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Abraham respecters of Voat. How do you say you worship a loving god when he torments people in hell for all of eternity?

submitted by NukeAmerica to Christianity 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 02:17:17 ago (+9/-7)     (Christianity)

I have never gotten an answer from one on this. How can you say murder and torture is bad when your god does it much worse but forever. But Satan is the bad one?


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[ - ] TheYiddler 2 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:08:03 ago (+2/-0)

Hell is merely some bullshit to scare people into believing. Heaven too. Carrot and stick both to steer the sheep.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:03:10 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Kozel 2 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:03:35 ago (+3/-1)

Hell is not a concept in original abrahamic faith. It was added later by some dude.

[ - ] DukeofRaul 2 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 05:49:21 ago (+3/-1)

Hell is being far from God

[ - ] Kozel 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 06:08:10 ago (+1/-0)

now you're just making shit up

[ - ] DukeofRaul 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 06:31:25 ago (+1/-0)

This is basic esotericism

[ - ] Kozel 2 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 06:40:34 ago (+2/-0)

not abrahamic, but made up hundreds of years later as mental coping gymnastics

[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 06:44:35 ago (+0/-0)

Even if you dont belive in god its the opposite of the adamite man and the true gods name of light

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 16:13:02 ago (+0/-0)

I have to believe in a fairy tale to even consider what you wrote.

[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 16:17:39 ago (+0/-0)

All tou have to do is believe.

[ - ] Kozel 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 16:18:13 ago (+1/-0)

no thanks I'm not a retard

[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 16:27:40 ago (+0/-0)

Where did your parents come frome?
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[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 11:10:33 ago (+0/-0)

Just like infant baptism. A made up ritual to protect infants from original sin.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:02:42 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 09:23:51 ago (+0/-0)

God is both.

[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:46:20 ago (+1/-0)

It was the Vatican to scare the white man into believing.

[ - ] Kozel 2 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:48:27 ago (+2/-0)

Previously they were scared of being killed for not pretending to believe

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 09:22:48 ago (+1/-0)

It's called free will.

God didn't murder and torture them. He let them choose their path and gave them plenty of warning and opportunity to choose an alternate path.

[ - ] Panic 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 11:15:15 ago (+0/-0)

Either/Or is not allowing an alternative. How about "None of the above"? How about "Being left the fuck alone"?

The god taught in churches is a bully at best, threatening people with false alternative options. But I suspect it's all make believe. Everything taught in churches is agenda driven and most is not even biblically correct. Been in many churches of many denominations around the US and all of them are creepy as shit.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 11:23:54 ago (+0/-0)

Nigger, stop putting yourself and humanity on the same plane as God. God fuckin' created you and everything you see around you. God has LESS of an obligation to you than you have to a piss ant, and I don't see people getting charged with murder or torture over killing ants. You can decide, for yourself, if you want eternal everlasting life in heaven, or eternal suffering in hell. It's up to you. God isn't making you do shit. God isn't bullying you. God isn't threatening you. God is giving you a choice with what to do with your own eternal soul. You make the decisions and you live with the consequences of that decision.

[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 16:33:37 ago (+0/-0)

You chose to go to hell for not believing in this certain religion that had no proof or rational! But he loves you!

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 18:54:18 ago (+0/-0)

There is plenty of rationale and there are not things in this universe that are unproven than proven. Proof don't mean shit. There is plenty of evidence.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 02:55:34 ago (+1/-0)

I hate Abraham but some people fuckin deserve it. Though I dunno if sending niggers to hell works, because at least half of them have no ongoing consciousness to speak of.

A better question is why they hate ethno-nationalism and think Joseph was in the right for taking Egypt over through economic trickery, then inviting in the rest of his clan of refugees. Buncha rootless elites traveling the land acting like they have a right to rule others just because their god says so. No wonder they create so many control schemes to fool the goyim.

[ - ] LiberalsAreMental 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 15:39:07 ago (+0/-0)

God is to humanity as a loving father is to a drug addict teenager.

God loves us and wants us to stop our crap and come back to him. If we change our ways he will welcome us home.

If we rebel for too long, he will change the locks and tell us we will never again be welcome.

If we are not allowed in Heaven, where do our immortal souls go? There's Heaven and then there's the place God made when he cast out the fallen angels: Hell.

The fallen angles who run Hell are not nice people. They are metaphorically drug dealing pimps that take in runaway kids. The kids will not enjoy their stay in Hell.

Right now your loving Heavenly Father is asking you to cut the crap and come back to Him. If you wait too long, you might end up someplace much worse.

[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 16:49:47 ago (+0/-0)

I knew a guy that burned his son alive for stealing, he got charged with murder though.

[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:27:45 ago (+0/-0)

You do!

[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 05:48:39 ago (+0/-0)

Hell is having beliefs far from god to the people saying hell doesnt exist. Its a philosophical point

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:05:46 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] DukeofRaul -1 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:14:31 ago (+0/-1)

You could be a nigger if you dont understand things like this

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:25:50 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 09:35:16 ago (+0/-0)

You are the one who is a nigger!!!

[ - ] ReformedNPC 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:39:41 ago (+0/-0)

Your question can be answered, but only from an esoteric perspective.

[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:46:35 ago (+0/-0)

Ok shoot

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:38:57 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:47:31 ago (+1/-0)

Spoken like a true baptist scholar, well done parrot

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 09:38:22 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 03:52:47 ago (+0/-0)*

For the soul burning up in a waste disposal is eternity, even if it's one second.

[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 03:54:19 ago (+1/-0)

What?

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:35:49 ago (+1/-0)

If you harvest something and some harvest is spoiled, you throw that into waste disposal. Burn it up.

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:48:37 ago (+0/-0)

I think you might be retarded, please seek help

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:50:51 ago (+0/-0)

So what are you going to do with spoiled harvest?
Okay, maybe you are a recycler guy, you use the spoiled harvest as a compost. Maybe reincarnate that soul as something else to learn from previous mistakes. A step up, i would say.

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 0 points 2 yearsMay 28, 2023 03:04:19 ago (+0/-0)

First off burning anything requires time, energy, and fuel. Don't waste any of those things to "burn it up".
Second, "spoiled harvest" is called animal feed. Chickens, pigs, goats, all love "spoiled harvest".
Lastly, I'm saying feed the Jews to your livestock to save your eternal soul

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 2 yearsMay 28, 2023 09:42:21 ago (+0/-0)

Nah, jews have parasites in them. I don't want to infect my livestock. Last thing i need is my goats praying to baphomet.

[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:48:39 ago (+0/-0)

What a loving god!

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:49:20 ago (+0/-0)

Do you love niggers?

[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:51:59 ago (+0/-0)

Maybe...

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 04:54:29 ago (+1/-0)

What a loving NukeAmerica.

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 3 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 05:32:09 ago (+3/-0)

Lol , I love all you faggots

[ - ] Warden -1 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 05:49:36 ago (+0/-1)*

It’s called “free will”, it’s the greatest gift God could bestow upon his most important creation, without it, all God would’ve created are puppets, or soulless animals who have no use for our senses outside of survival. How great could we be if our only concern was survival? God loved us enough to gift us with self determination so we could do a lot more with life than just live. He showed us the path to righteousness, to a beautiful life, and a path to his kingdom within the Bible. God also gave us a conscience to aid our senses in staying on the righteous path.
We aren’t puppets, we choose the path of eternal salvation or damnation on our own.

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 06:19:08 ago (+0/-0)

eternal damnation is not a thing

you can only be damned once, its not something that happens eternally

[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 06:22:45 ago (+0/-0)

We don't choose where we are born. Muslims and Hindus, etc, think their faith is the correct one.

[ - ] SirNiggsalot -1 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 05:31:21 ago (+0/-1)

The Christian perspective is people go to hell because of sin , so all mankind is destined for hell. God still loves us despite our sin , however because God is just , sin must be judged. However , God sent a redeemer , who paid the price for our sin , so we can spend eternity in God's presence instead of hell. So see , God is the good guy.

One caveat tho , you must accept Christ as your personal savior and believe God raised him from the dead.

[ - ] usedoilanalysis -2 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 07:32:52 ago (+0/-2)

Hell is what the atheist experiences daily. The atheist turned away from God. Atheists have more disease, lower enjoyment from life, no sense of purpose.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:04:11 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:29:34 ago (+0/-0)

Every faggot in the WEF is an atheist, do those people look happy, well adjusted, fit? Look at the liberal youtube faggots, they're all atheists, do they look like paragons of masculinity and competence?

Transexuals and homosexuals are almost entirely atheists, Magnus Hirschfield, the faggot that wrote all those books on faggotry that Germans rightly burned and destroyed was an atheist. The faggots that invented critical race theory, all atheists, all miserable fucks. Sorry to say but not a lot of atheists I can look up to, but a lot I can look DOWN on.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:35:57 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 08:43:06 ago (+0/-0)

Look at them, no one that looks so pathetic has any worthwhile beliefs.

[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 09:25:13 ago (+0/-1)

No. Being cast into the lake of fire for all eternity is NOT like being an atheist.

[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 09:57:25 ago (+0/-0)

It is, look at the average atheist, if your body and your demeanor is a reflection of how you feel inside, they're all pretty much tormented souls in a permanent state of hell.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 yearsMay 27, 2023 10:15:40 ago (+0/-0)

I don't see the average athiest in horrific pain and suffering from having their eternal soul burning in hell.

Sad and fat ain't hell. It's what leads to hell.