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Why aren't there more intelligent people in the world? [Serious Question]

submitted by rapid_water to AskGoats 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 07:59:16 ago (+4/-1)     (AskGoats)

Why aren't there more intelligent people in the world? Why is the world so full of idiots? Why hasn't nature produced a average IQ capable of getting humanity off Earth to explore the stars?

Is it because when two people mate:
(A) the genetic code is working with two "idiot" genes and can't splice them together (doesn't know how) to make an "intelligent gene"?
(B) Nature has figured that non-intelligent people have a better chance of reproducing, so the genetic code (while capable of making an 'intelligent' gene) refuses do do so because 'idiot genes' have a better chance at reproducing?
(C) something else?


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[ - ] KDs_Other_Burner 0 points 3 monthsJan 23, 2024 06:43:43 ago (+0/-0)

Humans are also a species of animal. Evolution teaches us that just because a trait is somewhat advantageous or beneficial does not mean it will become part of a species nature. Evolution tends to occur when that trait directly leads to the avoidance of an early death and thus outbreeding can occur with the new trait.

In this context, most people are "smart enough". If a one hundred or more IQ was an evolutionary minimum due to the presence of some apex predator or similar then we'd all have one - even niggers. But it isn't an evolutionary minimum, even most niggers can outwit an animal.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3 monthsJan 23, 2024 06:03:10 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 3 monthsJan 23, 2024 06:14:22 ago (+0/-0)

Dont delete it. Come back.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 7 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 09:05:24 ago (+7/-0)*

Your question is closely related to the Fermi Paradox:

Given the age and size of the universe, and the unlikelihood of life being unique to our planet, why have we not encountered any signs of advanced space-faring civilizations?

Here is the solution to this paradox, which should be rather self-evident, had people not been conditioned into being blind to the obvious:

By nature, everything in our universe drifts towards chaos and entropy.

Evolution produces order from chaos, and excellence from mediocrity, by ruthlessly culling the low end of the bell curve, with every generation, for every trait that matters. As a species and its civilization approaches the level of intelligence and advancement necessarily for becoming interstellar, they will also create all manner of comforts, and entertainment, and medicine, and safeties for themselves.

After all, those are the sweet fruits of civilization. But they are poisonous. Rotten. Because they undermine and destroy the very evolutionary filter that gave rise to the civilization to begin with. And so, without that filter, it withers and dies, as chaos and mediocrity take over once more. Eventually, the chaos causes the comforts fail, and so the filters are restored, and the cycle begins anew.

The only way to break this cycle is by recognizing the problem ahead of time, enshrining eugenic pressures as core values of the civilization, and enforcing them with measured prejudice. We almost had that at one point, not too long ago. But the hordes of mediocrity were already too numerous, and trampled it in a fit of rage at its beauty and splendor.

[ - ] rapid_water [op] 1 point 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 13:37:22 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks for the thoughtful response. My question was more focused upon the genetic level than societal level. Are there low IQ people because the genetic code simply DOESN'T KNOW how to generate improved intelligence or that the genetic code CHOOSES not to improve intelligence?

For instance, the genetic code sees idiot_gene + idiot_gene and has no way of improving that to smart_gene? Or is it that the code sees idiot_gene + smart_gene and it CHOOSES idiot_gene because idiot_gene will have higher probability of procreation?

[ - ] GloryBeckons 2 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 14:46:47 ago (+2/-0)*

My question was more focused upon the genetic level than societal level.

They are one and the same. The nature of every society is a direct consequence of the genetics of its members. And the rules and customs that emerge from that nature directly influence future genetics by applying selection pressures. You cannot consider one without the other.

Genetic code doesn't "know" or "choose" anything.

The genes of an individual are, in essence, a remix of the parents' genes with a bit of random noise added. This will always result in all traits, including intelligence, gravitating towards average but occasionally drifting in either direction, for better or for worse. This is what gives rise to the shape of the bell curve.

The genes of a nation, and how they develop across generations, can be thought of in terms of that bell curve drifting left or right, as well as growing taller and narrower, or flatter and broader. How this develops depends on the society and what kind of selective pressures it creates.

Whether the "idiot_gene" or the "smart_gene" is more likely to propagate depends on which of the two a society rewards or punishes.

For example, if a society decides to test IQ at puberty and render the bottom 10% infertile, then IQ would steadily improve with every generation. On the other hand, if a society decides to heavily tax its best and brightest, in order to subsidize its wretches and imbeciles, then it will certainly get more of what it paid for, and less of what it taxed.

[ - ] Aze 1 point 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 16:38:54 ago (+1/-0)

Biology is the root society is the flower.

[ - ] rapid_water [op] 1 point 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 17:21:00 ago (+1/-0)

Great explanation; thanks for the response.

[ - ] Aze 1 point 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 16:38:14 ago (+1/-0)

Damn, well put good sir.

[ - ] observation1 2 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 09:58:19 ago (+2/-0)

Sharpening your observational skills is a learned skill like sculpting.

There's not a lot of people who can sculpt because the demand is low and the penalty for admission is high.

[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 09:03:37 ago (+2/-0)*

C. Unsure about other countries, but in 'Murica with "No Child Left Behind", teachers stopped teaching how to think but rather how to regurgitate correct answers.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 2 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 08:28:25 ago (+2/-0)

1- Stupid people breed like animals.
2- People are generally lazy. It's easier to be stupid.
3 - The governments of the world want a mostly stupid populace of useless eaters to consume mass quantities. So the masses are given bad education, poor food, and environmental contaminants. All of which drive the IQ even lower.

I think that mostly covers it. Also, it's endemic to the human condition. If everything collapsed tomorrow and a small band of smart healthy people started over, they'd be doing exactly that. Starting the whole cycle over. They'd end up where we are now.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 08:20:50 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 15:16:56 ago (+1/-0)

Oddly I listened to a book that blamed it on farming and domestication of animals

Before farming the most intelligent independent hunter types reproduced. You had to be smart to be an independent human at the time. Brain size increased iq etc...

Farming doesn't require high iq just boring and being able to deal with boredom and you had a lot of food to reproduce a lot of kids and farm hands.

Then the smart people became the rulers and shop keepers and didn't have as many kids.

It kind of makes sense.

[ - ] rapid_water [op] 0 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 17:22:04 ago (+0/-0)

Interesting theory.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 08:25:39 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] BadBoyBubby 0 points 11 monthsMay 20, 2023 05:52:43 ago (+0/-0)

There are studies that show decrease in brain size between early humans and modern ones, IQ is dropping as well. I’d say it’s because humanity is too successful as species, and this led to us not being subject to very strict natural selection. In a society of idiots it’s tiring to be of average intelligence, it must be nightmare for geniuses.

[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 22:28:32 ago (+0/-0)

If a life has low value, the parent must have a lot of offspring to be successful ie. Mouse or Africa.

If a life has a high value, extreme support must be given to young to support them. Ie. Lions, Europeans, Nordics, Arians.

Just lots of low value people in the world trying to pass down their genes.

Reminds me of a parable /quote... All the animals of the jungle were comparing their children saying "well, I have 3 youg possums", or "I have 200 baby roaches every year!", then all the animals looked at the lioness, and she said, "I only have one cub a year, but that cub is a lion ".

[ - ] anothergoatinthewall 0 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 20:16:57 ago (+0/-0)

Research Thomas Midgley Jr. He's responsible for the loss of IQ around the world, but mostly concentrated in developed countries.

Need help getting motivated? leaded gas.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 15:18:17 ago (+0/-0)

Watch idocracy and all will be explained

[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 11:38:00 ago (+0/-0)

Most of the people you believe to be intelligent are actually just calling it in.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 11:11:25 ago (+0/-0)

We started from sub-nigger IQ levels and it takes a long time to improve. Further evolution requires higher birth rates and selective pressure, but intelligence leads people to have fewer offspring that they invest in more, rather than more offspring and sacrifice the shittier ones to further improve the gene pool

[ - ] Conspirologist 0 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 08:22:52 ago (+1/-1)

The majority of people are genetically programmed to be slaves and work for the 1% of elite. This is why monarchy and slavery existed for so long everywhere, and why a bunch of Jews are controlling everything.

[ - ] lastlist 0 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 08:01:56 ago (+1/-1)

Bell curve.

[ - ] texasblood -1 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 16:52:30 ago (+0/-1)*

Because EVERYBODY already knows EVERYTHING!
Pick a cuck here on Voat,motherfucka gonna go down in flames holding a vain position on a subject.
Several of the fags with multiple alts fuck off every thread regardless of the subject.
Know it all cunts
Genrtics you think?
Just like good ole daddy right!

[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 11 monthsMay 19, 2023 08:08:58 ago (+0/-1)

Pass.