The thing is you have no frame of reference donnie.
What you're trying to defend NASA already admitted that lem was 3 millimeters thick at the most. You could poke a hole through it with a pencil quoting NASA.
Do you understand that the skin of a Boeing 747 is roughly 2.2mm thick, operates at a roughly 20% higher pressure gradient, AND has to deal with aerodynamic stresses, and flies just fine?
Do you understand that aluminum drink cans are 0.1mm thick, yet when filled are pressurized up to 345kPa, which is a 244kPa gradient from normal atmospheric pressure (101kPa)? Yet they hold up to transit just fine, even at high altitudes.
Do you understand that 3mm is 30 times thicker than 0.1mm, and that 3mm shell only has to hold a 33kPa (the pressure inside the LM) differential? 30x the thickness to hold 13.5% of the pressure difference.
Do you understand that, even with all of this, there was nowhere inside the LM where you could directly touch the actual hull of the pressure vessel?
Do you understand that the wrinkly surfaces seen in pictures are not the outer hull, but sheets of aluminum and mylar used for thermal insulation?
On top of the space conspiracies being retarded as fuck, what’s even the point?
The govt created 9/11 directly or indirectly, killed or upended many millions of lives in war and covid, and constantly gaslights us all into losing rights and letting them do evil shit
So who tf really honestly cares about whether or not we went to space 60 years ago?
On a relative scale it’s really not even worth thinking about. Which is why you should see the whole thing as a psyop to get you to believe in and waste your life force on idiotic tangential shit so you don’t do anything about the real conspiracies…
They tell us this piece of fucking shit literally flew into outer space and back.
No, it was literally designed to be used ONLY in space. It was carried there by the same rocket the Apollo module rode on, protected from atmospheric drag on ascent by the upper-stage cowling. It landed on the moon, left the bottom half there, and was discarded prior to returning to Earth. The Apollo module, which you'll notice is much, MUCH sturdier looking, is what actually took the crew into space and back.
[ - ] uvulectomy 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 18, 2023 16:56:16 ago (+1/-0)*
which has stresses far greater than any shit on earth
LESS stress because of no aerodynamic drag.
As for the skin being "only" 3mm thick as someone tried to claim, here's some reference...
The skin of a Boeing 747 is 2.2mm thick, and most airliners operate with a pressure differential of 41-55kPa. This is while moving at high velocities relative to the airstream.
The skin of the LM was 3mm, and the module was pressurized to 33kPa. With nothing but space outside, this means a pressure differential of....wait for it.... 33kPa. 20% lower than even the lowest pressure differential used by airliners.
But this isn't a problem because the LM was never designed to encounter atmospheric drag.
And before you say "then how could they breathe", it was also a 100% oxygen atmosphere, which allows for proper respiration at reduced pressure (Earth's atmosphere is only 21% oxygen).
Further, the picture posted makes it look flimsy because what you see on the outside is NOT the hull. Those are thin sheets of mylar and aluminum used for thermal insulation.
Notice how it's constructed in a similar fashion to an airliner. And, like an airliner, there were almost no places where they could come in direct contact with the pressure vessel.
...especially the van Allen belt.
First of all, radiation isn't mechanical stress.
Second, they didn't STAY in the Van Allen belt, as that only extends from about 640km to 58,000km. The moon is at a distance of about 384,000km.
They did travel through it, and they were subject to small doses of radiation. The highest measured was 1.14 rads. To put that in context, the standard dosage allowed by the AEC for people working with radioactive material is 5 rem/year. Assuming exposure and absorption are equal, rads = rem. So 1.14 is well under 5, meaning they were well within the tolerable dosage limits. Less even than employees at some nuclear power plants.
You broke him. Flat earthers are subversive or 12 years old and still gullible until proven otherwise. There are a few paranoid schizophrenic but subversive is more likely.
You know they had a sextant? How does a sextant work in space? Against what ground are you measuring an angle against? Relative to earth? Could they even see the stars? Jury's out on that one. According to the astronauts, they used that thing in space. Bizarre.
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[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 16:35:42 ago (+5/-3)
Here's some instruments from a modern particle accelerator: https://files.catbox.moe/w3kjfk.jpg
No time or interest to make it look all slick and futuristic like in your favorite scifi movies.
[ + ] heroinwinsagain
[ - ] heroinwinsagain -1 points 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 17:18:52 ago (+1/-2)
What you're trying to defend NASA already admitted that lem was 3 millimeters thick at the most. You could poke a hole through it with a pencil quoting NASA.
Do you understand pressure differential?
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 17:24:44 ago (+2/-1)
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[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 20:45:04 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] uvulectomy
[ - ] uvulectomy 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 18, 2023 23:19:19 ago (+0/-0)*
Do you understand that the skin of a Boeing 747 is roughly 2.2mm thick, operates at a roughly 20% higher pressure gradient, AND has to deal with aerodynamic stresses, and flies just fine?
Do you understand that aluminum drink cans are 0.1mm thick, yet when filled are pressurized up to 345kPa, which is a 244kPa gradient from normal atmospheric pressure (101kPa)? Yet they hold up to transit just fine, even at high altitudes.
Do you understand that 3mm is 30 times thicker than 0.1mm, and that 3mm shell only has to hold a 33kPa (the pressure inside the LM) differential? 30x the thickness to hold 13.5% of the pressure difference.
Do you understand that, even with all of this, there was nowhere inside the LM where you could directly touch the actual hull of the pressure vessel?
Do you understand that the wrinkly surfaces seen in pictures are not the outer hull, but sheets of aluminum and mylar used for thermal insulation?
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[ - ] giantprick 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 17:05:36 ago (+3/-2)
The govt created 9/11 directly or indirectly, killed or upended many millions of lives in war and covid, and constantly gaslights us all into losing rights and letting them do evil shit
So who tf really honestly cares about whether or not we went to space 60 years ago?
On a relative scale it’s really not even worth thinking about. Which is why you should see the whole thing as a psyop to get you to believe in and waste your life force on idiotic tangential shit so you don’t do anything about the real conspiracies…
[ + ] gat
[ - ] gat 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 18:23:49 ago (+3/-1)
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[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior -1 points 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 18:12:30 ago (+2/-3)
It matters because it's one of the biggest lies in human history. It matters because we give these lying fucks 87 million a fucking day.
Maybe you were being sarcastic
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[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 17:31:17 ago (+2/-2)*
https://vid8.poal.co/user/observation4/VeBcOhN
(See 57 seconds to 1.30)
Also
https://vid8.poal.co/user/observation4/LVNCCMv
For reference here is the lander
https://airandspace.si.edu/sites/default/files/images/image-albums/99-15232h.jpg
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[ + ] uvulectomy
[ - ] uvulectomy 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 21:12:45 ago (+2/-1)
No, it was literally designed to be used ONLY in space. It was carried there by the same rocket the Apollo module rode on, protected from atmospheric drag on ascent by the upper-stage cowling. It landed on the moon, left the bottom half there, and was discarded prior to returning to Earth. The Apollo module, which you'll notice is much, MUCH sturdier looking, is what actually took the crew into space and back.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 22:30:36 ago (+1/-1)
These people are in a category of people with moderate to severe intellectual disabilities.
Who can have the patience to cut it up and feed it in small chunks that even an imbecile would comprehend?
[ + ] NoRefunds
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[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 18, 2023 04:44:28 ago (+1/-0)
Thanks for that.
[ + ] uvulectomy
[ - ] uvulectomy 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 18, 2023 16:56:16 ago (+1/-0)*
LESS stress because of no aerodynamic drag.
As for the skin being "only" 3mm thick as someone tried to claim, here's some reference...
The skin of a Boeing 747 is 2.2mm thick, and most airliners operate with a pressure differential of 41-55kPa. This is while moving at high velocities relative to the airstream.
The skin of the LM was 3mm, and the module was pressurized to 33kPa. With nothing but space outside, this means a pressure differential of....wait for it.... 33kPa. 20% lower than even the lowest pressure differential used by airliners.
But this isn't a problem because the LM was never designed to encounter atmospheric drag.
And before you say "then how could they breathe", it was also a 100% oxygen atmosphere, which allows for proper respiration at reduced pressure (Earth's atmosphere is only 21% oxygen).
Further, the picture posted makes it look flimsy because what you see on the outside is NOT the hull. Those are thin sheets of mylar and aluminum used for thermal insulation.
THIS is the actual pressure vessel: https://files.catbox.moe/xju6zs.jpg
Notice how it's constructed in a similar fashion to an airliner. And, like an airliner, there were almost no places where they could come in direct contact with the pressure vessel.
First of all, radiation isn't mechanical stress.
Second, they didn't STAY in the Van Allen belt, as that only extends from about 640km to 58,000km. The moon is at a distance of about 384,000km.
They did travel through it, and they were subject to small doses of radiation. The highest measured was 1.14 rads. To put that in context, the standard dosage allowed by the AEC for people working with radioactive material is 5 rem/year. Assuming exposure and absorption are equal, rads = rem. So 1.14 is well under 5, meaning they were well within the tolerable dosage limits. Less even than employees at some nuclear power plants.
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[ + ] dicedice
[ - ] dicedice -1 points 2.0 yearsMay 17, 2023 17:00:07 ago (+2/-3)
According to the astronauts, they used that thing in space. Bizarre.