I think he had a nuanced view of Christianity and appreciated certain cultural aspects of it. For example according to The Greatest Story Never Told he was in a church when he saw and was inspired by the symbol of a swastika. You can't imagine being in his shoes in that moment without feeling some sense of fondness for Christianity. But he also understood it's origins and understood the implications of that part. He knew about the original White religion of Germany that arose from the people naturally and understood the collective human need that fulfills and the strength it brings.
His approach reflects all those truths and he meant to address the religion problem once Germany was secure. We'll likely never know what he had planned, only that it wasn't atheism.
Im kinda agnostic about his christianity. Ive seen conflicting accounts of his beliefs. Of course he may have had views that changed over time like the rest of us.
Same. That's just my best guess based on what I've read and seen around here. I'm sure his views changed over time.
It's wild how getting into this stuff I didn't give the religion side of things and especially Christianity much thought, it seemed irrelevant to the whole race thing. But the more I've learned it keeps getting more and more related to the whole struggle.
I can’t remember if youre an atheist or not. Honestly I do tailor my answers a bit based on whether someone is or isnt. You get the atheist version.
Religion is just a programmed behavior that allows us to run our societies in an efficient way with out everyone just doing as they please like a pack of niggers. I think the narrative are incidental. Does it matter if there are one god or many? If we worship an aryan god or a hebrew one? What matters is the effect it has on society. Christianity embraced monogamy and more or less banned slavery. Islam did the opposite. One led to nice countries, the other led to shithole countries.
Doctrinal differences between sects can lead to policy differences which can lead to dramatic behavioral differences over time, which are genetic.
And really, government and religion are not separate. They come from the same place. Religion is the reason you behave morally. Morals are there for the welfare of the tribe/nation. The basis of all law is morals (ideally, unless you live in a tyranny that hates you) . The new religion is “Government is magic and will fix unfairness”, effectively promising to end the struggle of evolution and bring about utopia— which is the sort of bullshit you believe if you run the government or live off it. Everybody’s got a religion and its function in society is deeply linked to politics. I used to wonder why protestants and catholics fought so many wars— no longer. Its all politics. Can you get a divorce? Politics. Do you obey the Pope? Politics. Do you read Gods law for yourself or let some guy interpret it for you? Politics.
Read Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin. Hitler accepted about 5% of the bible at face value. He believed Joseph and Moses were evil kike subversives who bled Egypt dry and genocided them on the way out. He believed most of the OT was a warning against jews and shapeshifter Saul was there to subvert Jesus' movement. He rejected the 10 commandments and wasn't strictly monotheistic.
Basically, his christianity was almost entirely different from the mainstream versions of the jewish control scheme.
Yeah Ive seen enough of his quotes to say he didnt have a strictly traditional undersanding of christianity. He believed there was an evil jewish elte that were parasitizing commoners during christ’s time.
[ - ] Name 2 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 19:11:14 ago (+2/-0)
“there was an evil jewish elte that were parasitizing commoners during christ’s time.”
That is the strictly traditional understanding of Christianity. The dude flipped over the tables with the money on it and one week later was put to death. That was the culminating moment of the entire Bible and is one of the most obfuscated things about it.
That's definitely the interpretation that critics of jews tend to take, and Hitler seemed to believe that Jesus was a rebellion against the people that most of the rest of the bible was about, which would make him a good guy. If that's the case, cool - but in that case, what the hell was Jesus? If he was not the one prophesized by Isaiah, if he was not the fulfillment of the blessing of Abraham, then what was he? An Aryan avatar of the old Gods of Sumeria? A buddha? An esotericist working reality manipulation through his power in the spiritual realm, trying to free his people from jews? The one true prophet of a God who never sent another prophet?
Personally, I find it easier to believe that he is the fulfillment of the Abrahamic curse upon humanity. As Abraham was promised that his descendants would one day rule many nations, as his great-grandson Joseph took over Egypt and ruled from behind the Pharaoh despite not being Egyptian, Jesus came to give the jews a vehicle to rule many nations, as Mohammad and Marx would do centuries later.
But I will admit, the jews like to hide truths in their lies and control their own opposition, so it's not entirely implausible that if Jesus was a good guy who tried to overthrow them, they'd make an entire religion teaching people to empower jews in his name as revenge.
I listened to the audiobook of The Lightning and the Sun. I disagree with him on Akhenaton but it was still an interesting listen. I'm working on one of Miguel Serrano's books right now which is in kinda the same direction.
[ - ] Name 0 points 1.9 yearsMay 31, 2023 04:14:49 ago (+0/-0)*
“Ive never seen christians espouse that before.“. Because Christians are pretty fucked up in the head now. You have to go back before Vatican II, back to Hitler’s time, to understand his mindset. Hitler sang in the choir in a Catholic Church when he was a child. He was a smart fellow. He must have been well aware that the official doctrine of the Catholic Church regarding the Jews (at that time) was “You shall not harm the Jew but you shall not allow them to subvert your society.” Literal words right out of the pope’s mouth. It was widely accepted back then the Jews would take control of your country through Usery if you allowed them to. Every intelligent person at the time was aware that that was a significant part of European history.
Catholic Church was once pretty bad ass but they really screwed up when they stopped letting priests marry. That’s what led to the disproportionate amount of faggots in the church because it was the only place where you could lay low as a gay man. This was a situation that was exploited by the Jews through the process of Vatican II to corrupt the entire church. As they say, “the smoke of Satan has entered the church.“ Current pope is also quite likely part of that highrolling international pedophile ring. There was once a time when bishops used to lead armies into battle and I don’t know that that will ever happen again.
It’s tough to read about this because the Patriarchs have such a long complicated history and the Traditional Catholics will write an 800 page book that could’ve been 150 pages just to make sure they didn’t miss anything.
A lot of people are so prejudiced against the Catholics that they refused to look into any of it. And I can kind of understand that mindset. Maybe the Protestants could look to the title of Martin Luther’s last book that he authored, and start from there. Wasn’t it called something like “On Jews and Their Lies.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies I had fun reading the Wikipedia entry. Lots of talking in circles like the planets orbiting the sun. You should be able to read between the lines though. Or better yet read the book itself.
Catholic Church was once pretty bad ass but they really screwed up when they stopped letting priests marry. That’s what led to the disproportionate amount of faggots in the church because it was the only place where you could lay low as a gay man.
What time period are you talking about? 1000AD?
Allowing priests to marry is dysgenic. The cohenim and many other castes of priests and bureacrats have become evil over time because they become endogamous and begin to breed for traits which make them more efficient at enriching themselves at the expense of the laity. A vow of poverty would be in direct conflict with a priests ability to support a wife children. Poverty/celibacy is the only guarantee against priests becoming like cohenims, brahmins, druids, mandarins and many ther corrupt castes. Priests will become social parasites if you let them breed. They will evolve to exploit their niche.
The church was probably the best place for homos. You dont want them living in the community. You want them sequestered.
I think the Catholic church had some really good stuff which protestants just chucked. Protestants wanted to chuck the hierarchy of the vatican which was corrupt and political. They went straight to the “source,” as it were, for their authority. But I think they failed to recognized that much of the book itself is immoral, and written by immoral priests. Alot of catholic theology was actually better moral guidance than the bible. Thats my take anyway.
you might want to look up that full quote. it's easy to find. it's about telling catholics and protestants to stop the idiotic religious infighting because nat socialism is a political movement, not a religious movement.
[ - ] hitlerist 1 point 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 16:13:27 ago (+2/-1)
This is like making a collage of Trump quotes about building walls, sending them back and locking her up, in that it ignores everything he actually did in power afterwards, which was the total opposite.
[ - ] Sector7 1 point 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 16:45:41 ago (+1/-0)
Was going to say people can build their own cabins, but most left would likely live in a structure that currently exists, if any in their area still remain. A strong enough CME would burn every structure containing electrical wires. Nukes would mainly wreck the larger cities, leaving small towns mostly intact.
Then, if they can self-regulate enough to avoid overpopulating again, could go on indefinitely.
from Late Latin Saxonem, accusative of Saxo (“a Saxon”), both from Proto-West Germanic sahs, from Proto-Germanic sahsą (“rock, knife”), from Proto-Indo-European *sek- (“to cut”).
Isaac
from Latin Isaac, from Ancient Greek Ἰσαάκ (Isaák), from Hebrew יצחק (Yiṣḥāq, literally “he laughs, he will laugh”).
Hitler followed the example of Napoleon, make of that what you will, he almost certainly pulled the machiavellian views on religion from is predecessor as well.
When most of your population is some form of Christian, and your culture is steeped in Christianity, and Christianity is still a major influence in the world, attacking Christianity is only going to lead to your regime's replacement.
The French post-revolutionary government failed in part due to how they were edgy fedoras that were telling most of the people in their country, including most of the men fighting for their cause, that their religion was false and that they were going to get rid of it.
Christians protect jews at the expense of the White Race. If there were ever a valid reason to disparage someone, it's for the reason that Christians are race traitors.
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[ - ] Kozel 7 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 16:11:47 ago (+10/-3)
If he intended to control a largely Christian population why would he denounce Christianity?
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[ - ] SecretHitler 6 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 22:13:00 ago (+6/-0)
His approach reflects all those truths and he meant to address the religion problem once Germany was secure. We'll likely never know what he had planned, only that it wasn't atheism.
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[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 1, 2023 11:17:50 ago (+0/-0)
It's wild how getting into this stuff I didn't give the religion side of things and especially Christianity much thought, it seemed irrelevant to the whole race thing. But the more I've learned it keeps getting more and more related to the whole struggle.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 1, 2023 11:52:59 ago (+0/-0)
Religion is just a programmed behavior that allows us to run our societies in an efficient way with out everyone just doing as they please like a pack of niggers. I think the narrative are incidental. Does it matter if there are one god or many? If we worship an aryan god or a hebrew one? What matters is the effect it has on society. Christianity embraced monogamy and more or less banned slavery. Islam did the opposite. One led to nice countries, the other led to shithole countries.
Doctrinal differences between sects can lead to policy differences which can lead to dramatic behavioral differences over time, which are genetic.
And really, government and religion are not separate. They come from the same place. Religion is the reason you behave morally. Morals are there for the welfare of the tribe/nation. The basis of all law is morals (ideally, unless you live in a tyranny that hates you) . The new religion is “Government is magic and will fix unfairness”, effectively promising to end the struggle of evolution and bring about utopia— which is the sort of bullshit you believe if you run the government or live off it. Everybody’s got a religion and its function in society is deeply linked to politics. I used to wonder why protestants and catholics fought so many wars— no longer. Its all politics. Can you get a divorce? Politics. Do you obey the Pope? Politics. Do you read Gods law for yourself or let some guy interpret it for you? Politics.
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Basically, his christianity was almost entirely different from the mainstream versions of the jewish control scheme.
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[ + ] Name
[ - ] Name 2 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 19:11:14 ago (+2/-0)
That is the strictly traditional understanding of Christianity. The dude flipped over the tables with the money on it and one week later was put to death. That was the culminating moment of the entire Bible and is one of the most obfuscated things about it.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 20:23:57 ago (+1/-0)
Personally, I find it easier to believe that he is the fulfillment of the Abrahamic curse upon humanity. As Abraham was promised that his descendants would one day rule many nations, as his great-grandson Joseph took over Egypt and ruled from behind the Pharaoh despite not being Egyptian, Jesus came to give the jews a vehicle to rule many nations, as Mohammad and Marx would do centuries later.
But I will admit, the jews like to hide truths in their lies and control their own opposition, so it's not entirely implausible that if Jesus was a good guy who tried to overthrow them, they'd make an entire religion teaching people to empower jews in his name as revenge.
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[ - ] Name 0 points 1.9 yearsMay 31, 2023 04:14:49 ago (+0/-0)*
Catholic Church was once pretty bad ass but they really screwed up when they stopped letting priests marry. That’s what led to the disproportionate amount of faggots in the church because it was the only place where you could lay low as a gay man. This was a situation that was exploited by the Jews through the process of Vatican II to corrupt the entire church. As they say, “the smoke of Satan has entered the church.“ Current pope is also quite likely part of that highrolling international pedophile ring. There was once a time when bishops used to lead armies into battle and I don’t know that that will ever happen again.
It’s tough to read about this because the Patriarchs have such a long complicated history and the Traditional Catholics will write an 800 page book that could’ve been 150 pages just to make sure they didn’t miss anything.
A lot of people are so prejudiced against the Catholics that they refused to look into any of it. And I can kind of understand that mindset. Maybe the Protestants could look to the title of Martin Luther’s last book that he authored, and start from there. Wasn’t it called something like “On Jews and Their Lies.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies I had fun reading the Wikipedia entry. Lots of talking in circles like the planets orbiting the sun. You should be able to read between the lines though. Or better yet read the book itself.
At any rate; Hail The Kaiser
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.9 yearsMay 31, 2023 08:48:06 ago (+0/-0)
What time period are you talking about? 1000AD?
Allowing priests to marry is dysgenic. The cohenim and many other castes of priests and bureacrats have become evil over time because they become endogamous and begin to breed for traits which make them more efficient at enriching themselves at the expense of the laity. A vow of poverty would be in direct conflict with a priests ability to support a wife children. Poverty/celibacy is the only guarantee against priests becoming like cohenims, brahmins, druids, mandarins and many ther corrupt castes. Priests will become social parasites if you let them breed. They will evolve to exploit their niche.
The church was probably the best place for homos. You dont want them living in the community. You want them sequestered.
I think the Catholic church had some really good stuff which protestants just chucked. Protestants wanted to chuck the hierarchy of the vatican which was corrupt and political. They went straight to the “source,” as it were, for their authority. But I think they failed to recognized that much of the book itself is immoral, and written by immoral priests. Alot of catholic theology was actually better moral guidance than the bible. Thats my take anyway.
I am aware of Luther’s jewish position.
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
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[ - ] UncleDoug 3 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 14:52:18 ago (+7/-4)
He can't change the perspective and culture around a two millennia old jew psyop overnight.
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[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist -1 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 15:14:26 ago (+3/-4)
how many thousands of years would you like to do this dance for?
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 1 point 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 16:45:41 ago (+1/-0)
Then, if they can self-regulate enough to avoid overpopulating again, could go on indefinitely.
[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist 1 point 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 16:48:07 ago (+1/-0)
It's a trick.
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Not even close.
Saxon
from Late Latin Saxonem, accusative of Saxo (“a Saxon”), both from Proto-West Germanic sahs, from Proto-Germanic sahsą (“rock, knife”), from Proto-Indo-European *sek- (“to cut”).
Isaac
from Latin Isaac, from Ancient Greek Ἰσαάκ (Isaák), from Hebrew יצחק (Yiṣḥāq, literally “he laughs, he will laugh”).
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[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 22:54:30 ago (+0/-0)*
When most of your population is some form of Christian, and your culture is steeped in Christianity, and Christianity is still a major influence in the world, attacking Christianity is only going to lead to your regime's replacement.
The French post-revolutionary government failed in part due to how they were edgy fedoras that were telling most of the people in their country, including most of the men fighting for their cause, that their religion was false and that they were going to get rid of it.
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[ - ] PhantomXLII -4 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 16:44:08 ago (+1/-5)
It's satisfying, knowing they get to die for their sins.
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[ - ] PhantomXLII -4 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 18:24:20 ago (+0/-4)
You just get to die. So, you can kill yourself now, or you can wait a little bit. Your call.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 1.9 yearsMay 30, 2023 18:46:31 ago (+1/-1)
If there were ever a valid reason to disparage someone, it's for the reason that Christians are race traitors.
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