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Juryless Trials Are a Naked Power Grab and a Serious Threat to Liberty

submitted by deleted to politics 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 11:48:00 ago (+30/-0)     (politics)

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[ - ] LawFag 1 point 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 13:53:49 ago (+1/-0)

I would much rather be tried by a judge than a jury. The people in this country are unbelievably retarded. You really don't want a jury trial on your criminal case in this country unless you are a minority.

[ - ] Jinglebanger 4 points 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 15:00:33 ago (+4/-0)

It's a double-edged sword. The jury is retarded, but the judge, prosecutor, defense, etc are all up each other's asses.

I've heard judges come out with shit like "anyone who pleads not guilty today gets the maximum sentence" because the prosecutor is "overbooked" and needs to cop a bunch of pleas to make up for it.

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 15:59:30 ago (+0/-0)

Judges in general are the biggest assholes in the courtroom. I'd sooner deal with a prosecutor directly. At least they have some incentive to clear the docket.

Basically they are arbitrary and convinced of their own righteousness. That could go your way, but it also could not. And like I said they're lawyer assholes, so odds are they aren't gonna like you. A lot of them are elected, and the rest are political appointments. In a blue state, they are 100% democrat.

[ - ] x0x7 [op] 0 points 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 16:38:05 ago (+0/-0)

I do agree that I'd rather have a jury convict but you don't really want a sentencing jury. Judges understand that you are supposed to go multiple under maximum sentencing because the whole point of the maximum sentencing is for handing down a stiff judgement on the worst case you saw that year. Juries see, oh, he had three small bags of weed in three different locations in his car, that's three counts of possession. Maximum sentence is 7 years. We could give him 21 years. We'll be really nice and give him 8. We are being so nice. When a judge would understand that the norm would be 9 months.

Judges understand that legislators put big numbers in their bills for maximum sentences to grand stand how tough on crime they are. Even Biden bragged out 30 year maximum sentences for a tiny rock of crack. Judges get that maximum just means maximum while juries treat maximum like the law's suggestion.

I think the defense should be able to pick both.

[ - ] GreenSaint 0 points 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 14:36:43 ago (+0/-0)

I’m retarded and I derrrrr take derrrrrrrrr offense to what you’re saying.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 19:11:37 ago (+0/-0)

I try to take every ticket to trial by jury. But you only get a 6 person trial in Texas. Normally the prosecutor doesn't want to deal with stupid speeding tickets it's a waste of time for everyone involved. I have time so it doesn't bother me.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 17:20:51 ago (+0/-0)

So are nigger juries.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 16:48:25 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] 2Drunk 0 points 11 monthsMay 23, 2023 15:46:19 ago (+0/-0)

Your fucked regardless. Judges can be some corrupt mother fuckers and in bed with the DA. Then again with so many different types of niggers they will find you guilty because your a white man. They want you punished because they have lied to them their entire lives that it was the whites that did slavery. The only way to win is not to play.