When I am not working, I am drinking. A day off is more often than not met with an empty bottle. In the past 2 years I have grown from averaging a half bottle to an entire bottle per day. This doesn't make me feel drunk anymore, I just drink. Whiskey has never caused failure to function in work or already established social life. I have come to believe that drinking has drowned the passion in my heart. I am only 21 and yet am void of all ambition. I work hard labor in the day and drink at night. I rarely cast my mind further than the next bottle. My true fear is that I will never be able to care enough about this to even try and change. I feel completely complacent with this life and yet I know that I shouldn't. I rarely care to make understanding to this. Having said these things I will also say that it makes me realize I shouldn't drink anymore. It has never seemed like an addiction I can't control, and I still don't think it is. If only to prove something to myself I will go dry for the next month and let you fine lads know if I like the results
When your life doesn't have any meaning then drinking looks damned attractive.
You're 21. You should be so full of purpose that you can't stand still. You're not alone, of course, so don't think that I'm singling you out. But that doesn't mean that there can't be more. I can say with conviction though that sitting at home with a bottle is not it.
Go. On an adventure. Cut your ties and live close to the edge, and hope it doesn't kill you. But even if that did happen is it really any worse than looking forward to a lifetime of being drunk every moment that you're not working?
It's called, "Kindling". The brain is adapting to the conditioning of on-again, off-again binging, and not in a good way. This is how you end up with DT's and strokes.
One of my close friends drank like that then one day he grabbed his side screaming. He was rushed to a hospital and immediately put on life support because there was a black blank space where his pancreas and liver used to be. I scattered his ashes in his horse field like he asked. The last time I seen him he was chugging Vodka.
Yep. I fell in love with a man who died from alcoholism. I couldn’t stand by his side anymore because it was too painful to watch and I was tired of the lies. He reached out two weeks before he died and said, “I need you.” I wished him the best. The next thing I knew, his sister called me, saying he left a letter on his fridge asking to call me (and others) when his body was found. He went out Leaving Las Vegas style. I’ve been completely skeeved out by alcohol ever since and haven’t had more than two drinks whenever I’ve partaken.
Drinking is fun because it makes you feel better and the horrible world around you more tolerable. If there weren't so many shitty side effects the next day you wake up I'd drink every day.
most important (I think) if you drink like this, don't try cold turkey.
If you drink like this you may sometimes have hangovers (swollen face (binge), red eyes, unease). you may hit DTs. my experience has been fuckin terrible. no real hallucinations and no seizures I know of. every other symptom I have been through. "confusion" for me is weird thoughts that are cyclic. hard to explain. a general feeling of unease, can't sit still and fighting the "I need to go to the hospital" feeling. anxious, unwell, hot / cold swings, a feeling of a buzzing or tremor in the diaphragm, gastric problems, sweats, restlessness, depression, can't sleep.
alcohol is a demon. when you cut it off it's doing to put you through hell. it's 1 of 2 substances that withdrawal can kill you. in my experience I just felt it every second. heart pounding, sweating, mentally unwell and the huge feeling something is wrong, inescapably, for what seems like multiple times a second.
la_chupacabra is probably spot on. you may hit high and low swings as you taper.
My advice. be disciplined. think of it like a wave. if you hit bad depths in the wave you'll likely over compensate and may dip lower or less low, that might encourage you to drink more because "I feel fine."
reach out man. whatever and whoever. it's tough going alone.
like I said I reached out and I am sympathetic. been through enough of my own struggles, you're too young for this to rule your life. if you don't change its likely it will.
I was drinking 3-5 liters of 92 proof plus beer. a 1.75 wouldn't last a week, more like 2-3 days.
being sober isn't hard. deciding to be sober is hard. and like many other things, your decisions can carry a lot of weight and potentially suffering. quitting alcohol was rough. no seizures for me. just a fuck ton of unpleasant shit.
Don't just go dry, Go White. For the next month - Be the Whitest White guy you can be.
Clean yourself up. - Get a haircut, new jeans, nice shirt. Work out every day. Eat well - Steak and potatoes, milk. Clean up your home - Inside and out. Wash your sheets. Clean your truck - Inside and out. Do some preventative maintenance. Fix everything that needs fixing, adjust everything that needs adjusting, clean everything that needs cleaning.
Don't just go dry and sit on your ass for a month. Instead, be the Whitest White guy you can for a month.
Anyone who needs motivation, direction, and purpose - This the first step is a simple one - Be the Whitest White guy you can be.
When I worked construction I too drank every day. We worked hard and played hard. Then one day I realized that I could not remember the last time I had not gone a full day without a beer.
Army, drank lots of booze and beer. Got out and worked construction: boss bought the beer. I drank every day and they made me a foreman anyway. It wasn't a negative. Went to college, bought cheaper beer as it was my own money, but bought it none the less. At the time I realized that I could not remember the last time I had not gone a full day without a beer, I knew I needed to stop. Bet my brother $100 I could go a year with out a drink. That was a shitload of $cratch at the time. The first 3 -4 days I shook uncontrollably. I was in my mid 20s and I thought much too young to be an alcoholic. But I was and the shaking and DT's proved it. At the end of the year, beer did not taste as good to me and I didn't go back.
I realize that I am an alcoholic now, but I have it under control. Mostly. Try not to drink 2 days in a row. Some folks must stay off it 100% or they sink back into the pit. For me, I feel have control. When I am on a day off and want a drink, I'll keep a glass of water handy and just say "make it through today". And I do.
You have done the hardest part, which is to come to the realization. You know what you need to do now. Good luck brother!
I’ve been sober just over two weeks. I’m thirty. The sooner you get off the bottle as a crutch in life, the better. I’ve been going to the gym M-F in the morning instead. I haven’t felt this sore from working out in years. Trust me bud, figure something else out, the bottle is a facade. Maybe you can do it socially later, but for now, work on getting stronger and reading more books. Start with books you enjoy, and then throw in some non-fiction too.
At your age it might feel like you're invincible and that will never change, but booze absolutely will rot your body and mind. It never fails at that. That's all it ever really does for anyone. If you're starting out sharp minded and ripped, it will only make the contrast that much stronger.
In the long run, every drunk ends up soaked in shame, while nobody truly regrets staying sober.
You're not saying what size bottle, but several have pointed out you shouldn't abruptly stop when drinking that much, because people die from that.
If you have a doctor you trust, talk to them about ramping down without dying. Or do a search to see how long your ramp-down period should be to avoid critical damage. Couple weeks or a month? Find out before you damage your organs beyond repair.
Whatever you do, don't completely stop. Wind down to a bottle a week, then maybe a bottle a month. Look into Amy Winehouse's death and see what you may want to look out for.
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1 yearApr 19, 2023 10:39:22 ago (+1/-0)
It's not detrimental if one hasn't crossed over to physically depend on the substance. By no means am I trying to discourage cold turkey if it works; some bodies can't handle the sudden stop.
Your post is either a cry for help or a suicide letter. I hope the former. What would Hitler think of you? You can't stop drinking for a month, impossible. You need direct, personal support, not anonymous assholes on here.
[ - ] edmundo 1 point 1 yearApr 19, 2023 08:48:44 ago (+1/-0)
Dude - if you came to this conclusion it's already a good start. You have a whole life ahead of you, don't waste it on drinking. I'm sure you can find plenty of great ways to spend your time without (or just with less) alcohol. It's tough but I wish you luck. If you want to talk about this (or write) you can always share your opinions here or even through a private message, I will for sure respond.
I hear they have medications now to help with the cravings and to reduce pleasure derived from drinking, which can help de-condition your brain. Haven't taken them, myself, and I'm loathe to deal with anything involving Big Pharma, but if it's something you think can help you, then definitely look into it.
We must be small. When you are at work, take the first task of the day, try and do it with great love. Don't worry about the drinking till you can carry out the first task with great love
Good luck. Unsolicited advice - turn off all media including these sites. Go outside more. Your feeling of not being able to do anything could be a cause of helplessness.
Been there. My last week of drinking I had 12 bottles of wine and 5th of coconut rum and a 5th of skyy. I would stop at 5am, vomit in the shower and then go to work. Start again at 5pm.
You need to find a reason to live. It might be a woman, or a family, or a dog, hobby, anything. Just find one.
I got a dog, then a wife.
Be nice to yourself for a while. Instead of drinking, go buy the most expensive smoothie or blended coffee or whatever you want. Really treat yourself and enjoy it. After a while, you won't need to but find a stand in. Don't do soft drinks or if you do, make sure you don't keep drinking them. Those will kill you too.
First you count the minutes, then hours. 24 hours. 72 hours is a big accomplishment. Then 6 days, then 10. 1 month, then 3 months. 1 year, 3 years. Join AA if you need to.
I am coming up on 11 years dry I think. I still want a drink and always will, but I won't let the beast out of the cage.
[ + ] pickingrinninspittin
[ - ] pickingrinninspittin 11 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 20:45:50 ago (+11/-0)
You're 21. You should be so full of purpose that you can't stand still. You're not alone, of course, so don't think that I'm singling you out. But that doesn't mean that there can't be more. I can say with conviction though that sitting at home with a bottle is not it.
Go. On an adventure. Cut your ties and live close to the edge, and hope it doesn't kill you. But even if that did happen is it really any worse than looking forward to a lifetime of being drunk every moment that you're not working?
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 9 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 20:41:20 ago (+9/-0)
[ + ] Gigglestick
[ - ] Gigglestick 7 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 21:37:39 ago (+7/-0)
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons 3 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 21:46:18 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] La_Chalupacabra
[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 3 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 23:38:50 ago (+3/-0)
The brain is adapting to the conditioning of on-again, off-again binging, and not in a good way.
This is how you end up with DT's and strokes.
[ + ] Rowdybme
[ - ] Rowdybme 0 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 03:17:25 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic
[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 8 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 23:03:29 ago (+8/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat 8 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 00:10:50 ago (+8/-0)*
[ + ] SignedUp
[ - ] SignedUp 6 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 20:37:12 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 3 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 09:05:53 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] ToNigIsToNog
[ - ] ToNigIsToNog 5 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 00:04:13 ago (+5/-0)
most important (I think) if you drink like this, don't try cold turkey.
If you drink like this you may sometimes have hangovers (swollen face (binge), red eyes, unease). you may hit DTs. my experience has been fuckin terrible. no real hallucinations and no seizures I know of. every other symptom I have been through. "confusion" for me is weird thoughts that are cyclic. hard to explain. a general feeling of unease, can't sit still and fighting the "I need to go to the hospital" feeling. anxious, unwell, hot / cold swings, a feeling of a buzzing or tremor in the diaphragm, gastric problems, sweats, restlessness, depression, can't sleep.
alcohol is a demon. when you cut it off it's doing to put you through hell. it's 1 of 2 substances that withdrawal can kill you. in my experience I just felt it every second. heart pounding, sweating, mentally unwell and the huge feeling something is wrong, inescapably, for what seems like multiple times a second.
la_chupacabra is probably spot on. you may hit high and low swings as you taper.
My advice. be disciplined. think of it like a wave. if you hit bad depths in the wave you'll likely over compensate and may dip lower or less low, that might encourage you to drink more because "I feel fine."
reach out man. whatever and whoever. it's tough going alone.
like I said I reached out and I am sympathetic. been through enough of my own struggles, you're too young for this to rule your life. if you don't change its likely it will.
be well brother.
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 11:12:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ToNigIsToNog
[ - ] ToNigIsToNog 0 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 21:06:03 ago (+0/-0)
being sober isn't hard. deciding to be sober is hard. and like many other things, your decisions can carry a lot of weight and potentially suffering. quitting alcohol was rough. no seizures for me. just a fuck ton of unpleasant shit.
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 4 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 01:53:11 ago (+4/-0)
For the next month - Be the Whitest White guy you can be.
Clean yourself up. - Get a haircut, new jeans, nice shirt.
Work out every day.
Eat well - Steak and potatoes, milk.
Clean up your home - Inside and out. Wash your sheets.
Clean your truck - Inside and out. Do some preventative maintenance.
Fix everything that needs fixing, adjust everything that needs adjusting, clean everything that needs cleaning.
Don't just go dry and sit on your ass for a month.
Instead, be the Whitest White guy you can for a month.
Anyone who needs motivation, direction, and purpose - This the first step is a simple one - Be the Whitest White guy you can be.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 4 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 23:25:50 ago (+4/-0)*
Army, drank lots of booze and beer. Got out and worked construction: boss bought the beer. I drank every day and they made me a foreman anyway. It wasn't a negative. Went to college, bought cheaper beer as it was my own money, but bought it none the less. At the time I realized that I could not remember the last time I had not gone a full day without a beer, I knew I needed to stop. Bet my brother $100 I could go a year with out a drink. That was a shitload of $cratch at the time. The first 3 -4 days I shook uncontrollably. I was in my mid 20s and I thought much too young to be an alcoholic. But I was and the shaking and DT's proved it. At the end of the year, beer did not taste as good to me and I didn't go back.
I realize that I am an alcoholic now, but I have it under control. Mostly. Try not to drink 2 days in a row. Some folks must stay off it 100% or they sink back into the pit. For me, I feel have control. When I am on a day off and want a drink, I'll keep a glass of water handy and just say "make it through today". And I do.
You have done the hardest part, which is to come to the realization. You know what you need to do now. Good luck brother!
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas -1 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 10:20:26 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 4 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 21:40:26 ago (+5/-1)
[ + ] Gigglestick
[ - ] Gigglestick 4 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 21:37:04 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] velocityraptor
[ - ] velocityraptor [op] 1 point 1 yearApr 18, 2023 21:43:09 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons 6 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 21:58:21 ago (+6/-0)
In the long run, every drunk ends up soaked in shame, while nobody truly regrets staying sober.
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 22:46:44 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] MasterAce
[ - ] MasterAce 4 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 20:18:52 ago (+4/-0)
Get a hobby stay busy ,you’re young and it’s just to avert boredom.
Atleast you work labour.
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 10:17:41 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 3 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 22:50:46 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] bosunmoon
[ - ] bosunmoon 3 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 20:13:21 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 2 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 03:57:41 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 2 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 00:32:32 ago (+2/-0)
If you have a doctor you trust, talk to them about ramping down without dying. Or do a search to see how long your ramp-down period should be to avoid critical damage. Couple weeks or a month? Find out before you damage your organs beyond repair.
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 21:13:47 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 1 point 1 yearApr 19, 2023 10:21:25 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1 yearApr 19, 2023 10:39:22 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] ButtToucha9000
[ - ] ButtToucha9000 2 points 1 yearApr 18, 2023 20:22:35 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Special_Prosecutor
[ - ] Special_Prosecutor 1 point 1 yearApr 19, 2023 10:53:22 ago (+1/-0)
What would Hitler think of you?
You can't stop drinking for a month, impossible. You need direct, personal support, not anonymous assholes on here.
[ + ] edmundo
[ - ] edmundo 1 point 1 yearApr 19, 2023 08:48:44 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] boekanier
[ - ] boekanier 1 point 1 yearApr 19, 2023 08:14:38 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] con77
[ - ] con77 1 point 1 yearApr 19, 2023 02:55:46 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Cantaloupe
[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 1 yearApr 19, 2023 00:10:17 ago (+1/-0)*
https://globalforum.diaglobal.org/issue/april-2018/filling-the-jar-lesson-in-time-management/
Also as a guide to what you should grab a free download for 7 habits of the highly successful
https://fb2bookfree.com/business/741-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people.html
Keep a journal make goals
Find what energizes you
https://passion.io/blog/how-to-find-your-passion
Find some easy work. Walking dogs, cleaning gutters, etc. Something where you have direct customers. You'll make more money that way.
You want as much well used free time as you can. Maybe get a split and rent out half etc.
[ + ] La_Chalupacabra
[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 1 point 1 yearApr 18, 2023 23:46:27 ago (+1/-0)
Haven't taken them, myself, and I'm loathe to deal with anything involving Big Pharma, but if it's something you think can help you, then definitely look into it.
[ + ] Scruffy_Nerfherder
[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder 1 point 1 yearApr 18, 2023 22:58:52 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] OoklaTheMok
[ - ] OoklaTheMok 1 point 1 yearApr 18, 2023 20:44:19 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] SteppingRazor
[ - ] SteppingRazor 0 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 10:36:07 ago (+0/-0)
Your feeling of not being able to do anything could be a cause of helplessness.
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 10:15:10 ago (+0/-0)
You need to find a reason to live. It might be a woman, or a family, or a dog, hobby, anything. Just find one.
I got a dog, then a wife.
Be nice to yourself for a while. Instead of drinking, go buy the most expensive smoothie or blended coffee or whatever you want. Really treat yourself and enjoy it. After a while, you won't need to but find a stand in. Don't do soft drinks or if you do, make sure you don't keep drinking them. Those will kill you too.
First you count the minutes, then hours. 24 hours. 72 hours is a big accomplishment. Then 6 days, then 10. 1 month, then 3 months. 1 year, 3 years. Join AA if you need to.
I am coming up on 11 years dry I think. I still want a drink and always will, but I won't let the beast out of the cage.
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 02:24:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood -2 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 05:45:18 ago (+0/-2)
When it returns, it will.
It will be 7-10 times worse before you realize it