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I want you shills to think about something.. the earth is spinning at approximately 1000 miles per hour?

submitted by Doglegwarrior to AskUpgoat 1 yearApr 30, 2023 14:51:18 ago (+8/-10)     (AskUpgoat)

You can Google all this or use what ever you want to check the numbers I'm using approximate numbers..

So spinning 1000 miles per hour
Then flying around the sun at 66 thousand miles per hour
Thr moon is 237k miles away spinning how fast around the earth?

All this happening and the earth is wobbling and the moon stays 100% locked on us facing us at all times?

By a gravitational forcs so weak no one can even measure it?

Does any of that make sense?


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[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 11 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 15:08:46 ago (+12/-1)

By a gravitational forcs so weak no one can even measure it?

Wut? 9.81 m/s2.

You are aware speed is relative, right?

[ - ] Her0n 6 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:13:18 ago (+8/-2)

He is, he's just a kike wasting your time. Same with anyone else pushing this idiocy. Flat earthers have never been to the hemisphere opposite of their original location. If they did, they'd see a completely different set of stars in the sky that won't match their original night sky, even if they rotate their perspective.

I'm not so fucking poor as them so I can and have traveled around the globe, seeing these sights for myself.

Anyone who supports flat earth is an idiot on the same level as a nigger, or they are a jew trying to distract you from growing tour own food and strengthening you mind, body, and soul.

Ignore flat earth retards, reap a garden.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 12:14:58 ago (+0/-0)

I'm not so fucking poor as them so I can and have traveled around the globe, seeing these sights for myself.

Even the poor can travel around the globe if they aren't stupid.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 12:39:37 ago (+1/-1)

True, but I rarely get to describe flat earthers as intelligent.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearMay 3, 2023 05:29:38 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Wahaha -2 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 18:11:58 ago (+0/-2)

How is traveling far to see something different disproving flat Earth? Flat Earth is silly, but what's more depressing is that few people have the ability to legitimately refute it.

[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 18:27:57 ago (+3/-2)*

Have you seen the night sky in what we call the northern hemisphere? Have you seen the night sky from the southern hemisphere? Why are they different?

Traveling to the other side of a globe affords a completely different section of our galaxy to us. Traveling to the other side of a flat plane gives you the same viewable section of the galaxy, with no variation in the stars position in the night sky.

This is why I bring it up, because it's relevant.

[ - ] Wahaha -1 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 06:56:27 ago (+0/-1)

Why wouldn't it be different if you travel far away? Do the traveling while pointing a camera at the sky and you'll see it moving along with you. What does this prove? Nothing. According to you the sun would always be visible on a flat earth plane, but yet flat earth has an answer for why that isn't the case. If there's an answer for a star that near to use, what makes you think referring to stars far away would be a meaningful refutation?

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 07:57:00 ago (+1/-1)

There are a completely different set of stars I the night sky in the southern hemisphere compared to the northern.

There is even a different set of constellations.

Have you ever traveled past the equator in your lifetime?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 11:05:10 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 11:23:10 ago (+1/-1)

Orion is in the southwestern sky if you are in the Northern Hemisphere or the northwestern sky if you are in the Southern Hemisphere. It is best seen between latitudes 85 and minus 75 degrees. Its right ascension is 5 hours, and its declination is 5 degrees.

Orion is located close to the equator.

How come you can't see Polaris from australia, ever?

[ - ] deleted -1 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 19:18:26 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] Wahaha 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 13:37:10 ago (+0/-0)

Of course there is a different set of stars. Where did I ever disagree on that point? I'm saying it doesn't refute flat Earth. But no, I never traveled past the equator. Southern hemisphere can suck my balls. Why would you even go down there? Only shitholes and Antarctica.

[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1 yearMay 1, 2023 14:10:18 ago (+1/-0)

Reread my previous comment.

The southern and northern hemispheres do not share the same night sky. People in Australia are looking at a completely different section of our galaxy than people in the Northern Hemisphere.

The stars that match the angle from the tropic of cancer and further south can be seen periodically from the sourhern hemisphere.

Same with stars matching the angle of the tropic of Capricorn in the Northern Hemisphere.

If you go to Australia you will never see Polaris, the north star, ever.

The reason for you to go there is to expand your understanding and bear witness to the truth with your own eyes. We all know flat earthers refuse to believe anything that doesn't match their dogmatic religion. They claim they'll only believe their own senses, even when their experiments show them the earth is round they refuse to accept it.

Much akin to a religious zealot. Like a fucking mudslime blowing himself up for his 72 virgins, or a Spaniards and their inquisition.

You're all the same to me.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 19:36:17 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1 yearMay 1, 2023 20:33:39 ago (+1/-0)

You have no concept of perspective when dealing with astronomical distances.

Some astronomer you are lol

[ - ] Wahaha 0 points 1 yearMay 2, 2023 05:01:57 ago (+0/-0)

I already told you that this is not news to me. It just doesn't refute flat Earth. What are you, a broken recorder that can only repeat the same thing over and over again?

If you go to Australia you will never see Polaris, the north star, ever.

And if you go to China you will never see the Eiffel Tower. (Well, maybe a replica).
What does that prove? Nothing.

Nevermind that I also already told you that I do not believe in flat Earth. Wait.. are you just a bot, is that it?

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearMay 2, 2023 06:00:26 ago (+0/-0)

I repeat myself because you don't comprehend what I'm saying. Then you use false equivalence like it's going g out of style.

[ - ] Love240 -4 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:20:37 ago (+2/-6)

They'll call you all manner of names, but notice how they can't call you a liar.
Hm... Almost like we've seen this pattern before.

It's funny how quickly globies get in a tizzy when they are bested in the realm of logic and reason.

[ - ] Her0n 5 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:33:30 ago (+7/-2)

He could be lying or he could just be stupid, maybe both.

The atmosphere rotates with the earth, we rotate along with that. It's called relative speed, and it's not my responsibility to continuously educate you all.

That's not the hill I chose to die on.

I'll just downvote and occasionally call out the bullshit when the mood does strike.

To reiterate, it's not my responsibility to teach you. You're an adult now, it's up to you to figure it out.

[ - ] Love240 -3 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:37:07 ago (+2/-5)

It's your responsibility to educate yourself and you're in denial of the reality in front of your eyes and instead believe the words of proven liars.

[ - ] Her0n 3 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:51:06 ago (+5/-2)

Why are the stars in the southern sky different from the northern?

Why do boats, the sun, the moon, the stars seem the sink into the ocean as they set?

Why can't a single flat earth model explain why the shadow across the moon is curved during lunar eclipses?

Why can't flat earth models ever predict solar eclipses?

If buoyancy and electromagnetism is the reason for objects to fall to or rise from the earth, why can't a single flat earther figure out how to use electromagnetism to change the buoyancy of say, a tennis ball, make it float away from earth?

The problem here is that I have looked into your side of the argument, I've even watched your peoples videos and debates. Here I am, still telling you that you've been had by the likes of mommy's basement babies such as Mark Sergeant and Knodel.

Knodel said the earth would have a 15 degree drift only if the earth was rotating at the speed nasa says it is. Guess what, Knodel confirmed that there is a 15 degree drift.

Many people have explained and debunked (I hate that word) this flat earth scam. I suggest you suck it up and watch people who disagree with you, it's the only way your idea will get stronger, by testing it.

[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:05:22 ago (+3/-4)

Why this, why that, why the other? Why don't you explain no curvature? Why don't you explain no evidence of spin?

Muh whataboutism is tiring when you all ignore the obvious in favor of lies you have been taught.

https://steemit.com/flat/@slopetester/15-nasa-research-papers-that-admit-flat-and-nonrotating

You or Knodel or whoever hasn't proven anything.

[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:34:53 ago (+3/-2)

You can't answer any of my questions because a flat Erath model can't explain the reality in the answer to those questions.

The northern and southern hemispheres have completely different night sky's from one another due to us living on a sphere and the northern half seeing a different portion of our galaxy from the southern. How does a flat earth model explain this?

[ - ] Love240 -2 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:36:50 ago (+1/-3)

My not answering any of your questions is a moot point.
We can observe that there is no curvature of the horizon that cannot be answered.
And all math used is flat earth math. Even NASA admits it.

You don't have a model either. You have no idea what you are even talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2COlO3Xf2s

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:48:05 ago (+2/-2)

And you saying that you don't have to answer my points just shows me that you have no answer at all, while nasa has one that actually makes sense without me having to commit mental gymnastics to maintain the concept.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks -1 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 01:55:51 ago (+1/-2)

"Why don't you explain no curvature" - can't, because there is curvature.

"Why don't you explain no evidence of spin" - "15... degree drift" - Thanks Bob.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 01:54:17 ago (+0/-0)

I'll do it.

You are liars.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 19:34:47 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Love240 -4 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:18:05 ago (+2/-6)

That solves it all, right? No need to worry about conservation of energy and centrifugal force...

You're not thinking right and you should be embarrassed about that.

[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:37:00 ago (+3/-2)

No, you said gravity wasn't measurable, and I provided the measurement.

[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:40:04 ago (+1/-2)

I didn't say anything to that effect. That has nothing to do with the fact that there is no perceptible motion of the earth and you have no explanation for that, yet you still believe mans words who tell you that it is spinning.

[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 2 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:22:23 ago (+3/-1)

Because you're moving that fast too! You don't feel speed, you feel acceleration.

Care to share your mathematical model where you should feel speed?

[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:24:06 ago (+1/-2)

Circular motion IS constant acceleration. That's not how conservation of energy works.

[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:25:50 ago (+2/-1)

Oh, so we're going faster and faster now? How?

An object in motion stays in motion, unless acted on by another force. What force is causing constant acceleration? What is the math model for that?

[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:30:34 ago (+1/-2)

Acceleration is the rate of change of the velocity, which is the rate of change of position and direction.

In a circular motion, you are always changing direction and position, thus, you are always accelerating.

You don't even know simple shit like the definition of acceleration, what makes you think you know jack shit about the shape of the earth?

[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 2 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:56:57 ago (+3/-1)

If the earth is always accelerating we would reach near light speed.

Whats the hold up?

We're moving,not accelerating.

Please show the math on this. Not words, MATH.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 20:38:11 ago (+1/-1)

Needs more increased font size and bold letters!!!!11!!1one!

[ - ] big_fat_dangus -3 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 16:42:03 ago (+0/-3)

lmao this is so hilariously wrong I might get it framed.

[ - ] Love240 1 point 1 yearMay 1, 2023 18:56:29 ago (+1/-0)

I'd love to see a picture of that framed in your house. LOL

[ - ] big_fat_dangus -2 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 19:08:00 ago (+0/-2)

You'd love to see a framed testament to your ignorance? Why? Pure narcissism, is my guess.

[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 19:12:02 ago (+0/-1)

I'd love to see you proclaim how retarded you are framing that, thinking it's not true.

That's the problem with you retards, you've huffed your farts for so long, you've acquired an affinity for them.

You really have become completely retarded because you have ceded the rational ground. You don't operate with reason anymore, you just insult and act like that's some sort of win.

That's not science or reason, you fucking moron.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:53:44 ago (+2/-2)*

Knodel, one of your guys, proved the earth has a 15 degree drift every hour. 15 degree drift per hour is exactly the speed nasa claims the earth rotates.

Care to comment on that?

[ - ] Love240 0 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:02:53 ago (+2/-2)

Lol, nobody did such a thing. NASA assumes the earth is flat in all of their calculations.

https://steemit.com/flat/@slopetester/15-nasa-research-papers-that-admit-flat-and-nonrotating

#Care to read any of that?

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:29:50 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:30:59 ago (+1/-1)

A gyroscope compass is used to determine rotation of a spheroid while the scope is attached to the spheres surface.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fjDuCY82zEA

[ - ] deleted 1 point 1 yearMay 1, 2023 11:08:50 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1 yearMay 1, 2023 11:32:52 ago (+1/-0)

You have nothing to refute my statement, because you know that the gyroscopic compass proves we are moving.

If you had proof to refute me you'd proudly display it here and now, why would you keep your proof to yourself?

No, you chose to attack me multiple times in multiple comments because you have nothing. Your belief is just that, a replacement religion for you to feel a little less small and a little more included.

You are a sad, pathetic example of what happens when a person has far too much ego.

Get over yourself. You aren't special, none of us are.

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[ - ] Her0n 3 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 18:00:47 ago (+3/-0)

https://m.youtube.com/@SciManDan

This man explains it all quite simply, and far better than I can.

I don't care about your feelings. If I can handle watching/reading many different sources of flat earth theory then you can handle watching a few videos in favor of the globe theory.

[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 2 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 18:23:49 ago (+2/-0)

I watch these every few weeks, always makes me laugh how he owns these idiots.

[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 18:26:21 ago (+1/-0)

It is entertaining. Akin to a train wreck, I can't help but watch

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[ - ] chrimony 2 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 18:00:39 ago (+2/-0)

Does any of that make sense?

Flattards can't make sense of anything because they're dumb, ignorant, and obstinate. You can explain the answers and a month later they'll come back posting the same stupid questions, as if they've never been asked and answered before.

Meanwhile, they can't provide answers to the most basic questions that show Flattard Land is complete bullshit, like where's the south pole in their model?

Star trails in Australia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ZMZtq0qfY

But these questions don't bother flattards. They never insist their flattard thought leaders answer them.

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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 15:20:29 ago (+2/-1)

By a gravitational forcs so weak no one can even measure it?

No. We know the gravitational constant. We also know the acceleration in a vacuum on Earth, and for any other mass, from that constant.

[ - ] deleted -4 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 15:32:53 ago (+1/-5)

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[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 3 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:24:18 ago (+3/-0)

We live in 3D. Which way is down in the universe?

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[ - ] ghetto_shitlord -1 points 1 yearMay 2, 2023 06:48:10 ago (+0/-1)

Someone gave an attraction al force a nickname. Oh heavens.

What does time have to do with an attractional force.

Which way in the uni erse is the universal down? How do I calculate that for a scenario given two objects?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearMay 2, 2023 10:54:55 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 0 points 1 yearMay 2, 2023 11:26:33 ago (+0/-0)

Explain yourself and then I will. Just the math bro, just that.

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[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 0 points 1 yearMay 3, 2023 13:49:34 ago (+0/-0)

3 exes do define shapes...

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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:24:42 ago (+1/-0)

We literally can.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:56:03 ago (+2/-2)

The only explanation flat earthers have for gravity is claiming buoyancy through electromagnetism.

If that was the case then every transformer in the electrical grid would either increase or decrease in weight when they are powered, yet nothing like that happens, the weight remains the same.

Care to explain that?

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[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:32:53 ago (+3/-2)

Gravity is the attraction of mass. Mass attracts mass

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[ - ] Wahaha -1 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 18:21:28 ago (+0/-1)

Don't you see it in action with ebb and flow? That's purely caused by gravitational force from the Moon as far as I know.

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[ - ] Wahaha 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 13:40:15 ago (+0/-0)

Doesn't pull upwards, so it wouldn't lift you. Just like wind blowing (usually) doesn't lift you, yet it sets waves in motion.

How do you explain ebb and flow?

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[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:32:09 ago (+1/-0)

What is your explanation of gravity then, if not the typical "buoyancy" claims of the larger flat earth cult

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[ - ] Her0n -1 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 11:28:25 ago (+0/-1)

You may know of it, but you lack the 9th grade understanding to follow it.

You asked for proof, I gave you that and the groundwork and the instructions are there on how to conduct your own experiment. That way you can do the experiment yourself, because flat earthers never accept when someone else shows them anything scientific.

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[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 15:52:24 ago (+3/-3)

There would be horrendous winds that would flatten the mountains and make life impossible for anything but fishes

[ - ] Spaceman84 -1 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:39:24 ago (+1/-2)

You are the shill. This isn’t the real doglegwarrior. Fuck off JIDF.

[ - ] texasblood -3 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 16:46:12 ago (+0/-3)

Kiked brains even defend it.
CD to the maxx

[ - ] bosunmoon -3 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 15:33:56 ago (+0/-3)

It makes perfect sense, I just don't know why.

[ - ] Love240 -4 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 14:59:03 ago (+3/-7)

I tried for a long while to get people to think about these things. It's easier for them to mock, deride and ignore.

It's the only facade of reason that they've got left, the gussied up, dolled up image that has been carefully crafted and curated for them to prefer over reality.

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[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1 yearApr 30, 2023 17:54:10 ago (+1/-0)

My only concern, is that none of us can prove any of it.

Go to Australia. Film star trails around the south pole. Where is the south pole in Flattard Land?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ZMZtq0qfY

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[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 12:42:50 ago (+0/-0)

Lived in australia for a decade. It's nowhere near where the "South Pole" would be on a globe Earth, buddy.

And you know this how?

Care to explain why compasses still point North in the "Southern Hemisphere"?

Learn how magnets work, retard.

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[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 19:48:11 ago (+0/-0)

The south pole of a magnet points to the north pole of another magnet, retard. That's why it doesn't matter what hemisphere you're on, the compass will always point to the north pole.

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[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 21:50:25 ago (+0/-0)

You're so dumb you don't even know how magnets work, flattard. I never got the shot because I used my brain. You never got the shot because you just reflexively thing everything is a lie. So that's why you fall for flattard Earth and can't figure out the most basic mechanics of a magnet.

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[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1 yearApr 30, 2023 22:25:58 ago (+1/-1)

Apparently over Australia. All I'm saying is that if your assertion is that these swirlies could not exist in a land which you claim does not exist... that does not read like sound logic.

You're going to have to use your brain the tiniest bit if you want to distinguish the shape of the Earth. I'm comparing two models, one which is backed up by reality, and the other that only exists in the fevered mind of flattards. It's perfectly logical to show how the flattard model does not account for a southern pole with star trails, but is trivially accounted for in a spherical Earth model.

I am aware of Notion A where they would exist using the south pole, but notion b of flattard is misrepresented here, it could exist in both scenarios.

Not without some ad hoc explanation. The answers I've gotten so far from flattards are a denial of basic reality or a dome-within-dome gibberish explanation in a linked video that does not correspond to what we see on planet Earth.

You can continue making excuses for them, but if you insist it could exist in the flattard model, then show how.

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[ - ] chrimony -1 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 03:18:01 ago (+0/-1)

You specifically did not compare two models

Yes, I did. The flattard model versus the spherical model. I don't spell out what the flattard model is, just like I don't spell out what the spherical model is, because the basic idea is already known by participants.

The stair trails you posted could theoretically exist in any model and there would then have to be found some explanation.

That's what the challenge is to flattards, you absolute fucking moron. If vast amounts of evidence trivially corresponds to a sphere, but requires some ad hoc explanation in another model, the other model is shit and does not correspond to reality.

I could adopt the flattard flag right now

You might as well, given your displayed level of thinking.

and claim that those spiralies are all over the infinite plane and we can see then in different places(2 from our pov, the locations called/claimed to be "poles").

Yes, you could offer that ad hoc explanation, but then I'd ask you to offer evidence they are "all over". I'd point out they are trivially explained by the spherical model. And I'd point out that as you move along the surface of the Earth, the sky above appears to rotate and wrap back around itself, so where are these other "spiralies" hiding?

The way the stars appear to rotate as you move along the surface of the Earth again trivially corresponds to a sphere, but makes no sense in your "infinite plane" Flattard Land. And now you're left with something else to explain.

Practicing science does not require belief. It requires repeatable results.

Which we do not get from flattards, but we do get them from "Big Globe". If you want to travel the seas without GPS, you use the spherical Earth model. If you want to know the sunrise and sunset times for any location on Earth, you use the spherical Earth model. If you want to know what stars will be above for any time and location on Earth, you use the spherical Earth model. If you want to know when and where the next solar eclipse will be, you use the spherical Earth model.

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[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 21:48:01 ago (+0/-0)

my lack of evidence does not make your observation true.

The evidence that trivially corresponds to a spherical Earth makes that model true. The same evidence that doesn't fit with a flattard model makes that model not true. Trying to hide in the shadows of ignorance is the mark of a coward.

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[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1 yearMay 1, 2023 12:41:27 ago (+0/-0)

And what, pray tell is the "flat tard model" that you keep arguing against?

A model where the Earth is flat instead of a sphere.

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