the advantages that allowed their occupiers to dominate them, and then sought to adopt those advantages for themselves, and they also recognize the flaws in themselves that contributed to their subjugation, and then went on to correct those flaws in themselves.
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You think that if Native Americans (injuns) were to start scalping Americans again, they'd be better off, or completely wiped off the face of the earth?
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Our justice system is a controlled application of violence by the government for the purpose of modifying the behaviors of the people. Laws and their centralized enforcement are the basis for government, and thus all politics is quite simply down to the use of violence to organize groups of people according to rules and the will of the rulers.
Violence means that the one who exercises it best wins out, and we cannot know who that is until the conflict ends. History is full of civilizations crushing rebellions within their borders, and rebels successfully overthrowing their governments via revolution. History is full of great empires conquering the lands of less advanced peoples, and also full of them being brought low by primitive barbarian hordes. Nothing is guaranteed, it all comes down to the tactics and strategies employed by each side as well as the circumstances that surround the conflict in particular.
For the upstart insurrectionist, the revolution is like making a free throw in basketball, you could get it in, or you could not, it depends on your skill and technique, but also on your own abilities and resources, and upon the circumstances of the task.
One thing is sure, unless you have some other way of incentivizing the government to do as you wish, you will only be able to influence the government through the means available to you, and the most barbaric option, that of direct attack upon the system, is always there as an option. Indeed, chances are that your own country fully expects you to resort to domestic terror against your government if the degree of tyranny and corruption is so great that the people have no other options.
As the culture will likely side with the interests of the state, your rebellion will see you be villains in your country at the time it is being carried out, only if you win the conflict, and then go on to create a stable and prosperous nation that is an improvement upon the regime that you've replaced, will your rebels be regarded as heroes, your revolution will retroactively be given approval by most, but you must win and make things better for the people first.
Yes, this means that most heroes of history could have been villains had they failed, and even of those who succeed, they are likely destined to being remembered as villains by those who exist in time when the dominant culture became disapproving of some practice they tolerated, endorsed, or engaged in (not even Jesus Christ is safe from this shift in moral culture).
If you don't hold the revolution when there is no other way to threaten the system with negative consequences for failing to comply, or to bribe them with positive incentives to make them more compliant, then you will never be able to exert the influence you'd need to make the systematic changes you want.
All wars are hell, people will be forced to do terrible things to the undeserving, and experience the brutality of real world organized violence. Revolution should be avoided at all cost except in cases were the changes must be made and there are no other options, as all options aside from an uprising are preferable. The effectiveness of war does not do enough to justify the many downsides to it, including the risks of defeat and the risks of victory under circumstances which would see your new regime fail.
So then the question to revolution is this: "are there other ways to change the system available to us?", as we live in a democracy (or so they say), we should be able to run for office or field a candidate who would represent our interests, gather popular support for them, and enter into the world of political power. Why aren't we doing this? It's the option we should be going with before even thinking about going to war with our own governments, causes that resort directly to terrorism are usually bad ideas to begin with, with adherents too hardheaded to even listen to the reasons that people have for rejecting them.
Your worldview is so simplistic, there's more to it than what you do, there is also how and when it is done, on that track, there is also the why it is done as well. Tell me what books on strategy, history, politics, or philosophy have you read?
I'd bet you are a lightweight reader, or a non-reader.
So yeah, it's risky, but that means you must measure the risk and make the decision to take the gamble or not. This is true of all things, because the future is uncertain and thus all choices are a gamble with their own risks. But failing to take the risk means forfeiting the chances of reaping the rewards that come with them. Whether you take this particular chance or not, believe me when I say that a life lived safely, where no risks are taken, is a life that is a living hell all of it's own.
Like ease, convenience, and fantasy, safety is also something that seems good at first glance, but which will eventually become the source of the worst kind of pain imaginable. While they are things which are pleasant and necessary wen taken in moderation, you do not want to live a life filled with only things such as these. You want to struggle and challenge yourself, to have things come to you by efforts and time, to face the reality if your life, and not escape into far-off images or imagination.
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You'd take out a lot of people's communications, but I don't see why more so the government than everyone else. People don't lose their conditioning that fast. They will still obey the cops and stuff. Maybe even more than they would ordinarily because now it feels like a disaster.
It probably gets people outside, at least during the day; I'll give you that. A widespread loss of power means you don't have to worry about them being too busy at work.
Basically, every big hurricane that hits doesn't result in the breakdown of society, even though people are often without power for a long time. Katrina did but really only among niggers.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 22:39:59 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 21:03:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Cantaloupe
[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 16:21:45 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.youtube.com/live/SAETS6CUuW8?feature=share
Effective change has been accomplished before. You don't get there by fight with the powerless.
You need an effective proven plan, that doesn't matter if the plan is well known, and infiltrated.
For example boycotting bud-lite; there's nothing they can do about it.
Not buying the guys books though.
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 16:17:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 21:04:12 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 17:09:12 ago (+0/-1)
Cut the power and we will lose income until it gets fixed.
[ + ] SteppingRazor
[ - ] SteppingRazor 2 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 22:59:40 ago (+2/-0)
Now someone should hack the EBT system and real chaos would ensue.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 23:26:13 ago (+1/-0)
No one expects white suburbanites to start looting and gangbanging in the dark. That's why Brandon Russell targeted Baltimore, not Montpelier.
[ + ] SteppingRazor
[ - ] SteppingRazor 1 point 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 22:02:53 ago (+1/-0)
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/blackout-hits-northeast-united-states
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 06:55:52 ago (+0/-1)
How much chaos did he stir up?
Let's compare what he did to any given weekend on the south side of Chicago. Muh greatest threat, my ass. Niggers in the inner city do more damage and kill more people than any fake assed white supremacist fuckwit, put on by some fuckin' fed.
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 18:45:18 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 06:42:45 ago (+0/-1)*
Who the fuck do you think is going to repo your house and car when you can't pay the note on them?
Jews don't need to work to make money. They get interest. And, people like Joe aren't recommending you go attack jews, now, is he? That faggot fuck won't even name the jew. He'll tell you all about the need to kill niggers, but won't mention or even entertain killing kikes to fix the system. But, he will push a book written by a pedo that contains Hollywood fantasies about how kikes think white people will react to a power outage despite white people never reacting in any such way in the history of white people.
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 08:31:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 08:36:01 ago (+0/-1)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 08:40:28 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 08:44:17 ago (+0/-1)
But, I don't believe you.
You're making yourself an easy mark.
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 08:47:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 08:52:55 ago (+0/-1)
Driving around without a license plate is just petty. Who the fuck cares? You'll get pulled over one day and get a ticket and you'll either spend days in jail to pay the fine, or you'll pay the fine. Eventually, you'll lose your license and that will be that.
You're an easy mark. Simple as.
And, is that what you think you're doing? Real damage to communism? By not paying taxes and not getting you car registered? You're a fucking idiot.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 17:06:20 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 18:33:20 ago (+1/-0)*
The real game changer is arson. Anyone can do it. Its potential for maximum damage is obvious. Fire took out half of Argentina's power recently anyway.
"You and I were fucking scammed. You were scammed. I was scammed. But it's up to us to reverse the heavy damages. Reverse meaning burn it all down." - Mike Ma, Harassment Architecture
Along with Siege Harassment Architecture is probably the accelerationist work to read. A real how-to manual for the One Man Army to destroy everything.
"Fire is also a potent guerrilla weapon." - Handbook for Volunteers of the Irish Republican Army: Notes on Guerrilla Warfare
https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-areas/counterterrorism/isis-video-urges-arson-as-five-star-terror-tactic-shows-california-burning/
The important thing is to think in terms of guerrilla warfare and terrorism of course. And making it count. Not the do nothing. Those that advocate the do nothing should be counted in the enemy camp imo.
“The true guerrilla is never beaten. He will never negotiate away his freedom. He will never compromise his ideals. He will never surrender.”–Anon (taken from SIEGE by James Mason)
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 21:06:49 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 21:39:26 ago (+1/-0)*
Optics is primarily important in terms of messaging. What does the US government do in response to an ultimatum that they surrender US territory for a white ethnostate or lone wolves launch a decentralized revolution burning the country down? They can't stop it. That is the decisive factor. Yes, fire kills people. But tactics, as with all terrorism, are dictated by circumstances. We can't fight them punch for punch. Their surveillance apparatus and huge advantage militarily rules that out immediately. This means hit and run. High impact attacks that have less chance of being detected.
I recall Sen. Bilbo saying in the 40s that he preferred nuclear incineration to mongrelization. I've always agreed with that. But nuclear war is passive, another spectator sport. More do nothing for us. Burning it all down though allows for and requires active participation.
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 22:47:24 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 23:02:34 ago (+0/-0)*
At this point there are enough people that hate our criminal government that even if they were pissed that people were knocking out their power they'd still have a hard time sympathizing with the government. If something like the Baltimore grid had been knocked out that would also have probably have been on par with 9-11. This gives the revolutionary movement a seriousness and legitimacy that tends to make the symbolism it vs. the government. Which means more people get involved in the revolutionary movement.
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 11 monthsMay 31, 2023 23:33:44 ago (+0/-0)
I understand now.
As long as the place doesn't become like Ukraine. I feel like those guys are now fighting over a toxic waste dump. Even without the uranium, seems like the whole country has been destroyed. I don't bring it up idly; that conflict started as certain of them trying to separate from the Kiev government.
[ + ] Sleazy
[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 11:13:01 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 11 monthsJun 6, 2023 16:21:43 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 06:50:35 ago (+0/-0)
When you're scammed, do you go after the people who scammed you? Or, do you go after all the other victims of the scam and make them pay for you being scammed? Burning your neighbor's house down isn't going to remedy that you got scammed. Nor, is turning out his lights.
We ain't niggers. We ain't gonna go the way that your pedo idol imagines.
No one is advocating "do nothing" ya fuckin' faggot. I'm saying that white people don't go fuck their neighbor over because we are too lazy to actually go after the people who hurt us. We aren't ISIS sand niggers that worship a pedo profit like Mason or Mohammed.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 07:02:18 ago (+0/-0)*
Your talking points are all retarded. They don't address anything important. But then that is the point. You don't intend to address anything credibly. You're not even a good faith poster.
Terror though is mostly about acquiring territory. In this case territory for a white ethnostate. Once that is acquired we can begin getting back on our feet as a race. And if the US regime won't give it to us we can burn the whole country down in retaliation. I am very comfortable with that. This is war and I play for keeps.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 07:32:01 ago (+0/-0)
And, are you actually going to do anything? No. You aren't actually going to do what you advocate others to do in your stead. You're a fucking coward in that regards. Don't you be worrying about "those under 30". They are going to take your shit away from you because you let the country get this bad. You fucking boomers fucked this country up to the point of it being almost unrecognizable, now you want those under 30 to provide a way for the criminals that did this to everyone an easy escape in the flames and ruble of the country you helped destroy.
The non-violent solution is to declare the debt void, arrest those that did harm to the country, and take away all the proceeds from their crimes. Countries have done this, worldwide, with great success. Iceland is a fine example. Make "110" a thing. Bring back segregation. Don't force people to tolerate niggers. Stop the welfare. Stop the paying people to not work. Restore the system of letting those who can achieve, achieve.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 07:42:38 ago (+1/-0)*
'Declaring the debt void' does nothing about white genocide. We need a white revolution. That means a white society ruled by white nationalists. A revolutionary government. And that means we need territory for whites to call sovereign. Whether they're already there or move to it. The ones that don't can continue in the interracial fuckfest. The whole country will be an interracial fuckfest at the rate we're going though. We have no territory. No control of borders. No hope. All is demoralization within the union that is the United States of America.
You offer no solution. Non-violently reimplementing segregation is particularly amusing. Not that we want niggers around anyway. And not that segregation was ever anything other than a bandaid solution even when it did exist.
It'd probably take no more than a few dozen people to burn much of the country down. Maybe less. Whether I'd personally take part is not something I'll say. For all you know I already am. But the idea itself can spread and thus lead to action. What I do is neither here nor there in a real sense.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 11 monthsJun 1, 2023 08:17:41 ago (+0/-1)
While many of us believe that we need a white country run by white nationalists, there isn't remotely enough popular sentiment to make that happen, and no one is going to increase that popular sentiment by targeting innocent people. Of all the alleged "white supremacist" shooters, Russell and Roof are the only ones that shot up blacks. All the other fed backed faggots shot up white people. But look what the fed backed Russell accomplished. Not a fucking thing. Roof did fairly good, but he didn't start any kind of revolution now, did he? He's not much more than a meme and his notoriety is quickly diminishing. And, again, neither of these two did the damage seen every weekend in shithole nigger cities.
And of all the people calling for a "white nation," you're the jewy-est dick sucker here. You refuse to make the jew. You refuse to acknowledge that the jews are flooding this country with niggers and incan spics. And, while you'll point the finger at the muzzie horde being flooded into this country, you won't say shit about the kike fucks doing the flooding. The kikes flood white countries with nigger muzzies and you're solution is to fight the horde and ignore the driving force of the horde.
A few dozen people won't and can't do shit through violence in a country ofvl 350 million. That's a fever dream fantasy that you're pedo idol has put into your head and hasn't been shown to work anywhere in the world, ever.