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Some Questions Someone Asked Me Regarding The Creation and Purpose Of The Übermensch.

submitted by Master_Foo to PaganFarmRemembers 1 yearApr 18, 2023 01:21:58 ago (+4/-1)     (PaganFarmRemembers)

Question:
How do you think the white race could last homogeneous in our own lands over time, without succumbing to ideological division?
Its obvious that a people need a myth, like paganism maybe, but we had that and it wasn’t nearly cohesive enough to repel foreign ideologies.
It seems as though our history is our people taking for granted the racial homogeneity we had, and were just primed to be corrupted by outside ideals.
Would you simply advocate a “fill the void before someone else does” approach to the spiritual man, or some mix of state ideology?

Reply:
Dr. Richard Dawkins was the one that came up with the concept of the "meme".
But, he wasn't talking about "rare Pepes". He was talking about ideas which propagate as if there are biological entities with genetic properties.

That's what Christianity is. It's a mind virus. And the reason it was able to spread through White populations is because we didn't have an immunity to it at the time.

Pagans use their gods like we use tools. If this tool works for this then use it for this. If that tool is good for that then use it for that. Polytheism works like someone with a whole workshop full of tools. Whatever problem he has, he probably has a God to fix that problem.

But, what happens when you have a class of people who aren't part of the "problem solving class"? What happens when you have a group of people who "just need to shut up and be told what to do by the problem solving class"?
These people are called "slaves" and they don't need all those gods. What they need is to be controlled. So, really they only need one god who's function is to control slaves.

That's how you get Abrahamic religions. Throughout history the Abrahamic peoples have traditionally been an occupied member of the region's hegemonic power. If they weren't literally slaves, they were still at the mercy of whatever regional super power was in charge at the time.

So, you get a philosophy (meme) which naturally keeps Abrahamic people's as slaves. Because, the people (genes) who rebel, die. And their rebel philosophy (meme) dies with their genes. And the "good slaves" (gene) survive and their "good slave" philosophy (meme) survive with them.

And, thus, you have a selective process by which slaves and genes evolve to create perfect slave genes and perfect slave memes.

And this slave morality has a positive reinforcement feedback loop built in to it which acts as an immune system against other memes replacing it (other religions/philosophy), or against just dropping it altogether (atheism).

This immune system acts like "Good slaves are good. Bad free men are bad. So, don't be bad like the free men because rebels get killed. Be good like the slave who survives".
Likewise, there are punishments for people who are "bad slaves". Like cancellation. Or, threats that everything you've worked for so far will be taken away from you like "heaven" and "hell".

Neitzsche recognized this. He identified two problems.
1. Slave morality keeps slaves in slavery.
2. Non-Slaves kill their gods and are therefore susceptible to Nihilism (regression to slavery) because they lack purpose.

So, Abrahamic religions are VERY effective at keeping people in a slave mentality.
Atheists, will devolve into another form of slavery called Nihilism.

The antidote to Nihilism (regression to slave morality) is the Übermensch. And that's an entire concept unto itself. But, the Übermensch has an immune system built into his philosophy which can fight off Abrahamist memes.

To grok these concepts read:
1. The Genealogy of Morality.
2. Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
3. The Selfish Gene.
4. The Undiscovered Self.

Answer To Questions
How do you think the white race could last homogeneous in our own lands over time, without succumbing to ideological division?
The division already exists.
The path forward is to recognize that you can't save everyone, especially the slaves. The best thing to do is to identify who is ready to create a future race of Übermensch and don't allow the slaves to infiltrate.

Its obvious that a people need a myth, like paganism maybe, but we had that and it wasn’t nearly cohesive enough to repel foreign ideologies.
Christianity has rotted our brains into thinking Mythology is something that happened in the past.
The "new" way of thinking is thinking about how the people who invented the myths thought about myths.
They weren't reading some unchanging story in the Bible. They were making up stories to tell everyone around the fire pit as entertainment.
There's no reason why we can't do the same thing. The stories exist because they served a purpose at some time. So, all we need to do is make new stories which are useful to us in the same way (memes).

Homer probably made a lot of shit up when he wrote down "The Illiad". Before it was written down, the myths were "fluid" and were adapted to whatever purpose the story needed to fill. The act of writing it down stopped this.

It seems as though our history is our people taking for granted the racial homogeneity we had, and were just primed to be corrupted by outside ideals.
Yes, this is why the Jews spread Christianity.

Would you simply advocate a “fill the void before someone else does” approach to the spiritual man, or some mix of state ideology?
A "state" ideology is backwards. Because if we are to create an Ethno-State, the purpose of that state is to serve the race's progression toward creating the Übermensch and that's the limit of it's power. A bureaucracy is the death of the Übermensch, because the Übermensch is supposed to be able to survive without bureaucracy and thus that is the environment the Übermensch must be forged in.


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[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 02:11:46 ago (+0/-0)

the Übermensch is supposed to be able to survive without bureaucracy

I havnt read into Nietzsche Übermensch, but there appears to be an interesting contrast here between it and communism, in the same way you say polytheism is meant to serve you vs monotheism demanding to be served. on somet

Communism is utter subservience to the state on the promise of utopia, which is ridiculous.
Vs an autonomous race based Übermensch that’s totally believable when you see how whites have been able to maintain wide spread non violent village culture for 1000s of years with the ability to produce culture and industrial zones that don’t immediately come at the detriment of all other culture.

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 1 yearApr 19, 2023 01:19:12 ago (+0/-0)

The "new" way of thinking is thinking about how the people who invented the myths thought about myths

Exactly!
I’m always surprised when people assume Greek mythology was understood unanimously as literal history and characters, like people do with the Bible and Quran etc now.
Even as a kid it was obvious to me those stories were a way to pass down higher order morals and concepts through time.
In this way it’s almost as if Stoicism purpose is as an ethos, the same way memes serve as a mythos.
They’re ways to sustain and pass down higher order thought through time, but serve the present as long as you know their purpose and that they’re not meant to thought of only literal or for the present.
As soon as you lose sight of the fact they’re created to serve you, people take them literally and create religion (slavery) out of it.
Inverting the natural order from “as the man, so the faith” , to lower order “as the faith, so the man”.